From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 03:04:19 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:04:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!
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Congratulations, and best wishes for Mrs. Brekke.  
 
(If there was a picture attached, it didn't show up in my e-mail.)

Joe Brekke <joenveng@cableaz.com> wrote:
Thank you everyone for your best wishes!  Here's a peek at him...Harmon Joseph Brekke 8 lbs 8 oz and 19 inches long.
 
Joe
TeamBlunder
----- Original Message ----- 
From: RAND HARDIN 
To: AZ-Geocaching 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!


Chelby and family,
 
I never did congratulate you on your new arrival.  Congratulations!  I hope all is well with you and the new addition and hope to run into you on the trail soon.
 
Yes, we may need to have an event cache just for the new additions!  [:D]
 
Take care,
 
Rand
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Chelby Geiss
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:20 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!
 
My thoughts are with you Team Blunder!  Exactly 4 weeks ago tonite I 
was in the exact same place!:)  Looking forward to the exciting news!  
I think we'll have to have a new geocacher event cache to meet all the 
recent additions!

Team desertSol
Chelby, Kevin and Aiden
+
Kiva and Lancer (German Shepherds)
Apache Junction, AZ
www.desertsol.com/~chelby/geocaching 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=Harmon's Birth 033.jpg


> ATTACHMENT part 3 image/jpeg name=Harmon's Birth 022.jpg


> ATTACHMENT part 4 image/jpeg name=Harmon's Birth 012.jpg



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>Congratulations, and best wishes for Mrs. Brekke.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>(If there was a picture attached, it didn't show up in my e-mail.)<BR><BR><B><I>Joe Brekke &lt;joenveng@cableaz.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thank you everyone for your best wishes!&nbsp; Here's a peek at him...Harmon Joseph Brekke 8 lbs 8 oz and 19 inches long.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Joe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>TeamBlunder</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=RHrdn8@msn.com href="mailto:RHrdn8@msn.com">RAND HARDIN</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">AZ-Geocaching</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:05 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!</DIV>
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<DIV>Chelby and family,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I never did congratulate you on <U>your</U> new arrival.&nbsp; Congratulations!&nbsp; I hope all is well with you and the new addition&nbsp;and hope to run into you on the trail soon.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Yes, we may need to have an event cache just for the new additions!&nbsp; [:D]</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Take care,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Rand</DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Chelby Geiss</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:20 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>My thoughts are with you Team Blunder!&nbsp; Exactly 4 weeks ago tonite I <BR>was in the exact same place!:)&nbsp; Looking forward to the exciting news!&nbsp; <BR>I think we'll have to have a new geocacher event cache to meet all the <BR>recent additions!<BR><BR>Team desertSol<BR>Chelby, Kevin and Aiden<BR>+<BR>Kiva and Lancer (German Shepherds)<BR>Apache Junction, AZ<BR>www.desertsol.com/~chelby/geocaching </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>&gt; ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=Harmon's Birth 033.jpg<BR><BR><BR>&gt; ATTACHMENT part 3 image/jpeg name=Harmon's Birth 022.jpg<BR><BR><BR>&gt; ATTACHMENT part 4 image/jpeg name=Harmon's Birth 012.jpg<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for
 you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 14:11:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Cheryl Brown)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:11:02 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!
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Congratulation on such a handsome boy.
Team CBx2
 
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Brekke
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:39 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!
 
Thank you everyone for your best wishes!  Here's a peek at him...Harmon
Joseph Brekke 8 lbs 8 oz and 19 inches long.
 
Joe
TeamBlunder
----- Original Message ----- 
From: RAND HARDIN <mailto:RHrdn8@msn.com>  
To: AZ-Geocaching <mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com>  
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!
 
Chelby and family,
 
I never did congratulate you on your new arrival.  Congratulations!  I
hope all is well with you and the new addition and hope to run into you
on the trail soon.
 
Yes, we may need to have an event cache just for the new additions!
[:D]
 
Take care,
 
Rand
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Chelby Geiss
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:20 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!
 
My thoughts are with you Team Blunder!  Exactly 4 weeks ago tonite I 
was in the exact same place!:)  Looking forward to the exciting news!  
I think we'll have to have a new geocacher event cache to meet all the 
recent additions!

Team desertSol
Chelby, Kevin and Aiden
+
Kiva and Lancer (German Shepherds)
Apache Junction, AZ
www.desertsol.com/~chelby/geocaching 

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Geiss<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
July 30, 2003 10:20 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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listserv@azgeocaching.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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pan></font></b><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day =
tomorrow!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DVerdana><span
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Team
Blunder!&nbsp; Exactly 4 weeks ago tonite I <br>
was in the exact same place!:)&nbsp; Looking forward to the exciting
news!&nbsp; <br>
I think we'll have to have a new geocacher event cache to meet all the =
<br>
recent additions!<br>
<br>
Team desertSol<br>
Chelby, Kevin and Aiden<br>
+<br>
Kiva and Lancer (German Shepherds)<br>
Apache Junction, AZ<br>
www.desertsol.com/~chelby/geocaching <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 17:49:48 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jim Scotti)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:49:48 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Mars Approaching (Warning: Off-Topic)
In-Reply-To: <20030731145645.4914.h010.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0308011046020.14831-100000@arjuna.lpl.arizona.edu>

To all potential geocaching Mars enthusiasts,
   A followup to my message yesterday for folks in Tucson, here is some info
on what the Flandrau Science Center and Planetarium is planning as well as
the Tucson Amateur Astronomy Association (TAAA).  This is from the "Lo Que
Pasa", a staff oriented news service:

******************
Mars Invades Flandrau Science Center
        Flandrau Science Center has special exhibits, planetarium
presentations, telescope viewing, and the 'MarsQuest' Planetarium Show coming
up to celebrate the closest approach of Mars to Earth in 60,000 years.
         The events begin with special Saturdays at Flandrau from Aug. 16
through Sept. 27 and special telescope viewing (weather permitting) with the
Tucson Amateur Astronomy Association on the UA mall from Aug. 27-30 and on
selected weekends in the fall. Go to the News Services web site at
http://uanews.org for more information.
******************

Jim.

Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                 http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/    


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 19:03:53 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 15:03:53 EDT
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
Message-ID: <78.44cad867.2c5c1399@aol.com>

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Hi all IFISHAZ here,
Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it has 
had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What is your 
(other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very 
repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel Bug? I personally think it 
is wrong, once you have found a cache there is no fun / adventure / 
difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know where it is 
to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to that cache having a 
legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache who may 
have went looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has been there 
before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main goal and 
if you get a TB when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches so you 
can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has been placed and grab it.
Just my opinion, IFISHAZ.

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:02:50 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 16:02:50 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
Message-ID: <20E9C37F.5207C0FD.0013DAD2@aol.com>

People geocache for many reasons, and they get pleasure from different things. Some people will only find easy ones, some people love to make/find puzzle caches,etc. Some people are really into moving bugs around. I think that if someone is going to a cache over and over to retrieve bugs they are going to other caches equally and therefore the chances of a new guy or someone just finding a cache bumping into bugs is about the same.
Also, if someone is going to caches they have been to , they are probably helping to maintain the cache.
just a couple of cents rattling around in my skull.
Budcam


In a message dated 8/1/2003 2:03:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, IFISHAZ writes:

> 
> Hi all IFISHAZ here,
> Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it has had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What is your (other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel Bug? I personally think it is wrong, once you have found a cache there is no fun / adventure / difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know where it is to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to that cache having a legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache who may have went looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has been there before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main goal and if you get a TB when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches so you can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has 
> been placed and grab it.
> Just my opinion, IFISHAZ.
> 
> 
>

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:19:45 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:19:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
In-Reply-To: <78.44cad867.2c5c1399@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20030801201945.43324.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com>

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I don't have any problems with people returning to a cache to get a travel bug as long as the repeat visit is logged as a note and not a find. I think that the consensus in the travel bug forum is that it is acceptable caching behavior. 
 
Is it acceptable behavior to take more than one TB from a cache per visit? I've seen that done and never really knew if that was okay with the geocaching community.
 

IFISHAZ@aol.com wrote:
Hi all IFISHAZ here,
Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it has had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What is your (other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel Bug? I personally think it is wrong, once you have found a cache there is no fun / adventure / difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know where it is to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to that cache having a legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache who may have went looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has been there before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main goal and if you get a TB when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches so you can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has been placed and grab it.
Just my opinion, IFISHAZ. 



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>I don't have any problems with people returning to a cache to get a travel bug as long as the repeat visit is logged as a note and not a find. I think that the consensus in the travel bug forum is that it is acceptable caching behavior. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Is it acceptable behavior to take more than one TB from a cache per visit? I've seen that done and never really knew if that was okay with the&nbsp;geocaching community.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>IFISHAZ@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%"><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Hi all IFISHAZ here,<BR>Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it has had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What is your (other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel Bug? I personally think it is wrong, once you have found a cache there is no fun / adventure / difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know where it is to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to that cache having a legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache who may have went looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has been there before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main goal and if you get a TB
 when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches so you can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has been placed and grab it.<BR>Just my opinion, IFISHAZ.</FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:24:40 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Mark Heitowit)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:24:40 -0700
Subject: [Re: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?]
Message-ID: <715HHauyO1680S10.1059769480@cmsweb10.cms.usa.net>

Usually the only time I go back to revisit a cache to pick up a bug is before
leaving town. I then look for bugs to transport to where I am travelling. I
also look during my travels to be able to move bugs back here.  Also if I have
been holding onto a bug for too long (usually due to lack of time to go
caching), I will quickly revisit a previously found cache to drop a bug off. 
Hopefully it all evens out.

