[Az-Geocaching] Another Lie about Nasa..
EvilFISH
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maybe why no one has found it in like 8 months
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From: Brian Casteel=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another Lie about Nasa..
Nobody said one couldn't bring their own talking stick. :) The only =
downside is the rest of the contents would get wet, and the paper might =
fall apart if it isn't the kind that you can write on when wet.
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: EvilFISH=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another Lie about Nasa..
pencil already there sorry
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Brian Casteel=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another Lie about Nasa..
You could use it to log the underwater cache (I think it's Minus =
30) by Team Evil Fish. :)
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: HumNummaHumma=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another Lie about Nasa..
Yeah, I actually bought one of those space pens a few years =
back. They're really cool when you need to write on vertical surfaces or =
upside down. I never got to experiment with its claim that it could =
write underwater as well. Not sure when I would need that feature?
Eventually, the pressure in the pen started gushing the ink out, =
so I would have a general mess every time I used it. Fischer was nice =
enough to send me a free replacement, but the same thing happened with =
that pen after six months. I have since lost it and haven't replaced it.
Pretty cool pen, though.
-Brent
ShadowAce <hunting@shakabruddah.com> wrote:
TEF writes:
I was told this story as a kid by my neighbor who was for the =
most part
correct with his stories
When NASA was given the task of what the astronauts would =
write with in
space, spent millions of dollars to come up with the ball =
point pen. While
in Russia given the same question replied was ah we'll use a =
pencil.
---------------------------------------
Now we get to see why it is so funny to sit and listen to some =
people.
---------------------------------------
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp
Fisher did ultimately develop a pressurized pen for use by =
NASA astronauts
(now known as the famous "Fisher Space Pen"), but both =
American and Soviet
space missions initially used pencils, NASA did not seek out =
Fisher and ask
them to develop a "space pen," Fisher did not charge NASA for =
the cost of
developing the pen, and the Fisher pen was eventually used by =
both American
and Soviet astronauts.
Here's how Fisher themselves described it:
NASA never asked Paul C. Fisher to produce a pen. When the =
astronauts began
to fly, like the Russians, they used pencils, but the leads =
sometimes broke
and became a hazard by floating in the [capsule's] atmosphere =
where there
was no gravity. They could float into an eye or nose or cause =
a short in an
electrical device. In addition, both the lead and the wood of =
the pencil
could burn rapidly in the pure oxygen atmosphere. Paul Fisher =
realized the
astronauts needed a safer and more dependable writing =
instrument, so in July
1965 he developed the pressurized ball pen, with its ink =
enclosed in a
sealed, pressurized ink cartridge. Fisher sent the first =
samples to Dr.
Robert Gilruth, Director of the Houston Space Center. The pens =
were all
metal except for the ink, which had a flash point abo! ve =
200=B0C. The sample
Space Pens were thoroughly tested by NASA. They passed all the =
tests and
have been used ever since on all manned space flights, =
American and Russian.
All research and developement costs were paid by Paul Fisher. =
No development
costs have ever been charged to the government.
Because of the fire in Apollo 1, in which three Astronauts =
died, NASA
required a writing instrument that would not burn in a 100% =
oxygen
atmosphere. It also had to work in the extreme conditions of =
outer space:
In a vacuum.
With no gravity.
In hot temperatures of +150=B0C in sunlight and also in the =
cold shadows of
space where the temperatures drop to -120=B0C
(NASA tested the pressurized Space Pens at -50=B0C, but =
because of the
residential [sic] heat in the pen it also writes for many =
minutes in the
cold shadows.)
Fisher spent over one million dollars in trying to perfect the =
ball point
pen before he made his first successful pressurized! pens in =
1965. Samples
were immediately sent to Dr. Robert Gilruth, Manager of the =
Houston Space
Center, where they were thoroughly tested and approved for use =
in Space in
September 1965. In December 1967 he sold 400 Fisher Space Pens =
to NASA for
$2.95 each.
Lead pencils were used on all Mercury and Gemini space flights =
and all
Russian space flights prior to 1968. Fisher Space Pens are =
more dependable
than lead pencils and cannot create the hazard of a broken =
piece of lead
floating through the gravity-less atmosphere.
Sightings: This legend was mentioned in an episode of NBC's =
The West Wing
TV series ("We Killed Yamamoto"; original air date 15 May =
2002).
