[Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
Bill Tomlinson
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:01:11 -0700
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Actually, you got a request for clarification. RandMan got the War and
Peace answer. The bottom line (actually there are two), though, is that
RandMan, TheWebbman, and I all understood it the same way. Perhaps =
simply
another example of this poor means of communication? I suppose that is =
why
my messages are so long. Clarity is a good thing.
=20
The other bottom line is that you and I have exchanged a number of =
positive
messages and I hope that continues. The last was after our previous
marathon. In that thread, I described our very geeky setup. One GPS in =
the
truck with the laptop and mapping software, one GPS in the field, power
inverter, Palm book, MapPoint, Topo, iPaq, and a whole mess of wires.
=20
As I said in that thread and others have echoed in this one, the key =
purpose
is to have fun. The reason we use all of the technology is so that we =
can
forget about the mechanics and concentrate on enjoying each cache. The
primary reason for these two marathon runs is because we are good =
friends
that enjoy geocaching very much. He and his wife are about to have =
their
first child and he will soon be doing much less and our schedules most
likely won't allow us to do this again. Although having a record is =
kind of
cool, it isn't a primary motivator. As a matter of fact, another cacher
(CHUMP maybe) pointed out my current lead for the year which I wasn't =
even
aware of. Besides, our daily records won't last long. There are so =
many
urban micros in the East valley, a new team could easily hit 60 if they
planned well.
=20
Blah, blah, blah. Sorry, like I said, I tend to run on. So, if you =
have
any interest at all left, feel free to answer my request for =
clarification
and I'll try to answer the question you meant to ask.
=20
CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
Regan
Smith
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:18 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
I ask a simple yes or no question and get a War and Peace answer....
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=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bill <mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net> Tomlinson=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
Truth be known, I did understand Regan's question, but I wanted him to =
ask
it straight out. To be honest, I'm quite offended by the question. Had =
he
bothered to become informed before raising an issue, he would have known
that a number of my caches have been done with my family. That fact is =
even
put forth in word and photo on my profile page. Yes, TheWebbman and I =
have
done a great many caches together. So to have Tres Hombres, Lazy K, and
Team C.H.U.M.P. There are also a number of caches that we both have =
gotten,
but at different times, as well as caches that only one of us have. I
wonder if this question has posed to those teams or any of the others =
that
frequently hunt together.
=20
For the record, I wouldn't be caught away from home without my GPS 12 =
and
TheWebbman is quite fond of his Legend. It's amazing what a little bit =
of
competition will bring out in a person.
=20
CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of RAND
HARDIN
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:47 AM
To: AZ-Geocaching
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
On March 17th at 11:40 a.m. RandMan responded with his interpretation of
Regan's question and thoughts:
=20
Bill,
=20
Didn't you read the fine print in the rules for the definition of what a
"team" is? If both you and "The Webbman" used the same GPSr to find all =
of
the 250+ caches that you found together, then you would be considered a
"team" and can only record your finds as a team (together). You cannot =
both
claim finds separately. Therefore, one of you will need to delete all =
of
the caches that you found together (which in turn will move everyone up =
a
point in the AZ stats) [:)] . [;-)]=20
=20
Rand (RandMan)=20
=20
=20
=20
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Tomlinson
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
=20
Can you re-phrase that? Sometimes I'm comprehension challenged. (I =
mean,
I don't get it)
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
Regan
Smith
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:16 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
Will both of you be using the same GPS???
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bill Tomlinson <mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net> =20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
=20
You guys at the top have got to knock off this rivalry or us newbies =
will
never be able to catch up. ;-) Speaking of which, be watching for =
another
big day from teams TheWebbman and CacheLess. Now I hope I didn't just =
jinx
us.
