[Az-Geocaching] Cabeza Cache (GCC41E)
Team Tierra Buena
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Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:12:21 -0700
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One cache that the Strike Force passed on was the recently posted
"Cabeza Cache"
(http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=50206). We decided
against trying it because Rob of Team C.H.U.M.P., Strike Force
Navigator, was unable to locate any access roads to the cache from the
vicinity of the road we were on. I sent the message below to the cache
owners, and just received the reply shown below that.
I'm not sure I accept his statement that "...the road from Tule Well to
Christmas Pass is open". It's certainly not open all the way to the
northern entrance at Tacna (this per the BLM person I spoke to), and
even if it is open part way, I don't think there is any point on that
road that gets you within five miles of the cache coordinates.
Those of you with topo maps of the area may be able to find a road in
for a shorter hike to this cache, but from what I saw, even if we had
found such a road we never would have been able to hit it in the time we
had. I'll be interested to see what they add to the cache page.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- Dave
Barry
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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:48 PM
To: <Team Tierra Buena>
Subject: Re: Team Tierra Buena contacting you from Geocaching.com
In a message dated 1/19/03 9:42:17 PM Mountain Standard Time,
emailer@geocaching.com writes:
Hi!
We were in Cabeza Prieta today, and had plans to do your cache after the
"El Camino del Diablo" cache. But it appeared to us that there is no
publicly open vehicular route north from El Camino del Diablo itself,
and we hadn't planned on a hike of that length when we came in.
So for a possible future attempt, I'd like to know is there a route from
the North or northwest to the cache, or is it all about the hike? And if
it is a hike, could you provide some suggestions as to the best
approach(es)? Planning is everything when you're that isolated.
Good questions, I will try to update the cache page. The roads are
posted "closed" off the El Camino Del Diablo Road only. And not only
roads, anything looking like a faint trail is posted closed as well.
However there is NO closed signs posting the Cabiza Prieta when
approaching from the West, east or the North. Also the road leading
northeast from Tule well to Christmas Pass is open. It looks like there
is a closed sign on it but if you read the sign, It posts it closed
later in the year. I am sure they are just trying to lessen off road
damage to the preserve off the El Camino Del Diablo. Later b
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cache that the Strike Force passed on was the recently posted "Cabeza =
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We decided against trying it because Rob of Team C.H.U.M.P., Strike =
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Navigator, was unable to locate any access roads to the cache from the =
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of the road we were on. I sent the message below to the cache owners, =
and just=20
received the reply shown below that.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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not sure I accept his statement that "...the road from Tule Well to =
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Pass is open". It's certainly not open all the way to the northern =
entrance at=20
Tacna (this per the BLM person I spoke to), and even if it is open part =
way, I=20
don't think there is any point on that road that gets you within five =
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class=3D087095204-21012003>Those of you with topo maps of the area may =
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find a road in for a shorter hike to this cache, but from what I saw, =
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had found such a road we never would have been able to hit it in the =
time we=20
had. I'll be interested to see what they add to the cache=20
page.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">Steve<BR>Team Tierra=20
Buena<BR></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D296575623-28102002><FONT=20
face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D3><EM>There is a very fine line between =
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"mental illness". </EM></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">-- Dave =
Barry</SPAN></P></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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a message dated 1/19/03 9:42:17 PM Mountain Standard Time,=20
emailer@geocaching.com writes: <BR><BR><BR>
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TYPE=3D"CITE">Hi! <BR><BR>We were in Cabeza Prieta today, and had =
plans to do=20
your cache after the "El Camino del Diablo" cache. But it appeared =
to us=20
that there is no publicly open vehicular route north from El Camino =
del=20
Diablo itself, and we hadn't planned on a hike of that length when =
we came=20
in. <BR><BR>So for a possible future attempt, I'd like to know is =
there a=20
route from the North or northwest to the cache, or is it all about =
the hike?=20
And if it is a hike, could you provide some suggestions as to the =
best=20
approach(es)? Planning is everything when you're that isolated.=20
<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Good questions, I will try to update the =
cache=20
page. The roads are posted "closed" off the El Camino Del Diablo Road =
only.=20
And not only roads, anything looking like a faint trail is posted =
closed as=20
well. However there is NO closed signs posting the Cabiza Prieta when=20
approaching from the West, east or the North. Also the road leading =
northeast=20
from Tule well to Christmas Pass is open. It looks like there is a =
closed sign=20
on it but if you read the sign, It posts it closed later in the year. =
I am=20
sure they are just trying to lessen off road damage to the preserve =
off the El=20
Camino Del Diablo. Later b</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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