[Az-Geocaching] Oregon bureaucrats propose using GPS to track each driver...

Mike Ingoglia listserv@azgeocaching.com
Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:39:02 -0700


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MessageI wonder if you could use the excuse that the driver was your =
long lost twin brother who was visiting from Iraq...  Tell the officer, =
"good luck trying to get Iraq to extradite my twin brother to the U.S. =
to pay the ticket".  :-)


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Team Tierra Buena=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Oregon bureaucrats propose using GPS to =
track each driver...


  Well, one of my kids got nailed in Scottsdale, driving our car =
(registered to us). I got the ticket in the mail Went down to the police =
station. They showed me the photo. It obviously wasn't my picture. They =
asked me if I knew who the driver was. I told them no. They stamped =
something on the citation and later on I got something in the mail =
stating the charges had been dropped. But I told my kid if it happened =
again I'd rat him out in a heartbeat.

  Steve
  Team Tierra Buena
  There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- =
Dave Barry
    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Mike =
Ingoglia
    Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:20 PM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Oregon bureaucrats propose using GPS to =
track each driver...


    Yeah, but if fought in court (supposedly) you can get out of it.... =
from what I've been told.  Anyone experience this?
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Bill=20
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:52 AM
      Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Oregon bureaucrats propose using GPS =
to track each driver...


      The inability to identify the driver hasn't stopped the red light =
cameras from mailing tickets.

      Bill

        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Mike Ingoglia=20


        That's an interesting idea that I hadn't thought about...  If =
GPS was allowed to be used for law enforcement they could develop =
thresholds in which it would automagically mail you a ticket...  =
actually this may not happen because they couldn't be sure if the owner =
of the vehicle was actually driving... but it could prompt authorities =
to attempt to intersect you and pull you over,  I'd imagine.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder if you could use the excuse =
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driver was your long lost twin brother who was visiting from =
Iraq...&nbsp; Tell=20
the officer, "good luck trying to get Iraq to extradite my twin brother =
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U.S. to pay the ticket".&nbsp; :-)</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dteamtierrabuena@earthlink.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:teamtierrabuena@earthlink.net">Team Tierra Buena</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 07, 2003 =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Oregon=20
  bureaucrats propose using GPS to track each driver...</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123374219-07012003><FONT face=3D"Book =
Antiqua">Well, one of my=20
  kids got nailed in Scottsdale, driving our car (registered to us). I =
got the=20
  ticket in the mail Went down to the police station. They showed me the =
photo.=20
  It obviously wasn't my picture. They asked me if I knew who the driver =
was. I=20
  told them no. They stamped something on the citation and later on I =
got=20
  something in the mail stating the charges had been dropped. But I told =
my kid=20
  if it happened again I'd rat him out in a =
heartbeat.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D123374219-07012003><FONT face=3D"Book =
Antiqua">Steve<BR>Team=20
  Tierra Buena<BR></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D296575623-28102002><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D3><EM>There is a very fine line between =
"hobby" and=20
  "mental illness". </EM></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">-- =
Dave=20
  Barry</SPAN></DIV></FONT></SPAN>
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    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
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    [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf =
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    [Az-Geocaching] Oregon bureaucrats propose using GPS to track each=20
    driver...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yeah, but if fought in court =
(supposedly) you=20
    can get out of it.... from what I've been told.&nbsp; Anyone =
experience=20
    this?</FONT></DIV>
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      <A title=3Dbill@freeholder.com =
href=3D"mailto:bill@freeholder.com">Bill</A>=20
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 07, =
2003 9:52=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching] Oregon=20
      bureaucrats propose using GPS to track each driver...</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>The inability to =
identify the=20
      driver hasn't stopped the red light cameras from mailing=20
      tickets.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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        <A title=3Dmike@leaplab.com =
href=3D"mailto:mike@leaplab.com">Mike=20
        Ingoglia</A> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's an interesting idea that =
I hadn't=20
        thought about...&nbsp; If GPS was allowed to be used for law =
enforcement=20
        they could develop thresholds in which it would automagically =
mail you a=20
        ticket...&nbsp; actually this may not happen because they =
couldn't be=20
        sure if the owner of the vehicle was actually driving... but it =
could=20
        prompt authorities to attempt to intersect you and pull you =
over,&nbsp;=20
        I'd=20
imagine.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>=
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