[Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
Team Coyote1022
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Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:05:12 -0700
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MessageI'm with you Loran, from now on, I'm using both my GPS's along with a
team member to get a better track on the cache, and claim two finds to boot!
Thanks for the great idea!! As a matter of fact, I think I'll go back thru
the one's I've already found and log them again, at least the ones I
remember using two GPS's on!!!
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-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Loran
Wilcox
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:39 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
According to this logic..
If two people use one GPS they can only claim the cache one time between
them.
Does that mean when I use two gps's for one person I get two finds.
That should boost the numbers a little.
I think this whole thread was becoming to serious.
Loran (Team Sand Dollar)
----- Original Message -----
From: Webb Pickersgill
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
Hmmm... tough crowd. I didn't realize Bill and I would cause such a
ruckus. I do this for FUN (and because I'm addicted but that's a different
story), and I'm just lucky that because I'm a newbie, I'm able to play
catch-up and have a blast getting a bunch in a short period of time. In any
case, I'm not taking this whole "how many GPSr's?" thing seriously, however,
I don't mind playing devil's avocate and making a few friendly comments.
(Nothing like stirring the pot)
- Even though we (CacheLess and I) team up, I have been known to
secretly grab the cache, try to sign the log and return it before CacheLess
notices. He really hates it when I try to do that... but not that he hasn't
tried the same thing to me. With that kind of behavoir, I'm sure he's GLAD
I'm not on his team.
- CacheLess has come with me to get caches that he already has logged.
Despite begging, he refuses to tell me anything.. and even laughs at me on
occasion. With that kind of behavior, I'm glad he's not on MY team.
- So... if I knew where the Pueblo Grande Museum was, and I didn't use
my GPS to get there, then it doesn't count as a geocache find?
- I've seen users who simply use the mapquest maps to get close and find
the cache just by searching the area. Should their logs be deleted?
- What about a person who stumbles across a cache, discovering
geocaching for the first time. Does he need to buy a GPS, then return to
the cache later to be able to sign the log?
Keep in mind, I'm not being serious here. I'm just trying to say that
geocaching is supposed to be FUN, and that's all we're trying to do: HAVE
FUN!
Webb Pickersgill
TheWebbman
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Bill
Tomlinson
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:35 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
Truth be known, I did understand Regan's question, but I wanted him to
ask it straight out. To be honest, I'm quite offended by the question. Had
he bothered to become informed before raising an issue, he would have known
that a number of my caches have been done with my family. That fact is even
put forth in word and photo on my profile page. Yes, TheWebbman and I have
done a great many caches together. So to have Tres Hombres, Lazy K, and
Team C.H.U.M.P. There are also a number of caches that we both have gotten,
but at different times, as well as caches that only one of us have. I
wonder if this question has posed to those teams or any of the others that
frequently hunt together.
For the record, I wouldn't be caught away from home without my GPS 12
and TheWebbman is quite fond of his Legend. It's amazing what a little bit
of competition will bring out in a person.
CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of RAND
HARDIN
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:47 AM
To: AZ-Geocaching
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
On March 17th at 11:40 a.m. RandMan responded with his
interpretation of Regan's question and thoughts:
Bill,
Didn't you read the fine print in the rules for the definition of
what a "team" is? If both you and "The Webbman" used the same GPSr to find
all of the 250+ caches that you found together, then you would be considered
a "team" and can only record your finds as a team (together). You cannot
both claim finds separately. Therefore, one of you will need to delete all
of the caches that you found together (which in turn will move everyone up a
point in the AZ stats) [:)] . [;-)]
Rand (RandMan)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Tomlinson
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
Can you re-phrase that? Sometimes I'm comprehension challenged.
(I mean, I don't get it)
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Regan
Smith
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:16 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
Will both of you be using the same GPS???
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Tomlinson
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
You guys at the top have got to knock off this rivalry or us
newbies will never be able to catch up. ;-) Speaking of which, be
watching for another big day from teams TheWebbman and CacheLess. Now I
hope I didn't just jinx us.