Also everyone plays the game for their own reasons and goals.

BBUDCAM@aol.com wrote:

> People geocache for many reasons, and they get pleasure from different
things. Some people will only find easy ones, some people love to make/find
puzzle caches,etc. Some people are really into moving bugs around. I think
that if someone is going to a cache over and over to retrieve bugs they are
going to other caches equally and therefore the chances of a new guy or
someone just finding a cache bumping into bugs is about the same.
> Also, if someone is going to caches they have been to , they are probably
helping to maintain the cache.
> just a couple of cents rattling around in my skull.
> Budcam
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/1/2003 2:03:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, IFISHAZ
writes:
> 
> > 
> > Hi all IFISHAZ here,
> > Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it has
had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What is your
(other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very
repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel Bug? I personally
think it is wrong, once you have found a cache there is no fun / adventure /
difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know
where it is to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to that cache having
a legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache
who may have went looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has
been there before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main
goal and if you get a TB when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches
so you can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has 
> > been placed and grab it.
> > Just my opinion, IFISHAZ.
> > 
> > 
> >
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:21:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:21:31 EDT
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
Message-ID: <16f.2220c6d2.2c5c25cb@aol.com>

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Ok, I could probably see that if the person was helping maintain the cache it 
could be ok, but without naming names, I know of a couple of cachers who do 
not help maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the cache page taking of the 
bug (only logs to the bug page), makes no trades for the bug thus lowering the 
inventory of the cache. Hense showing only an interest in getting bugs out of 
the cache with not much concern for the cache or cache owner. This is where I 
am having a problem seeing it as ok.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:30:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Team Cache-Quest)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:30:02 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
References: <78.44cad867.2c5c1399@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c3586b$af98d680$8301a8c0@JERRY>

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I've  revisited caches a couple of times to pickup a TB.  I travel for =
business quite a bit.  If I am going to have time (which isn't often), =
I'll revisit a cache to pick up a TB or I'll try to bring one back with =
me and put it in one of stable local caches.  Some caches are =
specifically intended for exchanging TBs and encourage revisits.  My own =
personal rule is to not log revisits as finds.

Jerry (Cache-Quest)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: IFISHAZ@aol.com=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:03 PM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?


  Hi all IFISHAZ here,
  Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it =
has had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What =
is your (other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches =
(sometimes very repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a =
Travel Bug? I personally think it is wrong, once you have found a cache =
there is no fun / adventure / difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also =
by returning to a cache you know where it is to get a TB, you cut =
chances of a new visitor to that cache having a legitimate find of a TB. =
Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache who may have went =
looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has been there =
before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main goal =
and if you get a TB when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find =
geocaches so you can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has =
been placed and grab it.
  Just my opinion, IFISHAZ. 
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've &nbsp;revisited caches a couple of =
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going to=20
have time (which isn't often), I'll revisit a cache to pick up a TB or =
I'll try=20
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caches.&nbsp; Some=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:28:22 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:28:22 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching Roundtable: September 30, 2003
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Last September when we held our first meeting with the state's land
management agencies, there was a consensus that we hold another meeting =
in a
year's time to see how relationships and issues have progressed. That
meeting has now been scheduled for Tuesday evening, September 30th, at =
the
Pueblo Grande Museum near Sky Harbor Airport (and near a number of =
caches,
including a virtual within the Museum itself - visit GC8DD5 for =
coordinates
to the Museum).

Unlike last year, this meeting will not be moderated. Last year I also
selected the Geocachers who were invited. This year it is open to all,
subject to space limitations, so it will be first response, first =
reserved.
You must email me to reserve your place (or places - please send names =
of
all attendees) at the meeting. This is open to any interested =
Geocachers,
not just subscribers to this list, but reservations are required. I also
hope we can get some representation from outside of the Phoenix metro =
area.

I have an invitation which has been sent out by Mary Estes of the State
Historic Preservation Office of the State Parks Department, who is doing
most of the work to set up this year's meeting. Rather than clog up =
those of
you with dial-up lines, I am emailing it to Brian with the request from =
both
Mary and me that the information be posted on the azgeocaching.com web =
site.

I'll be glad to answer any questions here to the best of my ability to =
do
so.

Steve

Team Tierra Buena


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font-family:Arial'>Last September when we held our first meeting with =
the state&#8217;s
land management agencies, there was a consensus that we hold another =
meeting in
a year&#8217;s time to see how relationships and issues have progressed. =
That
meeting has now been scheduled for Tuesday evening, September =
30<sup>th</sup>,
at the Pueblo Grande Museum near Sky Harbor Airport (and near a number =
of
caches, including a virtual within the Museum itself &#8211; visit =
GC8DD5 for
coordinates to the Museum).</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Unlike last year, this meeting will not be moderated. =
Last
year I also selected the Geocachers who were invited. This year it is =
open to
all, subject to space limitations, so it will be first response, first
reserved. You must email me to reserve your place (or places &#8211; =
please send
names of all attendees) at the meeting. This is open to any interested
Geocachers, not just subscribers to this list, but reservations are =
required. I
also hope we can get some representation from outside of the =
</span></font><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Phoenix</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> metro =
area.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I have an invitation which has been sent out by Mary =
Estes
of the State Historic Preservation Office of the State Parks Department, =
who is
doing most of the work to set up this year&#8217;s meeting. Rather than =
clog up
those of you with dial-up lines, I am emailing it to Brian with the =
request
from both Mary and me that the information be posted on the =
azgeocaching.com
web site.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I&#8217;ll be glad to answer any questions here to =
the best
of my ability to do so.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Steve</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:28:22 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:28:22 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!
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Harmon Joseph Brekke 8 lbs 8 oz and 19 inches long.

 

Joe, those hands look as though they could open an ammo can already!

 

Congratulations to you all!

 

Steve

Team Tierra Buena


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19 inches long.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Congratulations to you =
all!</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Steve</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:40:47 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:40:47 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
In-Reply-To: <16f.2220c6d2.2c5c25cb@aol.com>
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If I had a bug that was stuck in a cache that was not frequently visited, I
would probably appreciate the bug being removed by anyone to continue it's
journey. A posting of a note to the cache page will indicate at a minimum to
the cache owner that the cache is there still. Also there are some travel
bugs that are a game in itself, like the Wyle Operatives. I'm yet to be
convinced people taking the bug out of a cache causes anyone harm. I think
far more harmful are those who hold onto bugs for too long or who take them
but can't figure out how to record on the web site that they took them.

I tell you what IS dissapointing in my opinion. Finding a travel bug in
Rocky Point that wants to go to England. Asking the bug owner if they mind
me holding on to it for 2 months until I go over there. Taking it over there
in my hand luggage so the airline can't lose it. Waiting for the day I can
go caching to put it somewhere. Going out on the most awful English summer
day you can imagine to put it in a cache that is behind a mountain of sea
buckthorn that I had to wade through and get soaking wet. Then finding out
the cache was stolen along with the travel bug some time after our visit. :(
Andy



  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
IFISHAZ@aol.com
  Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:22 PM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?


  Ok, I could probably see that if the person was helping maintain the cache
it could be ok, but without naming names, I know of a couple of cachers who
do not help maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the cache page taking of
the bug (only logs to the bug page), makes no trades for the bug thus
lowering the inventory of the cache. Hense showing only an interest in
getting bugs out of the cache with not much concern for the cache or cache
owner. This is where I am having a problem seeing it as ok.
  Once again just my opinion, IFISHAZ.

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how to=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D324013420-01082003>I tell=20
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Point=20
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holding on to=20
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luggage=20
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put it=20
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<P><FONT size=3D2>Andy<BR><BR></FONT></P>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 20:47:43 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ford, Denny)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:47:43 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
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I personally think if you are revisiting a cache for the sake of getting a  TB you should trade one out, if you do not
have one to trade don't take it!  I don't think this applies if it is first visit to a cache, then just trade something
according to the geocache guidelines.
 
that's my 2 cents
 
Denny
Tres Hombres

-----Original Message-----
From: IFISHAZ@aol.com [mailto:IFISHAZ@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:22 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?


Ok, I could probably see that if the person was helping maintain the cache it could be ok, but without naming names, I
know of a couple of cachers who do not help maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the cache page taking of the bug
(only logs to the bug page), makes no trades for the bug thus lowering the inventory of the cache. Hense showing only an
interest in getting bugs out of the cache with not much concern for the cache or cache owner. This is where I am having
a problem seeing it as ok.
Once again just my opinion, IFISHAZ. 


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<DIV><SPAN class=281193220-01082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
personally think if you are revisiting a cache for the sake of getting a&nbsp; 
TB you should trade one out, if you do not have one to trade don't take 
it!&nbsp; I don't think this applies if it is first visit to a cache, then just 
trade something according to the geocache guidelines.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=281193220-01082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=281193220-01082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>that's 
my 2 cents</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=281193220-01082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=281193220-01082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Denny</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=281193220-01082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Tres 
Hombres</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> IFISHAZ@aol.com 
  [mailto:IFISHAZ@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 01, 2003 1:22 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] 
  Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT 
  face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Ok, I 
  could probably see that if the person was helping maintain the cache it could 
  be ok, but without naming names, I know of a couple of cachers who do not help 
  maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the cache page taking of the bug (only 
  logs to the bug page), makes no trades for the bug thus lowering the inventory 
  of the cache. Hense showing only an interest in getting bugs out of the cache 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 21:28:52 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 14:28:52 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
Message-ID: <3F2ADB94.3090806@mchsi.com>

I have no problems with a person re-visiting a cache to pick up a T.B 
but I should hope that they post a note to the log saying they do so.  I 
also have no qualms about a cache being re-visited in order to drop off 
a T.B.  I, personally, (with a couple of exceptions) don't go "hunting" 
for specific T.B.' s like some people do but, whenever I find a bug in a 
cache, I will take it-- and if there is more than one T.B. in it I will 
usually take them all. Half the fun of Travel Bugs is taking them home 
and finding out where they've been and where they are going.  And I've 
never considered a T.B. as a "trading item."  A T.B. is a _Travel_ Bug, 
and by definition, is meant to _TRAVEL_!  Sometimes I will trade a T.B. 
for another T.B., if I have one in my possession, but I don't feel 
obligated to leave a trading item if I take a T.B. from a cache.