=20
CacheLess
Bill
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Actually, you =
got a=20
request for clarification. RandMan got the War and Peace =
answer. The=20
bottom line (actually there are two), though, is that =
RandMan, TheWebbman,=20
and I all understood it the same way. Perhaps simply another =
example of=20
this poor means of communication? I suppose that is why my =
messages are so=20
long. Clarity is a good thing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>The other =
bottom line is=20
that you and I have exchanged a number of positive messages and I hope =
that=20
continues. The last was after our previous marathon. In that =
thread,=20
I described our very geeky setup. One GPS in the truck with the =
laptop and=20
mapping software, one GPS in the field, power inverter, Palm book, =
MapPoint,=20
Topo, iPaq, and a whole mess of wires.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>As I said in =
that thread=20
and others have echoed in this one, the key purpose is to have =
fun. The=20
reason we use all of the technology is so that we can forget about the =
mechanics=20
and concentrate on enjoying each cache. The primary reason for =
these two=20
marathon runs is because we are good friends that enjoy geocaching very=20
much. He and his wife are about to have their first child and he =
will soon=20
be doing much less and our schedules most likely won't allow us to =
do this=20
again. Although having a record is kind of cool, it isn't a =
primary=20
motivator. As a matter of fact, another cacher (CHUMP maybe) =
pointed out=20
my current lead for the year which I wasn't even aware of. =
Besides, our=20
daily records won't last long. There are so many urban micros in =
the East=20
valley, a new team could easily hit 60 if they planned =
well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Blah, blah, =
blah. =20
Sorry, like I said, I tend to run on. So, if you have any interest =
at all=20
left, feel free to answer my request for clarification and I'll try to =
answer=20
the question you meant to ask.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT=20
face=3Dverdana>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003>Bill Tomlinson</SPAN></DIV>
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az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Regan Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 5:18 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] New =
Leader=20
(again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I ask a simple yes or no question and get a =
War and=20
Peace answer....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net =
href=3D"mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill=20
Tomlinson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 =
1:34=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
New Leader=20
(again)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Truth be =
known, I did=20
understand Regan's question, but I wanted him to ask it straight =
out. =20
To be honest, I'm quite offended by the question. Had he =
bothered to=20
become informed before raising an issue, he would have known that a =
number=20
of my caches have been done with my family. That fact is even =
put=20
forth in word and photo on my profile page. Yes, TheWebbman =
and I have=20
done a great many caches together. So to have Tres Hombres, =
Lazy K,=20
and Team C.H.U.M.P. There are also a number of caches that we =
both=20
have gotten, but at different times, as well as caches that only one =
of us=20
have. I wonder if this question has posed to those teams or =
any of the=20
others that frequently hunt together.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>For the =
record, I=20
wouldn't be caught away from home without my GPS 12 and TheWebbman =
is quite=20
fond of his Legend. It's amazing what a little bit of =
competition will=20
bring out in a person.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT=20
face=3Dverdana>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003>Bill Tomlinson</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
</B>RAND HARDIN<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 11:47=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ-Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching] New=20
Leader (again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><U>On March 17th at 11:40 a.m. RandMan responded with his=20
interpretation of Regan's question and thoughts:</U></DIV>
<DIV><U></U> </DIV>
<DIV>Bill,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Didn't you read the <U>fine print</U> in the rules for =
the=20
definition of what a "team" is? If both you and "The=20
Webbman" used the same GPSr to find all of the 250+ caches =
that you=20
found together, then you would be considered a "team" and can =
only=20
record your finds as a team (together). You cannot both =
claim finds=20
separately. Therefore, one of you will need to <U>delete</U> =
all of=20
the caches that you found together (which in turn will =
move=20
everyone up a point in the AZ stats) [:)] . =20
[;-)] </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rand (RandMan) </DIV>
<DIV><U></U> </DIV>
<DIV><U></U> </DIV>
<DIV><U></U> </DIV>
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Bill Tomlinson</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, =
2003 9:06=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> =
listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching] New=20
Leader (again)</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D541564702-17032003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff>Can=20
you re-phrase that? Sometimes I'm comprehension=20
challenged. (I mean, I don't get =
it)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
</B>Regan Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 14, 2003 7:16=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
[Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><U>Will both of you be using the same=20
GPS???</U></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net=20
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title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March =
13, 2003=20
1:17 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
New Leader (again)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>You guys at the top have got to <U>knock off =
this=20
rivalry or us newbies will never be able to catch up. =20
;-)</U> Speaking of which, <U>be watching for =
another=20
big day from teams TheWebbman and CacheLess</U>. Now I =
hope I=20
didn't just jinx us.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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