CacheLess
Bill
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GPS's=20
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az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Loran Wilcox<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 5:39 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] New =
Leader=20
(again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>According to this logic..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>If two people use one GPS they can only claim =
the cache=20
one time between them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Does that mean when I use two gps's for one =
person I get=20
two finds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>That should boost the numbers a =
little.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I think this whole thread was becoming to=20
serious.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Loran (Team Sand Dollar)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dwpickers@cox.net href=3D"mailto:wpickers@cox.net">Webb=20
Pickersgill</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 =
2:39=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
New Leader=20
(again)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Hmmm... =
tough=20
crowd. I didn't realize Bill and I would cause such a =
ruckus. I=20
do this for FUN (and because I'm addicted but that's a different =
story), and=20
I'm just lucky that because I'm a newbie, I'm able to play catch-up=20
and have a blast getting a bunch in a short period of =
time. =20
In any case, I'm not taking this whole "how many GPSr's?" thing =
seriously,=20
however, I don't mind playing devil's avocate and making a few =
friendly=20
comments. (Nothing like stirring the pot)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana> =20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>- Even =
though we=20
(CacheLess and I) team up, I have been known to secretly grab the =
cache, try=20
to sign the log and return it before CacheLess notices. He =
really=20
hates it when I try to do that... but not that he hasn't tried the =
same=20
thing to me. With that kind of behavoir, I'm sure he's GLAD =
I'm not on=20
his team.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003>- CacheLess has come with me =
to=20
get caches that he already has logged. Despite =
begging, he=20
refuses to tell me anything.. and even laughs at me on =
occasion. With=20
that kind of behavior, I'm glad he's not on MY team.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>- So... =
if I knew=20
where the Pueblo Grande Museum was, and I didn't use my GPS to get =
there,=20
then it doesn't count as a geocache find?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003>- I've seen users who simply =
use the=20
mapquest maps to get close and find the cache just by searching =
the=20
area. Should their logs be deleted?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003>- What about a person who =
stumbles=20
across a cache, discovering geocaching for the first time. =
Does he=20
need to buy a GPS, then return to the cache later to be able to sign =
the=20
log?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003><FONT=20
face=3Dverdana></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Keep in =
mind, I'm not=20
being serious here. I'm just trying to say that geocaching is =
supposed=20
to be FUN, and that's all we're trying to do: HAVE =
FUN!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Webb=20
Pickersgill</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003>TheWebbman</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D406255820-17032003><FONT=20
face=3Dverdana></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf =
Of=20
</B>Bill Tomlinson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 1:35=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
[Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Truth =
be known, I=20
did understand Regan's question, but I wanted him to ask it =
straight=20
out. To be honest, I'm quite offended by the question. =
Had he=20
bothered to become informed before raising an issue, he would have =
known=20
that a number of my caches have been done with my family. =
That fact=20
is even put forth in word and photo on my profile page. Yes, =
TheWebbman and I have done a great many caches together. So =
to have=20
Tres Hombres, Lazy K, and Team C.H.U.M.P. There are also a =
number of=20
caches that we both have gotten, but at different times, as well =
as caches=20
that only one of us have. I wonder if this question has =
posed to=20
those teams or any of the others that frequently hunt=20
together.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>For the =
record, I=20
wouldn't be caught away from home without my GPS 12 and TheWebbman =
is=20
quite fond of his Legend. It's amazing what a little bit of=20
competition will bring out in a person.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT=20
face=3Dverdana>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003>Bill Tomlinson</SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
</B>RAND HARDIN<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 11:47=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ-Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
New Leader (again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><U>On March 17th at 11:40 a.m. RandMan responded with his=20
interpretation of Regan's question and thoughts:</U></DIV>
<DIV><U></U> </DIV>
<DIV>Bill,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Didn't you read the <U>fine print</U> in the rules for =
the=20
definition of what a "team" is? If both you and "The=20
Webbman" used the same GPSr to find all of the 250+ caches =
that you=20
found together, then you would be considered a "team" and =
can only=20
record your finds as a team (together). You cannot both =
claim=20
finds separately. Therefore, one of you will need to =
<U>delete</U>=20
all of the caches that you found together (which in =
turn will=20
move everyone up a point in the AZ stats) [:)] =
. =20
[;-)] </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Rand (RandMan) </DIV>
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<DIV><U></U> </DIV>
<DIV><U></U> </DIV>
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Bill Tomlinson</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, =
2003 9:06=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B>=20
listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching] New=20
Leader (again)</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D541564702-17032003><FONT face=3DArial =
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you re-phrase that? Sometimes I'm comprehension=20
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[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf=20
Of </B>Regan Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 14, 2003 =
7:16=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
[Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><U>Will both of you be using the =
same=20
GPS???</U></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net=20
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</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, =
March 13,=20
2003 1:17 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
New Leader (again)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>You guys at the top have got to <U>knock =
off this=20
rivalry or us newbies will never be able to catch =
up. =20
;-)</U> Speaking of which, <U>be watching for =
another=20
big day from teams TheWebbman and CacheLess</U>. Now =
I hope=20
I didn't just jinx us.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
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