[Az-Geocaching] Mad Park Ranger

[Trisha]

Thank you Brian, Steve, Larry, Dan....that clarified the question and
left me more confused than ever at the same time! Typical government
stuff!!!
Guess I'll stick to the National Forest...so far...so good...
Trisha


On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:53:26 -0400, "Koch, Dan" wrote:

> 
> Don't forget that the NPS isn't the only agency responsible for
> managing
> National Parks.  The Ironwood Forest National Monument is one
'National
> Park' managed by BLM.  Others are Parashant NM, Sonoran Desert NM,
> Agua Fria
> NM and Vermilion Cliffs NM...and these are just the Arizona ones.
> 
> http://www.az.blm.gov:80/natmon5.htm
> 
> Now...the question is whether BLM policies or NPS policies will
> prevail in
> those areas.  Take a look at some of these areas and you'll see that
> there
> are caches in every one of them.
> 
> The names "National Park", "National Monument", "National Historic
> Site"
> etc. seem to be more of an 'internal' label that the government uses
to
> classify the different locations.  I had heard one time, from an NPS
> employee, that it depends on how the park was created.  If Congress
> creates
> it, it is one category, if the President creates it (like the above
> mentioned BLM NMs), it is a different category.  Personally, I'm not
> so sure
> of that because I know parks change designations.
> 
> And, this gives me a chance to plug my travelbug, National Park
> Passport
> (http://www.geocaching.com/track/details.aspx?id=5406), which has
just
> resurfaced after being missing for nearly two years!!
> 
> LazyK - Dan
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com 
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Team Tierra Buena
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:56 AM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Mad Park Ranger
> > 
> > 
> > > Is a "National Monument" exactly the same as a "National Park"?
> 
> > It's not the designation that matters, it's the responsible land
> > management agency. Coronado National Memorial is managed by 
> > NPS, and as
> > such is off-limits to physical caches.
> > Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge is managed by the US Fish
and
> > Wildlife Service (USFWS). At the time the "El Camino del Diablo
> Strike
> > Force" hit the caches there, the USFWS had no policy on Geocaching.
> As
> > of November, 2003, they banned Geocaching on USFWS lands as well.
> > Not all of the caches along El Camino del Diablo were within 
> > the Refuge
> > boundary, either. Those outside the Refuge were on the 
> > Goldwater Gunnery
> > Range, which is jointly managed by BLM and the military. Caches
> there,
> > to the best of my knowledge, are still not subject to anything
other
> > than the standard BLM policy, which does permit caching with
certain
> > restrictions.
> > Steve
> > Team Tierra Buena 
> > 
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