-- Sprocket


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 21:24:28 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Rob Brinkerhoff)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:24:28 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
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Personally, I do not think of TBs as of object for trade.
The sole intent of a TB is to travel. I treat finding a TB
as I do finding a cache. I've taken several bugs out of a
single cache and I've returned to a cache that I've visited
before to retrieve a TB. Likewise, I will dropped several
TBs of at single cache and I will revisit a cache to just to
drop of a TB. I always note at the cache what I have done in
the logbook and on the webpage. I think finding a TB is like
logging a first find at a cache. Early bird gets the worm
type of thing. Nobody complains when a single cacher bags
several first finds the same day. If one feels that one must
trade TBs, how does one acquire ones first TB?

I can see why some do not like this behavior. There have
been many times that I've gone for a cache hoping to grab a
TB, only to have just missed it by an hour. Oh, well. I am
bummed for about 1 msec and start digging for the log. To me
that is part of the fun! It is like opening a log book
hoping to be the first finder only to find a fellow cachers
name in it (Uhmmm, I won't mention any names). Even more
fun!

-Rob (Wily Javelina)

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: IFISHAZ@aol.com
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:03 PM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over
to get a TB?


  Hi all IFISHAZ here,
  Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public
debate (if it has had debate before, sorry it was before I
became a geocacher). What is your (other cachers) feelings
on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very
repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel
Bug? I personally think it is wrong, once you have found a
cache there is no fun / adventure / difficulty, to keep
going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know
where it is to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to
that cache having a legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts
down potential new visitors to a cache who may have went
looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has
been there before takes it. I think that finding geocaches
should be the main goal and if you get a TB when you find a
cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches so you can locate them
and rush straight to them when a TB has been placed and grab
it.
  Just my opinion, IFISHAZ.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>-Rob (Wily Javelina)</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  1 22:49:38 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bell, Robert)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 15:49:38 -0700
Subject: FW: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
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I couldn't have said it better, and as an owner of a travel bug cache, a lot
of similiar voices
have been posted there as well.  
 
On rare occasions I have gone back to a cache specifically for a bug, but
usually I might adjust
my cache search route to do a new cache that has a bug in it.    That was
the original intent of
the TB cache I placed when it was first hidden, and that primarily people
would have a chance to find a bug
that hadn't found one before.   Unfortunately some cachers have visited the
cache many, many times,
and had, in my opinion, much more than their fair share.  
 
I can speak from experience that my travel bug cache requires a lot more
maintenance because
of the tendency of a few to remove travel bugs with out exchanging, yet few
people leave TBs without
taking something in return.   And if the few do this repeatedly, I sometimes
have a hard time keeping
up.
 
My $.02
Rob, Team CHUMP
 
-----Original Message-----
From: IFISHAZ@aol.com [mailto:IFISHAZ@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:22 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?



Ok, I could probably see that if the person was helping maintain the cache
it could be ok, but without naming names, I know of a couple of cachers who
do not help maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the cache page taking of
the bug (only logs to the bug page), makes no trades for the bug thus
lowering the inventory of the cache. Hense showing only an interest in
getting bugs out of the cache with not much concern for the cache or cache
owner. This is where I am having a problem seeing it as ok.
Once again just my opinion, IFISHAZ. 


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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>I couldn't have 
said it better, and as an owner of a travel bug cache, a lot of similiar 
voices</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>have been posted 
there as well.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=312401422-01082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>On rare occasions I 
have gone back to a cache specifically for a bug, but&nbsp;usually I might 
adjust</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>my cache search 
route to do a new cache that has a bug in it.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; That was the 
original intent of</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>the TB cache I 
placed when it was first hidden, and that primarily people would have a chance 
to find a bug</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>that hadn't found 
one before.&nbsp;&nbsp; Unfortunately some cachers have visited the cache many, 
many times,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>and had, in my 
opinion, much more </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=312401422-01082003>than their fair share.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I can speak from experience that my travel bug cache requires a lot more 
maintenance because</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>of the tendency of 
a few to remove travel bugs with out exchanging, yet few people leave TBs 
without</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>taking something in 
return.&nbsp;&nbsp; And if the few do this repeatedly, I sometimes have a hard 
time keeping</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=312401422-01082003>up.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=312401422-01082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>My 
$.02</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003>Rob, Team 
CHUMP</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=312401422-01082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=312401422-01082003></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> IFISHAZ@aol.com 
[mailto:IFISHAZ@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 01, 2003 1:22 
PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] 
Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 
  FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Ok, I could probably see that if the person was helping 
  maintain the cache it could be ok, but without naming names, I know of a 
  couple of cachers who do not help maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the 
  cache page taking of the bug (only logs to the bug page), makes no trades for 
  the bug thus lowering the inventory of the cache. Hense showing only an 
  interest in getting bugs out of the cache with not much concern for the cache 
  or cache owner. This is where I am having a problem seeing it as ok.<BR>Once 
  again just my opinion, IFISHAZ.</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  2 00:02:11 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:02:11 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
Message-ID: <20030802000213.VIGQ13554.fed1mtao04.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

I don't see a problem with it at all.  Travelbugs IMHO are not a 'trade' item per se, because they move from cache to cache with a specific purpose (unlike used golf balls, which end up in the drink at the local golf course).  I've dropped by a few places just to pick up a TB to move it around, because I enjoy that aspect of geocaching.  Helping further the TB on its goal doesn't necessarily include the requirement that one must continually trade something to help it along.

Now, a cacher visiting a cache just to pick up a TB is very much helping maintain it.  When visiting a cache, cachers tend to note the condition of the cache, and if the container is degrading or has been plundered, it's usually reported, thus helping to maintain the cache.  As a previous cacher stated, if they held onto a TB for too long for <insert reason here>, and revisited a cache already 'found' to drop it off, that's not a problem.  I've helped several cachers out in finding caches I've already found for a multitude of reasons.  It doesn't take away from THEIR game necessarily, but others may disagree with that approach.  To each his/her own I say.

Brian
Team A.I.


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  2 02:59:27 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (GREGG OBUCH)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
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Here's my nickels worth.  Travel bugs are meant to travel, so if a cacher wants to go back to the same cache over and over just to get a TB and then move it to help meet it's goal I don't have a problem with that activity.  I believe, in the case of a cache specifically for travel bugs, a cacher should swap TB for TB.  Personally we have always taken / left only one TB per cache.  As others have stated putting an entry in the logbook and a note on the cache page is the best thing.  This helps both the TB owner and the cache owner.
 
We treat finding a TB as a bonus, not the reason for going to a specific cache.  The Wyle Operatives being an exception.  (Although one of these days we will have to track down Wily's AZ Cipher Key TB, since we cracked the code without it.)  And the only time we have gone back to a cache for a TB is in the case of the Wyle Operatives.  When we've had a TB and been unable to cache for a while, we will put that TB in one of our caches just to keep it moving.  We will also do this when we've picked up a TB and brought it back to Tucson and want to keep it moving.
 
Gregg of MO & GO 

IFISHAZ@aol.com wrote:
Hi all IFISHAZ here,
Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it has had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What is your (other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel Bug? I personally think it is wrong, once you have found a cache there is no fun / adventure / difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know where it is to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to that cache having a legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache who may have went looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has been there before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main goal and if you get a TB when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches so you can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has been placed and grab it.
Just my opinion, IFISHAZ. 

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<DIV>Here's my nickels worth.&nbsp; Travel bugs are meant to travel, so if a cacher wants to go back to the same cache over and over just to get a TB <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000>and</FONT></STRONG> then move it to help&nbsp;meet it's goal I don't have a problem with that activity.&nbsp;&nbsp;I believe, in the case of a cache&nbsp;specifically for travel bugs, a cacher should&nbsp;swap TB for TB.&nbsp; Personally we have always taken / left only one TB per cache.&nbsp; As others have stated putting an entry in the logbook and a note on the cache page is the best thing.&nbsp; This helps both the TB owner and the cache owner.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>We treat finding a TB as a bonus, not the reason for going to a specific cache.&nbsp; The Wyle Operatives being an exception.&nbsp; (Although one of these days we will have to track down&nbsp;Wily's AZ Cipher Key&nbsp;TB, since we cracked the code without it.)&nbsp; And the only time we have gone back to a cache for a TB is in the case of the Wyle Operatives.&nbsp; When we've had a TB and been unable to cache for a while, we will put that TB in one of our caches just to keep it moving.&nbsp; We&nbsp;will also do this when we've picked up a TB and brought it back to Tucson and want to keep it moving.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Gregg of MO &amp; GO&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>IFISHAZ@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%"><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Hi all IFISHAZ here,<BR>Ok, well I feel this is a subject that needs some public debate (if it has had debate before, sorry it was before I became a geocacher). What is your (other cachers) feelings on geocachers returning to caches (sometimes very repeatedly) they have found previously just to get a Travel Bug? I personally think it is wrong, once you have found a cache there is no fun / adventure / difficulty, to keep going back to it. Also by returning to a cache you know where it is to get a TB, you cut chances of a new visitor to that cache having a legitimate find of a TB. Also it cuts down potential new visitors to a cache who may have went looking for a bug, but it is gone because a cacher who has been there before takes it. I think that finding geocaches should be the main goal and if you get a TB
 when you find a cache, cool bonus. Not find geocaches so you can locate them and rush straight to them when a TB has been placed and grab it.<BR>Just my opinion, IFISHAZ.</FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  2 16:15:54 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 09:15:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: New Arrival
Message-ID: <20030802091555.18348.h004.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Congrats team Blunder on your new baby boy! The pics were beautiful!
Trisha & Dan
"Lightning" & "VStar"
Prescott


On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:07:22 -0700, "Brian Casteel" wrote:








Congrats TeamBlunder!!!!
 
