[Az-Geocaching] Geocaching admin archives the plaque

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I dont think it was too harsh at all. I have found many a great headstone or
historical location that I wanted to make a virtual because I knew I could
not drive there in a reasonable time to replace a logbook. Many cachers
created a boatload of virtuals and after the sign has been missing for
months they still dont do anything for the cache because it is _only a
virtual_ and they have no intention of checking it.

I personally found a virtual the other day and had the owner tell me my
answer was wrong. I quoted the plaque and they went to look at it and low
and behold I was correct and the cache owner was incorrect.. Is this and
issue? Depends..

 If the cache owner lived 200 miles away, I doubt they would have diven to
the site and confirmed my answer..

Virtuals have a great place, but as I have been told by admins and agree, if
you cannot maintain a logbook in the area, you most likely cannot maintain a
virtual there either.

If the cache owner would have done the maint that they said they would, the
cache would not have been archived..

The cache can be reactivated when and if the problem with the log is
corrected.

if the cache owner does not care enough, then it should be archived. I have
requested many caches to be archived when they go 6 months with nofinds and
no attempt to fix them.

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Gale
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:12 PM
To: list
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching admin archives the plaque

I have the Original Stash Plaque on my watch list. It was archived today.
Despite the reasons, I think perhaps the admin was a bit meaner than
necessary.

CO Admin archived ORIGINAL STASH TRIBUTE PLAQUE (Unknown (Mystery)
Cache) at 6/26/2004

Log Date: 6/26/2004
This cache has been archived becasue the owner is too far away to
maintain this cache in a reasonable amount of time
Last log book went missing on may 16th. on may 19th you said you would
take care of it. it wasnt untill June 22
"June 22 by ponyryder (6 found)
Thanks to Team 360 sending it to me, a new mini-cache "Altoids"
container with log sheet has been placed at the Tribute Plaque. I hope this
one lasts longer. "
Over a month is way too long to to wait to replace a missing log book.
I recomend that you let this cache be adopted or obtaine a local cacher
to watch it for you. If you already have a local to watch this I
suggest you find someone else that can do a better Job.

Visit this log entry at the below address:
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=79e6975a-5eaf-4e63-97de-bb45f1a
f1a09

Visit GCGV0P
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=a79d6f50-74a6-4c85-b1
8c-86dd8b7313ab

Profile for CO Admin:
http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=65c281ac-f5cb-424e-8de6-c4ed89ecdad3

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I dont =
think it was=20
too harsh at all. I have found many a great headstone or historical =
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that I wanted to make a virtual because I knew I could not drive there =
in a=20
reasonable time to replace a logbook. Many cachers created a boatload of =

virtuals and after the sign has been missing for months they still dont =
do=20
anything for the cache because it is _only a virtual_ and they have no =
intention=20
of checking it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I =
personally found a=20
virtual the other day and had the owner tell me my answer was wrong. I =
quoted=20
the plaque and they went to look at it and low and behold I was correct =
and the=20
cache owner was incorrect.. Is this and issue? =
Depends..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;If the cache=20
owner lived 200 miles away, I doubt they would have diven to the site =
and=20
confirmed my answer..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Virtuals have a=20
great place, but as I have been told by admins and agree, if you cannot =
maintain=20
a logbook in the area, you most likely cannot maintain a virtual there=20
either.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If the =
cache owner=20
would have done the maint that they said they would, the cache would not =
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been archived..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The =
cache can be=20
reactivated when and if the problem with the log is=20
corrected.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if the =
cache owner=20
does not care enough, then it should be archived. I have requested many =
caches=20
to be archived when they go 6 months with nofinds and no attempt to fix=20
them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D659142506-27062004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Gale<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
list<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching admin archives the=20
plaque<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I have the Original Stash Plaque on my watch list. It was archived =
today.=20
Despite the reasons, I think perhaps the admin was a bit meaner than=20
necessary.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>CO Admin archived ORIGINAL STASH TRIBUTE PLAQUE (Unknown =
(Mystery)=20
<BR>Cache) at 6/26/2004<BR><BR>Log Date: 6/26/2004<BR>This cache has =
been=20
archived becasue the owner is too far away to <BR>maintain this cache in =
a=20
reasonable amount of time<BR>Last log book went missing on may 16th. on =
may 19th=20
you said you would <BR>take care of it. it wasnt untill June 22 =
<BR>"June 22 by=20
ponyryder (6 found)<BR>Thanks to Team 360 sending it to me, a new =
mini-cache=20
"Altoids" <BR>container with log sheet has been placed at the Tribute =
Plaque. I=20
hope this <BR>one lasts longer. "<BR>Over a month is way too long to to =
wait to=20
replace a missing log book. <BR>I recomend that you let this cache be =
adopted or=20
obtaine a local cacher <BR>to watch it for you. If you already have a =
local to=20
watch this I <BR>suggest you find someone else that can do a better=20
Job.<BR><BR>Visit this log entry at the below address:<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=3D79e6975a-5eaf-4e63=
-97de-bb45f1af1a09"=20
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eaf-4e63-97de-bb45f1af1a09</FONT></A><BR><BR>Visit=20
GCGV0P<BR><A=20
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-74a6-4c85-b18c-86dd8b7313ab"=20
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a79d6f50-74a6-4c85-b18c-86dd8b7313ab</FONT></A><BR><BR>Profile=20
for CO Admin:<BR><A=20
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24e-8de6-c4ed89ecdad3</FONT></A><BR></DIV>
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