[Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating

Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:53:41 -0700

Would you have time to load the topo onto the GPS between now and 8 p.m.?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GUY ALDRICH" <graldrich@yahoo.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating

: I edited the cache ,gave it a 2 terrain rating!
: --- Andrew Ayre <andy@britishideas.com> wrote:
: > I agree with Trisha. I think it is better to be
: > conservative than
: > misleading.
: > 
: > Andy
: > 
: > 
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
: >
: [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
: > Behalf Of
: > Trisha
: > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:54 PM
: > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
: > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating
: > 
: > 
: > The terrain rating is supposed to be for the
: > toughest part of the
: > approach.
: > 
: > I don't know about a 3, but it is NOT handicapped
: > accessible if the
: > wheelchair bound person can only get to within 50
: > feet.
: > 
: > Why don't you just change it to a 2 or 1.5 and be
: > done with it? There
: > are a handful of physically handicapped (wheelchair,
: > cane/mobility/short of breath) people who cache and
: > can only do "1's".
: > They expect it to be easy enough for wheelchair
: > access.
: > 
: > A 2 or 1.5 won't scare people off, just explain it
: > in the description.
: > 
: > Think about how you would feel if you were sitting
: > in a wheelchair and
: > tried to get your cache. Get it? I'm sure you would
: > feel bad if you
: > unintentionally ruined a handicapped cacher's day by
: > the misleading
: > rating. It's hard enough for some of them to get out
: > at all. Of
: > course, they are probably reading the logs and would
: > realize that the
: > rating is incorrect anyway.
: > 
: > OK, 'nuff said.
: > 
: > take care,
: > Trisha
: > 
: > 
: > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:51 -0700 (PDT), GUY
: > ALDRICH wrote:
: > 
: > >
: > > Your car should do the climbing!Then it's 400 feet
: > of
: > > flat road to within 50 feet of the cache!The last
: > 50
: > > feet is a bushwack but ,it still no climb!So most
: > of
: > > it is a 1,now where the cache sits,it's a 3,
: > uneven
: > > unpaved the point is if I gave it a 3 rating
: > people
: > > would think you have climbing to do!I could do
: > this
: > > one in flipflops,for most other mountain trails I
: > wear
: > > good hiking boots!Now if you don't read the
: > directions
: > > and just bushwack,then it's a tough climb!!
: > >
: > > Guy
: > > --- Trisha <trisha@brasher.com> wrote:
: > > > Hey Guy,
: > > >
: > > > How'rya doin'?
: > > >
: > > > Ahem....(butting in) Did you read Andy's note?
: > > > Clayjar's rating system
: > > > is not required, of course, but it does seem to
: > be
: > > > somewhat of a
: > > > standard being used.
: > > >
: > > > Let's see. 1 = Handicapped ACCESSIBLE, terrain
: > is
: > > > likely to be PAVED,
: > > > is relatively FLAT, and less than 1/2 mile.
: > > >
: > > > 2 = Terrain is generally along marked trails,
: > there
: > > > ARE NO STEEP
: > > > ELEVATION changes or heavy undergrowth, less
: > than 2
: > > > miles.
: > > >
: > > > Hm.
: > > >
: > > > I haven't been to this cache, but from the logs
: > > > (some mention a short
: > > > steep climb) it seems like bumping the terrain
: > > > rating to at least a 2
: > > > might be more accurate and therefore avoid any
: > > > confusion/complaints in
: > > > the future. Pretty easy. Or, if there is a way
: > to
: > > > get within 50 feet
: > > > without the steep climb, maybe a 1.5.
: > > >
: > > > Think. 50 feet might as well be 50 miles when
: > you
: > > > are wheelchair
: > > > bound. "Accessible" logically means someone in a
: > > > wheelchair can
: > > > physically reach out and grab the cache.
: > (/butting
: > > > in)
: > > >
: > > > take care,
: > > > Trisha "Lightning"
: > > > Prescott
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > > > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT), GUY
: > > > ALDRICH wrote:
: > > >
: > > > >
: > > > > Andy IF you go the right way,you can use a
: > > > wheelchair
: > > > > to get within 50 ft of the cache!You must
: > print
: > > > out
: > > > > and follow the cache page directions!
: > > > >
: > > > >
: > > > > --- Andrew Ayre <andy@britishideas.com> wrote:
: > > > > > According to Clayjar's rating system, 1 star
: > for
: > > > > > terrain = wheelchair
: > > > > > accessible. Although the rating system is a
: > > > > > suggestion, was it suitable for
: > > > > > a wheelchair? :)
: > > > > >
: > > > > > Andy
: > > > > >
: > > > > >
: > > > > > -----Original Message-----
: > > > > > From:
: > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
: > > > > >
: > > > >
: > > >
: > >
: >
: [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
: > > > > > Behalf Of
: > > > > > SquishyGecko
: > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:38 PM
: > > > > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
: > > > > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's
: > Surprise
: > > > > > (OUCH!)
: > > > > >
: > > > > >
: > > > > > So on second thought, I decided to run up
: > there
: > > > this
: > > > > > afternoon and grab it.
: > > > > > Just got back from having a cactus
: > surgically
: > > > > > removed from my butt.  Oh
: > > > > > yeah, that's an easy one.  No trail, no
: > parking,
: > > > and
: > > > > > a whole bunch of loose
: > > > > > rocks and jumping cactus.
: > > > > >
: > > > > > As a non-native to Arizona, I'm making the
: > > > following
: > > > > > decrees:
: > > > > >
: > > > > > Never, ever will I again attempt to hike
: > where
: > > > there
: > > > > > is no trail.
: > > > > >
: > > > > > Never, ever will I attempt a non-urban
: > Graldrich
: > > > > > cache.
: > > > > >
: > > > > > Never, ever will I go up on a mountain for a
: > > > "quick
: > 
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