Brian
Team A.I.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  2 17:52:05 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 10:52:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Mars Approaching (Warning: Off-Topic)
Message-ID: <20030802105207.16599.h010.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Thanks Jim! Fascinating!
Trisha

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:43:04 -0700 (MST), Jim Scotti wrote:

> 
> Hey Trisha,
>    Mars is putting on a great show these nights - bright and red.  I
> saw it
> peeking through the monsoon cloudy skies last night for the first
time
> in a
> week or so!  I'd recommend for all those interested to visit your
local
> planetarium/telescope and get a good look.  Also, keep an eye out for
> a Mars
> Star Party that I'm sure the local amateur astronomy clubs will be
> putting
> on.  They have much better equipment than most people and are usually
> more
> than happy to show off things in the night sky.
>    The best time to view Mars is when it is at its closest which
> happens when
> the Earth and Mars line up on the same side of the sun.  When this
> happens,
> it is called opposition.  The orbits of both Earth and Mars are not
> perfect
> circles, so the distance to Mars during oppositions varies
> considerably.  
> When Mars is near its "perihelion", at its closest approach to the
sun
> each
> Martian year to the sun (which is 687 Earth days long) it is only 207
> million
> kilometers from the sun but when at its aphelion, at its farthest
from
> the
> sun, it is about 250 million kilometers from the sun (compared to
> Earths
> average distance from the sun of about 150 million kilometers).  By
> comparison, Earth's orbit is much more circular ranging from 147.5 to
> 152.5
> million kilometers from the Sun.  So, whenever the Earth and Mars
line
> up,
> which happens about every 780 days, the distance between them can
vary
> between 100 million kilometers if Mars it near its aphelion and about
> 57
> million kilometers when Mars is near its perihelion when aligned with
> Earth.  
> It just so happens that this next month, Mars will be near its
> perihelion
> when it passes through opposition so it will be near its closest
> possible
> approach to Earth and therefore bigger and brighter than during most
> other
> Martian oppositions, so enjoy the show!  Also, Earth is close to its
> aphelion
> (which happens in July), so that makes a difference of a couple
million
> kilometers (small change compared to the affects of Mars eccentric
> orbit on
> the story, but significant enough).
>    If you really want to see Mars up close, check out the Mars Global
> Surveyor webpage - there are lots of wonderful places that I'd like
to
> hide
> geocaches on Mars - imagine a hike to the bottom of Valis Marinaris,
a
> canyon
> larger than our Grand Canyon or to the top of Olympus Mons, the
largest
> mountain in the Solar System.  Here's a URL that will allow you to
> browse
> through some of those wonderful pictures:
> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/ - if
> you click the top link labeled "MOC Images with Captions..." to see
> some of
> the best examples which are released as "pictures of the day".  These
> pictures have really changed my view of Mars from one of a distant
> planet
> with images from earlier spacecraft that made it look a lot like our
> own moon
> looks through a telescope to an actual place that you could put
hiking
> boots
> on and go out and explore.  Here's a few interesting images in
> particular:
> 
> http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/07/25/index.html - These are
> a bunch
> of sand dunes that look like fortune cookies and are all very similar
> in
> appearance.
> 
> http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/05/index.html - Mars has
> dust
> devils, just like we see here in Arizona.  Here is a picture of the
> tracks of
> some dust devils across the Martian surface.
> 
> http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/11/index.html - Here are
> some
> gullies on the side of a crater wall.
> 
> http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/06/10/index.html - There's
> also
> frost on Mars, in this case, carbon dioxide frost near the Martian
> poles.  
> And this is a real color image too!
> 
> http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/07/11/index.html - This is a
> view of
> a small canyon feature - is it a crack or water erosion?
> 
> You can also find pix of Mars moon Phobos and a picture of the Earth
> and Moon
> as viewed from Mars if you look around a little bit on these
webpages.
>  Some
> of the images are a bit big, but IMO, they are worth the wait for
> downloading
> and in any case, there are some thumbnails that you can see before
> starting
> the bigger downloads....
>    Any of you geocachers have telescopes?  It might make for a great
> event
> cache one of these nights if so.  I don't have anything bigger than a
> spotting telescope these days - I guess I'm too spoiled using the
> bigger
> telescopes I use every month up on Kitt Peak.
> 
> Jim.
> 
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 trisha@brasher.com wrote:
> 
> > Hey there Jim Scotti!
> > 
> > Any info you can give us about this up coming astronomical event?
It
> > sounds pretty cool!! (With our luck, we will end the 5-year drought
> > with a huge monsoon season and have cloud cover for the next two
> > months!!)
> > 
> > (SPOILER: for those of you who are preterbed by off-topic posts, I
> > posted this to the list on purpose because I... 1) wanted to ask
Jim
> > and 2) thought there might be a number of others on this list who
> > would be interested in astronomy. So, if you are not interested,
just
> > delete this and any other upcoming posts with "Mars" in the title.
> > Simple. Thanks)
> > 
> > Trisha "Lightning"
> > Prescott
> > 
> > INFO:
> > 
> > Never again in our lifetime will the Red Planet look so
> > spectacular!
> > 
> > This month and next Earth is catching up with Mars, an
> > encounter that will culminate in the closest approach between the
two
> > planets in recorded history. The next time Mars may come this close
> is
> > in 2287.
> > 
> > Due to the way Jupiter's gravity tugs on Mars and perturbs
> > its orbit, astronomers can only be certain that Mars has not come
> this
> > close to Earth in the last 5,000 years but it may be as long as
> > 60,000 years. The encounter will culminate on August 27th when Mars
> > comes to within 34,649,589 miles and will be (next to the moon) the
> > brightest object in the night sky. It will attain a magnitude of
-2.9
> > and will appear 25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest 75-power
> > magnification Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked
> > eye.
> > 
> > Mars will be easy to spot. At the beginning of August, Mars will
rise
> > in the east at 10 p.m. and reach its azimuth at about 3 a.m. But by
> > the end of August when the two planets are closest, Mars will rise
> > at nightfall and reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m.
> > That's pretty convenient when it comes to seeing something that no
> > human has seen in recorded history.
> > 
> > So, mark your calendar at the beginning of August to see Mars grow
> > progressively brighter and brighter throughout the month.
> > Share this!
> > 
> > No one alive today will ever see this again.
> > 
> > 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > "Although no one can go back and
> > make a brand new start,
> > Anyone can start from now and
> > make a brand new ending."
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> > 
> 
> Jim Scotti
> Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                
> http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/    
> 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  2 17:59:10 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 10:59:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?
Message-ID: <20030802105912.10951.h010.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Oh, geez, Andy, that is a real disappointment!!
Sorry that happened to you.
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:40:47 -0700, "Andrew Ayre" wrote:






If I 
had a bug that was stuck in a cache that was not frequently visited, I
would 
probably appreciate the bug being removed by anyone to continue it's
journey. A 
posting of a note to the cache page will indicate at a minimum to the
cache 
owner that the cache is there still. Also there are some travel bugs
that are a 
game in itself, like the Wyle Operatives. I'm yet to be convinced
people taking 
the bug out of a cache causes anyone harm. I think far more harmful
are those 
who hold onto bugs for too long or who take them but can't figure out
how to 
record on the web site that they took them.
 
I tell 
you what IS dissapointing in my opinion. Finding a travel bug in Rocky
Point 
that wants to go to England. Asking the bug owner if they mind me
holding on to 
it for 2 months until I go over there. Taking it over there in my hand
luggage 
so the airline can't lose it. Waiting for the day I can go caching to
put it 
somewhere. Going out on the most awful English summer day you can
imagine to put 
it in a cache that is behind a mountain of sea buckthorn that I had to
wade 
through and get soaking wet. Then finding out the cache was stolen
along with 
the travel bug some time after our visit. :(
Andy

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  IFISHAZ@aol.comSent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:22 
  PMTo: listserv@azgeocaching.comSubject: [Az-Geocaching] 
  Revisiting caches over and over to get a TB?Ok, I 
  could probably see that if the person was helping maintain the cache
it could 
  be ok, but without naming names, I know of a couple of cachers who
do not help 
  maintain the cache, doesn't even log on the cache page taking of the
bug (only 
  logs to the bug page), makes no trades for the bug thus lowering the
inventory 
  of the cache. Hense showing only an interest in getting bugs out of
the cache 
  with not much concern for the cache or cache owner. This is where I
am having 
  a problem seeing it as ok.Once again just my opinion, IFISHAZ. 
  

