[Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics

Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:03:39 -0700

I would prefer to just get them let us contiunue to do business as usual.
They HAD to have made more money on the existance of azgeocaching.com 
than the money they can claim they were loosing if we weren't around, 
not to mention that azgeocaching.com off loads a heck of a lot more 
bandwidth than it's taking up by crawling the official site.
There have also been a ton of people that wanted to donate to us in the 
past that we just asked to get a membership instead.  Without 
geocaching.com's data our site is very boreing.  Jason and I feel that 
it's in their best interest in let us continue on as usual as I feel 
those same people will probably just not renew their membership in 
protest of us getting shut down potentialy costing geocaching.com thousands.

I would be open to starting our own deal, but thats just way more work 
and responsibility that I would like to deal with, and it probably 
doesn't have the numbers of people behind it to potentially make it 
profitable, so it would be a TON of time that just HAD to be put into 
it.  Don't get me wrong, I love doing azgeocaching.com, but there are 
some days that I just don't even want to look at it. I wouldn't want to 
run a site that absolutly required maintainace every day without a 
little something extra to make it worth my while, and help pay the 
bills.  Spreading out the site is a good idea, but it doesn't get rid o 
the fact that the site, however small it is would still need to be 
maintained, and having to do a couple of things a day is almost more 
annoying than haveing to do a bunch of things.  Thats always been the 
nice thing about azgeocaching.com, that for the most part, it's been 
self maintaining.  We could spend as much or as little time as our 
schedules dictated, and this time of the year it's been a real blessing 
to not HAVE to babysit a website.

Anyway, I guess it would take some further discussion.

Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek

Brian LaFrance wrote:
> I'm all for starting our own open source version specific to Arizona...if we
> could get enough resources together, it might be kind of fun to try.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Jason
> Poulter
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:33 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
> 
> 
> maybe we should just dump geocaching.com all together and write our own
> site!!! ;)
> 
> or at least a distributed database that everyone and anyone could setup
> and access all over the world with open source code etc...
> 
> jason
> 
> 
> 
> Brian LaFrance wrote:
> 
> 
>>Maybe we could figure out a way to distribute the workload across several
>>servers.  I also have a server that I could run the code on.  It may be
>>something where we could each query a range of cache numbers, user ID's, or
>>some other way of breaking the load up.  Not sure if that would help
> 
> though.
> 
>>We all may end up banned from scraping data off Geocaching.com...it could
> 
> be
> 
>>a fun project to try though.
>>
>>Brian
>>Team AZEvil
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
>>bcasteel@cox.net
>>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:35 PM
>>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
>>
>>
>>That's a good idea, in theory.  However, not every cacher can write code
>>like the Snaptek guys, nor can everyone understand how to run a script of
>>this nature.  If they gave me the code, I'd gladly throw it up on my server
>>to run, and all would be happy.  :)
>>
>>Brian
>>Team A.I.
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Bob Renner <renner001@yahoo.com>
>>>Date: 2003/09/04 Thu PM 05:34:29 EDT
>>>To: Arizona Geocaching List <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>>>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
>>>
>>>Jason,
>>>
>>>I realize this would be a total rewrite of your
>>>statistics gathering software, but it might be a way
>>>to lessen the load it puts on the geocaching.com
>>>website.  Instead of crawling the entire data base, go
>>>to the individual profile pages of Arizona geocachers,
>>>and get the information from the "User Stats" pages.
>>>Anyone who wants to have their information included
>>>into the AZgeocaching web page, would have to tell you
>>>to include them in your list.  You could still include
>>>the logs of others on the caches within Arizona.
>>>
>>>Another, approach would be for you to provide the code
>>>for Arizona geocachers to run on their own computers
>>>to get their basic information from geocaching.com and
>>>then automatically forward this to you to be compiled
>>>into one database.  The advantage of this would be
>>>that the load on geocaching.com would be from multiple
>>>IP addresses and only when a user knows his/her stats
>>>need to be updated (i.e. when they have found or
>>>placed a new cache).
>>>
>>>Just a thought that might help get around any blocking
>>>you are experiencing.
>>>
>>>Bob Renner
>>>
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