[Az-Geocaching] Help! Can't find graldrich's caches and NOW can't find geoca
RAND HARDIN
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Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:01:55 -0700
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Trisha,
The GC site is probably busy again. Try again later. I read in the GC f=
orums that starting May 1st, "GC.com" will be adding another server to re=
lieve the load.
Rand
----- Original Message -----
From: Trisha
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:31 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Help! Can't find graldrich's caches and NOW =
can't find geocaching.com!!!
Well, I will proudly log a FTNF (First To Not Find) on graldrich's
cache if I could bring up the geocaching site....what's the deal????
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:12:07 -0700 (MST), "Trisha" wrote:
> =20
> I wanted to chime in and say "DITTO" to Andy's response.
> =20
> When placing a cache, I do exactly that kind of physical averaging
> with the GPS (let it settle, move off, come back and settle, etc)
> followed by a quick mental averaging of the readings. I try to take 6
> readings from at least 4 different directions, write them down, and
> then average the readings approximately. So far, using that method,
> the readings of the caches I have hidden have been fairly accurate.
> (With one exception....anyone remember my cache up at Goldwater Lake
> in Prescott? "All That Glitters....". Those coords were at least 60
> feet off due to the messy satellite reception from the trees, but
> luckily it was pretty obvious where the cache was hidden since the
> actual coords left you standing in the middle of a blank area in the
> forest with a pile of branches and trimmings 60 feet away. I moved it
> when I realized that was a slash pile for burning....)
> =20
> I just had a FIRST "FIRST TO NOT FIND" (FTNF) that I am quite proud
> of....graldrich's "Cordes Junction" cache. Good luck finding that
> sucker!!!
> =20
> Trisha "Lightning"
> Prescott
> =20
> =20
> =20
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:45:37 -0700, "Andrew Ayre" wrote:
> =20
> > =20
> > What I do to try and ensure an accurate measurement of where I
> placed a
> > cache, and hasn't failed on me yet:
> > =20
> > Stand at the cache for a couple of minutes allowing the GPS unit to
> > "settle
> > down". Mark a waypoint.
> > Walk away from the cache anywhere from 20ft - 60ft (as far as the
> > vegetation
> > will allow) and walk back to the cache. Wait a moment. Mark a
> > waypoint. I
> > repeat this step three or four times walking away and coming back
> from
> > different directions.
> > I then look at all the waypoints I marked and pick a middle one or
> the
> > consensus (basically a quick mental averaging).
> > =20
> > A cache that has been messed with could be anyone - kids, someone
> with
> > a
> > gps, dog, etc. IMO if you leave a box with stuff in it lying
around,
> > expect
> > it to be messed with at some point. Just rehide it in a better
> > location.
> > =20
> > Andy
> > =20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
> > SquishyGecko
> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 8:36 AM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Help! Inaccurate Coordinates & Missing
Cache
> > =20
> > =20
> > Recently Brian from Team A.I. posted a log entry to Gecko's Urban
> > Adventure
> > in which he wrote that the coordinates were approximately thirty
feet
> > off
> > from what I had posted on the listing. Along with this, yesterday
> > evening I
> > went venturing around checking some of my other caches, and noticed
> > that the
> > coordinates, while close on some, where not so close on others. =20
> Using
> > a
> > Magellan Meridian Gold now, is there any reason at all why this
would
> > be
> > happening, and how do I make it stop happening?
> > =20
> > Also, I located one of my caches with the top hanging open and
> > everything
> > removed yesterday. I recall some discussion about a pirate
stealing
> > from
> > caches, however I thought that individual had been stopped. Anyone
> > have any
> > thoughts on this? For the moment I've removed the cache,
temporarily
> > disabled it, and may put it back later.
> > =20
> > Thanks!