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug  3 05:37:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Joe Brekke)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 22:37:04 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bug Update
Message-ID: <00f501c35981$49a35500$f950a8c0@default>

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A few days ago when someone had asked the list whether they were wasting =
their money on Travel Bugs...I replied that one of our TB's that had =
over 17,000 had recently come up missing. =20

It was dropped off in the I-70 Palisades Cache (GCG2HA) around Grand =
Junction, CO on Jun 23rd.  I noticed that some people had visited the =
cache after that and had e-mailed one with 850 finds and asked if he had =
seen this Liberty Bell TB...he replied no, and that was around July 6th. =
Someone had picked up the TB and not logged it.=20

I was hopeful that the TB would show up someplace, and I got =
notification today that it did.  The person who found it logged it out =
of the cache in CO, but said that he had actually found it in Nebraska.  =
Looking at his logs, I believe he found it was a cache called Westbound =
(GCECBB), just outside of Lincoln, NE.  So someone, (don't know who), =
gave it an ~ 650 mile ride.  In the log, the finder said he saw the TB =
sitting outside the cache box.

Point is, I've learned not to give up on TB's.  This is the 3rd time =
this one has "disappeared"...only to turn up again.  And after logging =
over 17,000 miles, I'm glad that it will continue its travels.  I don't =
know why people take Travel Bugs and don't log them, then dump them =
somewhere and again not logging it.  Seems when they do this they are at =
least making a few Geocaching finds, and should be able to navigate =
enough to realize what TB's are and log them proplerly.  But for some =
reason it seems that some people don't log them.  In other recent TB =
subject matter that has also been discussed so I won't go into detail =
other than that it happens, and fairly often.

I didn't see any commonality in the teams that logged both caches.  I =
guess there are people out there who don't log their finds either.  =
That's ok with me, there's really nothing that says people have to log =
their finds on the site, and they shouldn't have to - plus I would say =
there's no way to police that anyway.  However, if that's the case, they =
really shouldn't be taking Travel Bugs, in my opinion anyway...the goal =
of a TB IS to be logged.  But, I'm glad whoever had taken our TB at =
least put it back into the game.

Joe
TeamBlunder

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A few days ago when someone had asked =
the list=20
whether they were wasting their money on Travel Bugs...I replied that =
one of our=20
TB's that had over 17,000 had recently come up missing.&nbsp; =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It was dropped off in the I-70 =
Palisades Cache=20
(GCG2HA) around Grand Junction, CO&nbsp;on Jun 23rd.&nbsp; I noticed =
that some=20
people had visited the cache after that and had e-mailed one with 850 =
finds and=20
asked if he had seen this Liberty Bell TB...he replied no, and that was =
around=20
July 6th. Someone had picked up the TB and not logged it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was hopeful that the TB would show up =
someplace,=20
and I got notification today that it did.&nbsp; The person who found it =
logged=20
it out of the cache in CO, but said that he had actually found it in=20
Nebraska.&nbsp; Looking at his logs, I believe he found it was a cache =
called=20
Westbound (GCECBB), just outside of Lincoln, NE.&nbsp; So someone, =
(don't know=20
who), gave it an ~ 650 mile ride.&nbsp; In the log, the finder said he =
saw the=20
TB sitting outside the cache box.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Point is, I've learned not to give up =
on=20
TB's.&nbsp; This is the 3rd time this one has "disappeared"...only to =
turn up=20
again.&nbsp; And after logging over 17,000 miles, I'm glad that it will =
continue=20
its travels.&nbsp; I don't know why people take Travel Bugs and don't =
log them,=20
then dump them somewhere and again not logging it.&nbsp; Seems when they =
do this=20
they are at least making a few Geocaching finds, and should be able to =
navigate=20
enough to realize what TB's are and log them proplerly.&nbsp; But for =
some=20
reason it seems that some people don't log them.&nbsp; In other recent =
TB=20
subject matter that has also been discussed so I won't go into detail =
other than=20
that it happens, and fairly often.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I didn't see any commonality in the =
teams that=20
logged both caches.&nbsp; I guess there are people out there who don't =
log their=20
finds either.&nbsp; That's ok with me, there's really nothing that says =
people=20
have to log their finds on the site, and they shouldn't have to - plus I =
would=20
say there's no way to police that anyway.&nbsp;&nbsp;However, if that's =
the=20
case, they really shouldn't be taking Travel Bugs, in my opinion =
anyway...the=20
goal of a TB IS to be logged.&nbsp; But, I'm glad whoever had taken our =
TB at=20
least put it back into the game.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Joe</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug  3 08:19:19 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 01:19:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] education of state parks personel
Message-ID: <20030803081919.56520.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com>

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Geocaching received the following from a state parks and rec person who is eager to learn about geocaching in Tucson. Can someone spare some time for this?
 
http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4416058331&m=95760547


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<DIV>Geocaching received the following from a state parks and rec person who is eager to learn about geocaching in Tucson. Can someone spare some time for this?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&amp;s=5726007311&amp;f=4416058331&amp;m=95760547">http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&amp;s=5726007311&amp;f=4416058331&amp;m=95760547</A></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug  3 11:14:19 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 04:14:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] another missing cache on the stats page
Message-ID: <20030803111419.52761.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com>

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Hi,
 
As always, we appreciate all the fine and hard work you do to maintain the website for our fun. 
 
I noticed our latest find, Desert Giant GCG95J  was not listed on our team stats. Just out of curiosity, I looked up other recent finders of that cache (Brian from AI and Binskeep) Their stats do not list Desert Giant either. The cache was not archived so I don't know why it wasn't counted in our finds.


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<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As always, we appreciate all the fine and hard work you do to maintain the website for our fun. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I noticed our latest find, Desert Giant <FONT face=Verdana><SPAN id=WaypointName>GCG95J</SPAN>&nbsp; was not listed on our team stats. Just out of curiosity, I looked up other recent finders of that cache (Brian from AI and Binskeep) Their stats do not list Desert Giant either. The cache was not archived so I don't know why it wasn't counted in our finds.</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug  3 15:18:10 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:18:10 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Blunder: A special day tomorrow!
In-Reply-To: <00a201c357bc$ea5038e0$f950a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <00e801c359d2$7321b920$1e01a8c0@connie>

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Joe and family,
Congratulations on Harmon's arrival! Thank you so much for the pictures
also. Love pictures.
Team "Wyle E"
Larry and Connie and family


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug  3 16:41:39 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:41:39 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] education of state parks personel
In-Reply-To: <20030803081919.56520.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001801c359de$1d34fed0$9001a8c0@NOTEBOOK>

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=20

Geocaching received the following from a state parks and rec person who =
is
eager to learn about geocaching in Tucson. Can someone spare some time =
for
this?

=20

http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc
<http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D441605833=
1&m=3D95760
547> &s=3D5726007311&f=3D4416058331&m=3D95760547

=20

This sounds suspiciously like something we've already taken care of, =
doesn't
it, Jim Scotti? Do you want to get in touch with "Rothstafari" and find =
out
who's making this request, or would you like me to handle it for you?

=20

Steve

Team Tierra Buena


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something we&#8217;ve
already taken care of, doesn&#8217;t it, Jim Scotti? Do you want to get =
in
touch with &#8220;Rothstafari&#8221; and find out who&#8217;s making =
this
request, or would you like me to handle it for you?</span></font></p>

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug  5 00:45:10 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:45:10 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin Legend
Message-ID: <4DA6AB1D.20365343.0013DAD2@aol.com>

I have a Garmin Legend New in Box for sale. $160.00. I've never used it, I bought it because Mary lost hers a few months ago and since it was a gift from my mother she was pretty upset. I ordered it and the day I got it we found hers. So I've never had it out of the box. Email me or call me @ 602-269-1817 (during the day)
Cameron (Budcam & Mary)

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug  5 01:44:40 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Burkett)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:44:40 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Sometimes My Emap Doesn't Beep
In-Reply-To: <4DA6AB1D.20365343.0013DAD2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <IJEGJOIGCGEGCIDEFOGPIEFGCJAA.wburkett@yahoo.com>

I have my Garmin eMap set to beep when it displays a message, such as when
we're approaching a "turn" (a waypoint, really).  But, sometimes it beeps
and sometimes it doesn't.  It will even be inconsistent with consecutive
waypoints in a single route.

Anyone know of any settings or waypoint properties I might have missed
setting?



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug  6 05:33:52 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:33:52 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race Is On...
Message-ID: <001001c35bdc$5203f670$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

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Well ladies/germs, Magellan has done it.  They have a cache in Arizona, =
details soon.

Brian
Team A.I.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well ladies/germs, Magellan has done =
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have a cache in Arizona, details soon.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug  6 18:58:03 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 11:58:03 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race Is On...
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Brian,

I'm sending this to you since I cannot send anything to the listserv. =
All I get are delivery failure messages.=20

I saw this on the news tonight. They showed the guy hiding the chest. I =
know what the terrain looks like and sortof where it is. Please post =
this to the list serv since you clearly are able to do so. Please let =
the azgeocaching folks know that something is up with the listserv.


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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I'm sending this to you since I cannot send anything to the =
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get are delivery failure messages. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I saw this on the news tonight. They showed the guy hiding the =
chest. I=20
know what the terrain looks like and sortof where it is. Please post =
this to the=20
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azgeocaching folks=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug  6 21:06:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:06:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] test
Message-ID: <20030806210642.70166.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com>

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test


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>test</DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug  6 21:20:34 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:20:34 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] test
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  test



  Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
    On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
  "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
    "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug  6 21:21:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:21:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] test number 2
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Okay, my last test didn't do anything at all, so I'm going to try again. 
 
To keep this on subject, I saw the thing on Channel 12 news about the Magellan contest. I hope this one is better than the Pittsburg cache.