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>maybe why no one has found it in like 8 =
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Another Lie=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nobody said one couldn't bring their =
own talking=20
stick. :) The only downside is the rest of the contents =
would get=20
wet, and the paper might fall apart if it isn't the kind that you can =
write on=20
when wet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pencil already there =
sorry</FONT></DIV>
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[Az-Geocaching] Another=20
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You could use it to log the =
underwater cache=20
(I think it's Minus 30) by Team Evil Fish. :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September =
11, 2004=20
3:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
Another Lie about Nasa..</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Yeah, I actually bought one of those space pens a few years =
back.=20
They're really cool when you need to write on vertical surfaces =
or=20
upside down. I never got to experiment with its claim that it =
could=20
write underwater as well. Not sure when I would need that =
feature?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Eventually, the pressure in the pen started gushing the ink =
out, so=20
I would have a general mess every time I used it. Fischer was =
nice=20
enough to send me a free replacement, but the same thing =
happened=20
with that pen after six months. I have since lost it and haven't =
replaced it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Pretty cool pen, though.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-Brent</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>ShadowAce =
<hunting@shakabruddah.com></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: =
#1010ff 2px solid">TEF=20
writes:<BR>I was told this story as a kid by my neighbor who =
was for=20
the most part<BR>correct with his stories<BR><BR>When NASA was =
given=20
the task of what the astronauts would write with in<BR>space, =
spent=20
millions of dollars to come up with the ball point pen. =
While<BR>in=20
Russia given the same question replied was ah we'll use a=20
=
pencil.<BR><BR>---------------------------------------<BR><BR>Now we=20
get to see why it is so funny to sit and listen to some=20
=
people.<BR>---------------------------------------<BR><BR>http://www.snop=
es.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp<BR><BR><BR>Fisher=20
did ultimately develop a pressurized pen for use by NASA=20
astronauts<BR>(now known as the famous "Fisher Space Pen"), =
but both=20
American and Soviet<BR>space missions initially used pencils, =
NASA did=20
not seek out Fisher and ask<BR>them to develop a "space pen," =
Fisher=20
did not charge NASA for the cost of<BR>developing the pen, and =
the=20
Fisher pen was eventually used by both American<BR>and Soviet=20
astronauts.<BR><BR>Here's how Fisher themselves described=20
it:<BR><BR>NASA never asked Paul C. Fisher to produce a pen. =
When the=20
astronauts began<BR>to fly, like the Russians, they used =
pencils, but=20
the leads sometimes broke<BR>and became a hazard by floating =
in the=20
[capsule's] atmosphere where there<BR>was no gravity. They =
could float=20
into an eye or nose or cause a short in an<BR>electrical =
device. In=20
addition, both the lead and the wood of the pencil<BR>could =
burn=20
rapidly in the pure oxygen atmosphere. Paul Fisher realized=20
the<BR>astronauts needed a safer and more dependable writing=20
instrument, so in July<BR>1965 he developed the pressurized =
ball pen,=20
with its ink enclosed in a<BR>sealed, pressurized ink =
cartridge.=20
Fisher sent the first samples to Dr.<BR>Robert Gilruth, =
Director of=20
the Houston Space Center. The pens were all<BR>metal except =
for the=20
ink, which had a flash point abo! ve 200=B0C. The =
sample<BR>Space Pens=20
were thoroughly tested by NASA. They passed all the tests =
and<BR>have=20
been used ever since on all manned space flights, American and =
Russian.<BR>All research and developement costs were paid by =
Paul=20
Fisher. No development<BR>costs have ever been charged to the=20
government.<BR><BR>Because of the fire in Apollo 1, in which =
three=20
Astronauts died, NASA<BR>required a writing instrument that =
would not=20
burn in a 100% oxygen<BR>atmosphere. It also had to work in =
the=20
extreme conditions of outer space:<BR>In a vacuum.<BR>With no=20
gravity.<BR>In hot temperatures of +150=B0C in sunlight and =
also in the=20
cold shadows of<BR>space where the temperatures drop to=20
-120=B0C<BR>(NASA tested the pressurized Space Pens at =
-50=B0C, but=20
because of the<BR>residential [sic] heat in the pen it also =
writes for=20
many minutes in the<BR>cold shadows.)<BR><BR>Fisher spent over =
one=20
million dollars in trying to perfect the ball point<BR>pen =
before he=20
made his first successful pressurized! pens in 1965. =
Samples<BR>were=20
immediately sent to Dr. Robert Gilruth, Manager of the Houston =
Space<BR>Center, where they were thoroughly tested and =
approved for=20
use in Space in<BR>September 1965. In December 1967 he sold =
400 Fisher=20
Space Pens to NASA for<BR>$2.95 each.<BR><BR>Lead pencils were =
used on=20
all Mercury and Gemini space flights and all<BR>Russian space =
flights=20
prior to 1968. Fisher Space Pens are more dependable<BR>than =
lead=20
pencils and cannot create the hazard of a broken piece of=20
lead<BR>floating through the gravity-less =
atmosphere.<BR>Sightings:=20
This legend was mentioned in an episode of NBC's The West =
Wing<BR>TV=20
series ("We Killed Yamamoto"; original air date 15 May=20
=
2002).<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>___________________________________________=
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