> > =20
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Trisha,</DIV> =
<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The GC site is probably busy again. Try=
again later. I read in the GC forums that starting May 1st, "=
GC.com" will be adding another server to relieve the load.</DIV> <DIV>&nb=
sp;</DIV> <DIV>Rand</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-=
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l Message -----</DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial=
; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Trisha</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"=
><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 23, 2004 3:31 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10=
pt Arial"><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: =
10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] Help! Can't find graldric=
h's caches and NOW can't find geocaching.com!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>We=
ll, I will proudly log a FTNF (First To Not Find) on graldrich's<BR>cache=
if I could bring up the geocaching site....what's the deal????<BR><BR><B=
R><BR>On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:12:07 -0700 (MST), "Trisha" wrote:<BR><BR>&g=
t; <BR>> I wanted to chime in and say "DITTO" to Andy's response.<BR>&=
gt; <BR>> When placing a cache, I do exactly that kind of physical ave=
raging<BR>> with the GPS (let it settle, move off, come back and settl=
e, etc)<BR>> followed by a quick mental averaging of the readings. I t=
ry to take 6<BR>> readings from at least 4 different directions, write=
them down, and<BR>> then average the readings approximately. So far, =
using that method,<BR>> the readings of the caches I have hidden have =
been fairly accurate.<BR>> (With one exception....anyone remember my c=
ache up at Goldwater Lake<BR>> in Prescott? "All That Glitters....". T=
hose coords were at least 60<BR>> feet off due to the messy satellite =
reception from the trees, but<BR>> luckily it was pretty obvious where=
the cache was hidden since the<BR>> actual coords left you standing i=
n the middle of a blank area in the<BR>> forest with a pile of branche=
s and trimmings 60 feet away. I moved it<BR>> when I realized that was=
a slash pile for burning....)<BR>> <BR>> I just had a FIRST "FIRST=
TO NOT FIND" (FTNF) that I am quite proud<BR>> of....graldrich's "Cor=
des Junction" cache. Good luck finding that<BR>> sucker!!!<BR>> <BR=
>> Trisha "Lightning"<BR>> Prescott<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>&=
gt; On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:45:37 -0700, "Andrew Ayre" wrote:<BR>> <BR>=
> > <BR>> > What I do to try and ensure an accurate measureme=
nt of where I<BR>> placed a<BR>> > cache, and hasn't failed on m=
e yet:<BR>> > <BR>> > Stand at the cache for a couple of minu=
tes allowing the GPS unit to<BR>> > "settle<BR>> > down". Mar=
k a waypoint.<BR>> > Walk away from the cache anywhere from 20ft - =
60ft (as far as the<BR>> > vegetation<BR>> > will allow) and =
walk back to the cache. Wait a moment. Mark a<BR>> > waypoint. I<BR=
>> > repeat this step three or four times walking away and coming b=
ack<BR>> from<BR>> > different directions.<BR>> > I then l=
ook at all the waypoints I marked and pick a middle one or<BR>> the<BR=
>> > consensus (basically a quick mental averaging).<BR>> > <=
BR>> > A cache that has been messed with could be anyone - kids, so=
meone<BR>> with<BR>> > a<BR>> > gps, dog, etc. IMO if you =
leave a box with stuff in it lying<BR>around,<BR>> > expect<BR>>=
> it to be messed with at some point. Just rehide it in a better<BR>&=
gt; > location.<BR>> > <BR>> > Andy<BR>> > <BR>> =
> -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: az-geocaching-admin@li=
stserv.azgeocaching.com<BR>> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv=
azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of<BR>> > SquishyGecko<BR>> > Sen=
t: Friday, April 23, 2004 8:36 AM<BR>> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.=
com<BR>> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Help! Inaccurate Coordinates &a=
mp; Missing<BR>Cache<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Recently Br=
ian from Team A.I. posted a log entry to Gecko's Urban<BR>> > Adven=
ture<BR>> > in which he wrote that the coordinates were approximate=
ly thirty<BR>feet<BR>> > off<BR>> > from what I had posted on=
the listing. Along with this, yesterday<BR>> > evening I<BR>=
> > went venturing around checking some of my other caches, and not=
iced<BR>> > that the<BR>> > coordinates, while close on some,=
where not so close on others. <BR>> Using<BR>> > a<BR>> >=
Magellan Meridian Gold now, is there any reason at all why this<BR>would=
<BR>> > be<BR>> > happening, and how do I make it stop happen=
ing?<BR>> > <BR>> > Also, I located one of my caches with the=
top hanging open and<BR>> > everything<BR>> > removed yester=
day. I recall some discussion about a pirate<BR>stealing<BR>> &g=
t; from<BR>> > caches, however I thought that individual had been s=
topped. Anyone<BR>> > have any<BR>> > thoughts on this?=
For the moment I've removed the cache,<BR>temporarily<BR>> >=
disabled it, and may put it back later.<BR>> > <BR>> > Thank=
s!<BR>> > <BR>> > ___________________________________________=
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