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>Okay, my last test didn't do anything at all, so I'm going to try again. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>To keep this on subject, I saw the thing on Channel 12 news about the Magellan contest. I hope this one is better than the Pittsburg cache.</DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug  6 21:33:25 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 17:33:25 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] test
Message-ID: <551F8A4E.15D5D457.0013DAD2@aol.com>

I got it over here.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug  7 08:13:48 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 01:13:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] unusual caches
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Check this one out. This is difficult and kind of strange. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=81542
 
This cacher is a bit mental perhaps. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?pf=&ID=73460&decrypt=y&log=
 
 


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>Check this one out. This is difficult and kind of strange. <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=81542">http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=81542</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This cacher is a bit mental perhaps. <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?pf=&amp;ID=73460&amp;decrypt=y&amp;log">http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?pf=&amp;ID=73460&amp;decrypt=y&amp;log</A>=</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug  7 16:21:09 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jim Scotti)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:21:09 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] unusual caches
In-Reply-To: <20030807081348.26020.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0308070920050.19128-100000@arjuna.lpl.arizona.edu>

Looks like it's been archived by a geocaching administrator.....  It sounds
like a pretty lousy cache in any case.

Jim.

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Gale Draper wrote:

> Check this one out. This is difficult and kind of strange. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=81542
>  
> This cacher is a bit mental perhaps. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?pf=&ID=73460&decrypt=y&log=
>  
>  
> 
> 
> Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
>   On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
> "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
>   "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
> 
>  
> 
> Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug  7 22:54:14 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Koch, Dan)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 15:54:14 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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No conversation about the Magellan hunt?  I would have figured for sure that
it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown
thread!
 
I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving
me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.
Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...
 
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<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No 
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it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown 
thread!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm a 
bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving me no 
chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.&nbsp; Entropy 
will have been achieved by the time I get there...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug  7 23:01:17 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:01:17 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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I'm kinda surprised myself, but oh well.  I think the thread/conversation is taking place on the Magellan cache page.  It's kinda funny if you think about it.  They've managed to bungle the heck out of this one, among the others.  You'd have thought they would have learned by now, and been a bit more diligent in their research/preparation.  From what I understand about the news story, the marketing goon picked someplace somewhat at random.

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: "Koch, Dan" <Dan.Koch@Eclipsys.com>
> Date: 2003/08/07 Thu PM 06:54:14 EDT
> To: "'listserv@azgeocaching.com'" <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
> 
> No conversation about the Magellan hunt?  I would have figured for sure that
> it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown
> thread!
>  
> I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving
> me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.
> Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...
>  
> LazyK - Dan
>  
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<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No 
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it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown 
thread!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm a 
bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving me no 
chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.&nbsp; Entropy 
will have been achieved by the time I get there...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug  7 23:05:17 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:05:17 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] unusual caches
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 Kind of strange!!!???  I'm wondering how that Kanai Peninsula cache even=
 got past the admin . . . and then last the three weeks that it did befor=
e it got archived?

Mental is putting it lightly for the Holy CRAP!! peak cache.

The placer for both of these caches, meticulousmike, I would say is stran=
ge and mental!!!!  [;)]

RandMan

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From: Gale Draper
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:18 AM
To: list
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] unusual caches

Check this one out. This is difficult and kind of strange. http://www.geo=
caching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D81542

This cacher is a bit mental perhaps. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache=
_details.aspx?pf=3D&ID=3D73460&decrypt=3Dy&log=3D

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug  7 23:08:43 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:08:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS stuff.

bcasteel@cox.net wrote:I'm kinda surprised myself, but oh well. I think the thread/conversation is taking place on the Magellan cache page. It's kinda funny if you think about it. They've managed to bungle the heck out of this one, among the others. You'd have thought they would have learned by now, and been a bit more diligent in their research/preparation. From what I understand about the news story, the marketing goon picked someplace somewhat at random.

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: "Koch, Dan" 
> Date: 2003/08/07 Thu PM 06:54:14 EDT
> To: "'listserv@azgeocaching.com'" 

> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
> 
> No conversation about the Magellan hunt? I would have figured for sure that
> it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown
> thread!
> 
> I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving
> me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.
> Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...
> 
> LazyK - Dan
> 
> 
> 
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I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.  Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...
 
LazyK - Dan
 



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS stuff.<BR><BR><B><I>bcasteel@cox.net</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">I'm kinda surprised myself, but oh well. I think the thread/conversation is taking place on the Magellan cache page. It's kinda funny if you think about it. They've managed to bungle the heck out of this one, among the others. You'd have thought they would have learned by now, and been a bit more diligent in their research/preparation. From what I understand about the news story, the marketing goon picked someplace somewhat at random.<BR><BR>Brian<BR>Team A.I.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: "Koch, Dan" <DAN.KOCH@ECLIPSYS.COM><BR>&gt; Date: 2003/08/07 Thu PM 06:54:14 EDT<BR>&gt; To: "'listserv@azgeocaching.com'" <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>&gt; Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; No conversation about the Magellan hunt? I would have figured for sure that<BR>&gt; it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown<BR>&gt;
 thread!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving<BR>&gt; me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.<BR>&gt; Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; LazyK - Dan<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No conversation about the Magellan hunt?&nbsp; I would have figured for sure that it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown thread!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.&nbsp; Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>LazyK - Dan</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug  7 23:19:51 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:19:51 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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I'm not so sure that's the basis for their marketing campaign though...half those people can barely drive their Lincoln Giganto's and Ford Exorbitants while watching DVDs on their drop down LCD screens. How do you expect them to understand what a GPS map display is telling them?</sarcasm>

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: Gale Draper <sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2003/08/07 Thu PM 07:08:43 EDT
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
> 
> Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS stuff.
> 
> bcasteel@cox.net wrote:I'm kinda surprised myself, but oh well. I think the thread/conversation is taking place on the Magellan cache page. It's kinda funny if you think about it. They've managed to bungle the heck out of this one, among the others. You'd have thought they would have learned by now, and been a bit more diligent in their research/preparation. From what I understand about the news story, the marketing goon picked someplace somewhat at random.
> 
> Brian
> Team A.I.
> > 
> > From: "Koch, Dan" 
> > Date: 2003/08/07 Thu PM 06:54:14 EDT
> > To: "'listserv@azgeocaching.com'" 
> 
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
> > 
> > No conversation about the Magellan hunt? I would have figured for sure that
> > it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown
> > thread!
> > 
> > I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving
> > me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.
> > Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...
> > 
> > LazyK - Dan
> > 
> > 
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>  
> I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.  Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...
>  
> LazyK - Dan
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
>   On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
> "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
>   "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
> 
>  
> 
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<DIV>Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS stuff.<BR><BR><B><I>bcasteel@cox.net</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">I'm kinda surprised myself, but oh well. I think the thread/conversation is taking place on the Magellan cache page. It's kinda funny if you think about it. They've managed to bungle the heck out of this one, among the others. You'd have thought they would have learned by now, and been a bit more diligent in their research/preparation. From what I understand about the news story, the marketing goon picked someplace somewhat at random.<BR><BR>Brian<BR>Team A.I.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: "Koch, Dan" <DAN.KOCH@ECLIPSYS.COM><BR>&gt; Date: 2003/08/07 Thu PM 06:54:14 EDT<BR>&gt; To: "'listserv@azgeocaching.com'" <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>&gt; Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; No conversation about the Magellan hunt? I would have figured for sure that<BR>&gt; it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown<BR>&gt;
 thread!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving<BR>&gt; me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.<BR>&gt; Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; LazyK - Dan<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No conversation about the Magellan hunt?&nbsp; I would have figured for sure that it would have generated at least a couple of comments, if not a full-blown thread!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm a bit disappointed, though, as I'll be out of town this weekend, leaving me no chance of finding the little bugger while any goodies still exist.&nbsp; Entropy will have been achieved by the time I get there...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>LazyK - Dan</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=098305122-07082003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug  7 23:54:11 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:54:11 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Gale called this one right (on the Magellan page) at 12:07 A.M. (AZ time)=
 when she predicted the McDowells!  Good call Gale! . . . even though you=
r tongue was buried deep into your cheek at the time!  [;)]

I don't have mapping on my system, but I'm curious about how far the McDo=
wells are from Phoenix capitol?  (Hint #2 stated the cache was 15-20 mile=
s from Phoenix.)

Rand

----- Original Message -----
From: Gale Draper
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:14 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells

Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed i=
t where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 00:11:38 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Koch, Dan)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:11:38 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
Message-ID: <EBF41E098572D2119CAF00805F1991A3036FD76D@tpe-nt-ex1.phx.eclipsnet.com>

Should we start a pool on who will be the first finder?  Might be fun...

Back in the day, I'd have bet the farm on 'Wyle E', then maybe
'AZFirstFind'...uh, I mean 'AZFastFeet'...but these days my money would be
on 'Team AI - Brian'.

Of course, there are hundreds of other cachers out there that we don't know
much about either.

LazyK - Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: RAND HARDIN [mailto:RHrdn8@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:54 PM
To: AZ-Geocaching
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells


Gale called this one right (on the Magellan page) at 12:07 A.M. (AZ time)
when she predicted the McDowells!  Good call Gale! . . . even though your
tongue was buried deep into your cheek at the time!  [;)]

I don't have mapping on my system, but I'm curious about how far the
McDowells are from Phoenix capitol?  (Hint #2 stated the cache was 15-20
miles from Phoenix.)

Rand

----- Original Message -----
From: Gale Draper
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:14 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells

Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it
where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS
stuff.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 00:29:37 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:29:37 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Brian is a good bet unless the coordinates are released while he's at wor=
k.  I wouldn't be surprised though if he's taken the next few days off fr=
om work!  [;)]

Then again, Jeff (Team 360) is another possibility (he mentioned he was u=
nemployed at this time . . . and knowing him I would say he is ready to p=
ounce!).

