[Az-Geocaching] Cache Karma

[Regan Smith]

I know that if I knew of a way of placing a cache in such a manner that
would directly benefit Brian and Jason for keeping the stats alive and in a
very neat manner I would.

naturally if say Jason was to stop by Moving Targets secondary location any
night after 10pm and prior to 6am from now till Thursday and bring his soda
mug he could fill it for FREE even if I do forget to bring the cache with
me.

I wish I could remember the quote proper that went something like progress
measured is progress gained

If it wasn't for first place I would be happy

More books have resulted from somebody's need to write that from anybody's
need to read

I too could be successful, if I had money, talent, luck, charm, confidence,
and plenty of help.

There's no room in this argument for both of us, unless you move over a
little.

Why do I get so little thanks for the many things I do that nobody wants
done?

The countyside never closes.

Beware! Freedom of speech also includes the freedom to be misunderstood

I march to a different drummer, whose location, identity, and musical
training havent' yet been established.














----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cluff" <brian@snaptek.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Karma


> trisha@brasher.com wrote:
>
> >My original point, however, still is valid. If NOBODY hid any caches,
> >there would be NONE to seek. So the people who hide NONE or very few,
> >yet go find a hundred or two or more, are "riding" on the backs of
> >those who have taken the time and money to hide the caches that others
> >find. I am not complaining in that sense, as I enjoy hiding caches, so
> >I can read the logs of the people who seek it. Also, I personally
> >would feel guilty about using everybody else's caches for my
> >enjoyment, and not giving back, if I didn't hide some of my own.
> >
> Jason originally came up with the concept of cache karma as a way to put
> a number on the amount of guilt someone could feel about not giving back
> to a game they were participating in and it was originally set to a 20:1
> ratio after a lot of discussion on what it should be.  At the time, if I
> remember right, there were just over 100 caches total in arizona, and
> just having 20 finds total was a major accomplishment.  So, after
> leaving it that way for a while, it started to be very apparent that the
> ratio we had origionally chosen would be rather ridiculous with the
> current popularity of geocaching.   I felt that the more caches there
> were out there, the less someone should be expected to hide one and came
> up with a ratio that is now a moving target, and is currently calculated
> as one twentieth the total caches in arizona to one cache hidden
> (totalcaches/20) : 1.  When I origionally changed to this formula, it
> was approx a 45:1 ratio, and in only a couple of months has changed to a
> 64.8:1 ratio.  So you could currently find 128 caches with only one hide
> and still have a positive cache karma (Just barely).
>
> I may change the formula again if it seems to stop working, but right
> now it seems to be keeping up with the growth nicely, but in the mean
> time, if you don't like the cache karma, nobody says you have to look at
> it.  It's definitely the number on the stats that is very debatable, but
> right now I have little time to debate it.  (hopefully in a couple of
> weeks they will hire a new person at work and I won't be so busy... we
> can debate it then if you would like :)
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
>
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