Rand

----- Original Message -----
From: Koch, Dan
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:14 PM
To: 'listserv@azgeocaching.com'
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells

Should we start a pool on who will be the first finder?  Might be fun...

Back in the day, I'd have bet the farm on 'Wyle E', then maybe
'AZFirstFind'...uh, I mean 'AZFastFeet'...but these days my money would b=
e
on 'Team AI - Brian'.

Of course, there are hundreds of other cachers out there that we don't kn=
ow
much about either.

LazyK - Dan

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 00:34:24 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Brian from A.I. or Team 360, until he goes off to ABQ for the event cache this weekend.

"Koch, Dan" <Dan.Koch@eclipsys.com> wrote:Should we start a pool on who will be the first finder? Might be fun...

Back in the day, I'd have bet the farm on 'Wyle E', then maybe
'AZFirstFind'...uh, I mean 'AZFastFeet'...but these days my money would be
on 'Team AI - Brian'.

Of course, there are hundreds of other cachers out there that we don't know
much about either.

LazyK - Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: RAND HARDIN [mailto:RHrdn8@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:54 PM
To: AZ-Geocaching
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells


Gale called this one right (on the Magellan page) at 12:07 A.M. (AZ time)
when she predicted the McDowells! Good call Gale! . . . even though your
tongue was buried deep into your cheek at the time! [;)]

I don't have mapping on my system, but I'm curious about how far the
McDowells are from Phoenix capitol? (Hint #2 stated the cache was 15-20
miles from Phoenix.)

Rand

----- Original Message -----
From: Gale Draper
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:14 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells

Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it
where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS
stuff.
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<DIV>Brian from A.I. or Team 360, until he goes off to ABQ for the event cache this weekend.<BR><BR><B><I>"Koch, Dan" &lt;Dan.Koch@eclipsys.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Should we start a pool on who will be the first finder? Might be fun...<BR><BR>Back in the day, I'd have bet the farm on 'Wyle E', then maybe<BR>'AZFirstFind'...uh, I mean 'AZFastFeet'...but these days my money would be<BR>on 'Team AI - Brian'.<BR><BR>Of course, there are hundreds of other cachers out there that we don't know<BR>much about either.<BR><BR>LazyK - Dan<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: RAND HARDIN [mailto:RHrdn8@msn.com]<BR>Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:54 PM<BR>To: AZ-Geocaching<BR>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells<BR><BR><BR>Gale called this one right (on the Magellan page) at 12:07 A.M. (AZ time)<BR>when she predicted the McDowells! Good call Gale! . . . even though your<BR>tongue was buried deep into your cheek at the time! [;)]<BR><BR>I don't have mapping on my system, but I'm curious about how far the<BR>McDowells are from Phoenix
 capitol? (Hint #2 stated the cache was 15-20<BR>miles from Phoenix.)<BR><BR>Rand<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Gale Draper<BR>Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:14 PM<BR>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells<BR><BR>Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it<BR>where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS<BR>stuff.<BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the
 Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 00:53:44 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:53:44 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Can someone give me the spread, and who's going to cover it?

:)

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: Gale Draper <sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2003/08/07 Thu PM 08:34:24 EDT
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
> 
> Brian from A.I. or Team 360, until he goes off to ABQ for the event cache this weekend.
> 
> "Koch, Dan" <Dan.Koch@eclipsys.com> wrote:Should we start a pool on who will be the first finder? Might be fun...
> 
> Back in the day, I'd have bet the farm on 'Wyle E', then maybe
> 'AZFirstFind'...uh, I mean 'AZFastFeet'...but these days my money would be
> on 'Team AI - Brian'.
> 
> Of course, there are hundreds of other cachers out there that we don't know
> much about either.
> 
> LazyK - Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RAND HARDIN [mailto:RHrdn8@msn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:54 PM
> To: AZ-Geocaching
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
> 
> 
> Gale called this one right (on the Magellan page) at 12:07 A.M. (AZ time)
> when she predicted the McDowells! Good call Gale! . . . even though your
> tongue was buried deep into your cheek at the time! [;)]
> 
> I don't have mapping on my system, but I'm curious about how far the
> McDowells are from Phoenix capitol? (Hint #2 stated the cache was 15-20
> miles from Phoenix.)
> 
> Rand
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gale Draper
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:14 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
> 
> Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it
> where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS
> stuff.
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> http://www.azgeocaching.com
> 
> 
> Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
>   On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
> "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
>   "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
> 
>  
> 
> Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898
> 
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<DIV>Brian from A.I. or Team 360, until he goes off to ABQ for the event cache this weekend.<BR><BR><B><I>"Koch, Dan" &lt;Dan.Koch@eclipsys.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Should we start a pool on who will be the first finder? Might be fun...<BR><BR>Back in the day, I'd have bet the farm on 'Wyle E', then maybe<BR>'AZFirstFind'...uh, I mean 'AZFastFeet'...but these days my money would be<BR>on 'Team AI - Brian'.<BR><BR>Of course, there are hundreds of other cachers out there that we don't know<BR>much about either.<BR><BR>LazyK - Dan<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: RAND HARDIN [mailto:RHrdn8@msn.com]<BR>Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:54 PM<BR>To: AZ-Geocaching<BR>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells<BR><BR><BR>Gale called this one right (on the Magellan page) at 12:07 A.M. (AZ time)<BR>when she predicted the McDowells! Good call Gale! . . . even though your<BR>tongue was buried deep into your cheek at the time! [;)]<BR><BR>I don't have mapping on my system, but I'm curious about how far the<BR>McDowells are from !
Phoenix
 capitol? (Hint #2 stated the cache was 15-20<BR>miles from Phoenix.)<BR><BR>Rand<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Gale Draper<BR>Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:14 PM<BR>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells<BR><BR>Notice it's in Scottsdale where the money is. They should have marketed it<BR>where more of the cachers are. Where more of us spend our money on GPS<BR>stuff.<BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look beh!
ind the
 Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 01:55:01 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (William Noll)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:55:01 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Since I work this weekend, here's a little help for some others:

The McDowell Sonoran Preserve (no Geocaching allowed) is only a very =
small part of the McDowell Mountains.

Here's the Scottsdale website:
http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/preserve/currenttopics.asp

Here's the official map:
http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/preserve/pdf/overview.pdf

Most is actually a part of the Maricopa County Park System.

Here's their map (it's part topo):

http://www.maricopa.gov/parks/mcdowell/pdf/McDowell_color.pdf

Plan your entrance accordingly, but there is a standard county park =
$5.00 admission fee. This park has famous mountain bike trails. It could =
be a bonus if you pack the Trek (like Lance).

Good luck. Hope this helps!!

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The McDowell Sonoran Preserve (no Geocaching =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Here's their map (it's part topo):</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 15:15:15 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:15:15 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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I'm darned if I'm going to start posting to the Magellan web page, but I =
can
correct one error that's there: Unless the person in McDowell Mountain
Regional Park literally meant "call" (as opposed to "write") for =
permission,
they received a written request for and granted written permission for a
cache hidden in the park in March of this year.

=20

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 15:21:30 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:21:30 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Do you know who it was that made the request in March?

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:15 AM
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  I'm darned if I'm going to start posting to the Magellan web page, but =
I can correct one error that's there: Unless the person in McDowell =
Mountain Regional Park literally meant "call" (as opposed to "write") =
for permission, they received a written request for and granted written =
permission for a cache hidden in the park in March of this year.



  Steve

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 15:34:22 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Team Tierra Buena)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:34:22 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Do you know who it was that made the request in March?

 

Intimately ;-)

 

IOW, me.

 

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 15:40:29 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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pffft!  Smart-aleck.

BTW, I just got the following e-mail from Magellan:

Hello,
I obviously cannot reveal much information to you due to the contest but =
I can assure you that the cache was not hidden in an off-limits area.

Lisa Lockwood

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Team Tierra Buena=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:34 AM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells




  Do you know who it was that made the request in March?



    Intimately ;-)



    IOW, me.



    Steve

    Team Tierra Buena

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pffft!&nbsp; Smart-aleck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTW, I just got the following e-mail =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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obviously cannot reveal much information to you due to the contest but I =
can=20
assure you that the cache was not hidden in an off-limits=20
area.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D402173515-08082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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Lockwood</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 15:46:12 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:46:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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And we can all assume they have gotten their act together after Pittsburg.

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; }P.MsoNormal {	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}LI.MsoNormal {	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}DIV.MsoNormal {	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}A:link {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlink {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}A:visited {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.emailstyle17 {	COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}SPAN.EmailStyle18 {	COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}DIV.Section1 {	page: Section1}pffft!  Smart-aleck.
 
BTW, I just got the following e-mail from Magellan:
 
Hello,
I obviously cannot reveal much information to you due to the contest but I can assure you that the cache was not hidden in an off-limits area.
 
Lisa Lockwood
 
Brian
Team A.I.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Team Tierra Buena 
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells



 

Do you know who it was that made the request in March?

 


Intimately ;-)

 

IOW, me.

 

Steve

Team Tierra Buena





Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>And we can all assume they have gotten their act together after Pittsburg.<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>pffft!&nbsp; Smart-aleck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, I just got the following e-mail from Magellan:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>Hello,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>I obviously cannot reveal much information to you due to the contest but I can assure you that the cache was not hidden in an off-limits area.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>Lisa Lockwood</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>Brian</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>Team A.I.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=TeamTierraBuena@earthlink.net href="mailto:TeamTierraBuena@earthlink.net">Team Tierra Buena</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 08, 2003 8:34 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you know who it was that made the request in March?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IOW, me.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Steve</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Team Tierra Buena</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 15:50:33 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
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Yes, they have.  I just received a follow-up e-mail from the same person =
at Magellan, and I am assured that things will go quite smoothly this =
time.  Hopefully they are correct.  :)  Will they post the coords before =
I have to leave for work, or not?

Brian
Team A.I.


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells


  And we can all assume they have gotten their act together after =
Pittsburg.

  Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote: pffft!  Smart-aleck.

    BTW, I just got the following e-mail from Magellan:

    Hello,
    I obviously cannot reveal much information to you due to the contest =
but I can assure you that the cache was not hidden in an off-limits =
area.

    Lisa Lockwood

    Brian
    Team A.I.
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Team Tierra Buena=20
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:34 AM
      Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells




      Do you know who it was that made the request in March?



        Intimately ;-)



        IOW, me.



        Steve

        Team Tierra Buena



  Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
    On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
  "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
    "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

  Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dsonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com=20
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  =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pffft!&nbsp; =
Smart-aleck.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTW, I just got the following =
e-mail from=20
    Magellan:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D402173515-08082003>Hello,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D402173515-08082003>I=20
    obviously cannot reveal much information to you due to the contest =
but I can=20
    assure you that the cache was not hidden in an off-limits=20
    area.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D402173515-08082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D402173515-08082003>Lisa Lockwood</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D402173515-08082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D402173515-08082003>Brian</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D402173515-08082003>Team A.I.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3DTeamTierraBuena@earthlink.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:TeamTierraBuena@earthlink.net">Team Tierra =
Buena</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 08, =
2003 8:34=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching] Magellan=20
      and the McDowells</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DSection1>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
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face=3DArial=20
      size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do =
you know who=20
      it was that made the request in March?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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        color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Intimately=20
        ;-)</SPAN></FONT></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IOW,=20
        me.</SPAN></FONT></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Steve</SPAN></FONT></P>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Team =
Tierra=20
        =
Buena</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE=
></DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang =
interminable=20
  changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- =

  so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the =
Ranges=20
  --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for =
you.=20
  Go!"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV></DIV>
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  1898</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 15:58:20 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 08:58:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
In-Reply-To: <01ea01c35dc4$cd555280$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
Message-ID: <20030808155820.22484.qmail@web14806.mail.yahoo.com>

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Any guesses about team 360's comment regarding saguaro?

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:Yes, they have.  I just received a follow-up e-mail from the same person at Magellan, and I am assured that things will go quite smoothly this time.  Hopefully they are correct.  :)  Will they post the coords before I have to leave for work, or not?
 
Brian
Team A.I.
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Gale Draper 
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells


And we can all assume they have gotten their act together after Pittsburg.

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote: @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; }P.MsoNormal {	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}LI.MsoNormal {	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}DIV.MsoNormal {	FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"}A:link {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlink {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}A:visited {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {	COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.emailstyle17 {	COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}SPAN.EmailStyle18 {	COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}DIV.Section1 {	page: Section1}pffft!  Smart-aleck.
 
BTW, I just got the following e-mail from Magellan:
 
Hello,
I obviously cannot reveal much information to you due to the contest but I can assure you that the cache was not hidden in an off-limits area.
 
Lisa Lockwood
 
Brian
Team A.I.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Team Tierra Buena 
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells



 

Do you know who it was that made the request in March?

 


Intimately ;-)

 

IOW, me.

 

Steve

Team Tierra Buena





Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>Any guesses about team 360's comment regarding saguaro?<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, they have.&nbsp; I just received a follow-up e-mail from the same person at Magellan, and I am assured that things will go quite smoothly this time.&nbsp; Hopefully they are correct.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; Will they post the coords before I have to leave for work, or not?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com href="mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com">Gale Draper</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 08, 2003 8:46 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>And we can all assume they have gotten their act together after Pittsburg.<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;<A href="mailto:bcasteel@cox.net">bcasteel@cox.net</A>&gt;</I></B> wrote: 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>pffft!&nbsp; Smart-aleck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, I just got the following e-mail from Magellan:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>Hello,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>I obviously cannot reveal much information to you due to the contest but I can assure you that the cache was not hidden in an off-limits area.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>Lisa Lockwood</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>Brian</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=402173515-08082003>Team A.I.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=TeamTierraBuena@earthlink.net href="mailto:TeamTierraBuena@earthlink.net">Team Tierra Buena</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 08, 2003 8:34 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you know who it was that made the request in March?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Intimately ;-)</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IOW, me.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Steve</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Team Tierra Buena</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV>
<P>
<HR SIZE=1>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 16:04:57 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:04:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
In-Reply-To: <01ea01c35dc4$cd555280$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
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Is there a Seguaro road/street? Then the intersection of that and the 101 or 101st St is the cache site.


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV><BR><BR>Is there a Seguaro road/street? Then the intersection of that and the 101 or 101st St is the cache site.</DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 16:18:00 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:18:00 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells
In-Reply-To: <20030808160457.96439.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIEEFCDLAA.andy@britishideas.com>

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Closest I can find is Segura Ave. Off Mountain Road south of Elliot. Near
the GM Proving Grounds.

Andy



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[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Gale
Draper
  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:05 AM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan and the McDowells




  Is there a Seguaro road/street? Then the intersection of that and the 101
or 101st St is the cache site.



  Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
    On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
  "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
    "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

  Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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  Draper<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 08, 2003 9:05 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 17:16:03 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:16:03 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Munged stats?
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Yikes.  A few days ago, I had 19 out of state finds, with the 424 =
in-state finds.  Suddenly, a portion of Arizona appears to have been =
annexed to another state as 51 caches now appear OOS.  Any ideas?

Brian
Team A.I.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 17:27:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Munged stats?
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So who put 36 caches as member's only caches? Here we are at 195 caches, so close to the 2 century mark, and now we've dropped to 159. Is it time to play "find the missing caches?"

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:Yikes.  A few days ago, I had 19 out of state finds, with the 424 in-state finds.  Suddenly, a portion of Arizona appears to have been annexed to another state as 51 caches now appear OOS.  Any ideas?
 
Brian
Team A.I.



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>So who put 36 caches as member's only caches? Here we are at 195 caches, so close to the 2 century mark, and now we've dropped to 159. Is it time to play "find the missing caches?"<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yikes.&nbsp; A few days ago, I had 19 out of state finds, with the 424 in-state finds.&nbsp; Suddenly, a portion of Arizona appears to have been annexed to another state as 51 caches now appear OOS.&nbsp; Any ideas?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 18:58:21 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:58:21 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan site
Message-ID: <2DFCF912.725215CB.0013DAD2@aol.com>

I cant figure out where the geocaching info is on the Magellan site. I've found all the promo info and the log in stuff and the rules and prizes but not the clues and/or coords. Can someone give me a clue. Thanks

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 19:05:19 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:05:19 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan site
In-Reply-To: <2DFCF912.725215CB.0013DAD2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIAEFFDLAA.andy@britishideas.com>

https://www.magellangps.com/en/gpsAdventures/geocaching/login.asp

Andy


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Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan site



I cant figure out where the geocaching info is on the Magellan site. I've
found all the promo info and the log in stuff and the rules and prizes but
not the clues and/or coords. Can someone give me a clue. Thanks
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 19:10:46 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan site
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First you need to set up account and log in. Then scroll to the bottom of the page where it says click to begin adventure. Then scroll down to the appropriate treasure which is  Loot from Mactan Island. Hope this helps.

BBUDCAM@aol.com wrote:
I cant figure out where the geocaching info is on the Magellan site. I've found all the promo info and the log in stuff and the rules and prizes but not the clues and/or coords. Can someone give me a clue. Thanks
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Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>First you need to set up account and log in. Then scroll to the bottom of the page where it says click to begin adventure. Then scroll down to the appropriate treasure which is&nbsp; Loot from Mactan Island. Hope this helps.<BR><BR><B><I>BBUDCAM@aol.com</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%"><BR>I cant figure out where the geocaching info is on the Magellan site. I've found all the promo info and the log in stuff and the rules and prizes but not the clues and/or coords. Can someone give me a clue. Thanks<BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 19:12:50 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:12:50 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan site
Message-ID: <0B121113.1753C101.0013DAD2@aol.com>

never mind I figured it out.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 20:30:13 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:30:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] missing caches on stats page
Message-ID: <20030808203013.49298.qmail@web14808.mail.yahoo.com>

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Having nothing better to do while waiting for the cache page to updat on Magellan, I thought I'd go over the missing caches.
 
Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache
Freestone Lake
Birds and Butterflies
Playing in Camelot
Potluck Picnic
Random Cache 
A Very Serene Experience
Tennis Anyone?
Curiously Strong Wintergreen
Checkmate Redux
Lil Sister
The Kangaroo is Watching you
A Sporting Chance
Red Mountain Lake
Green-belt?
Neighborhood Park Dos
Gold Miner
Angel
Sunset Vista
Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend
Ye Old Boggin' Trail
Sierra Verde
Location 2246
Mo's Cache
The Moon
Fred Visits Dana Ranch
Sliver
Chips Barbecue&Soccer
Point of View
Crazy Town
Where's George
Home Run Country
Silverhawke Stash
Paradise Valley PArk
Moving Target Not On A Sunday
Desert Giant
 
 
Most seem to be archived. Desert Giant keeps turning up on this list for some reason.
 
 
 


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<DIV>Having nothing better to do while waiting for the cache page to updat on Magellan, I thought I'd go over the missing caches.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache</DIV>
<DIV>Freestone Lake</DIV>
<DIV>Birds and Butterflies</DIV>
<DIV>Playing in Camelot</DIV>
<DIV>Potluck Picnic</DIV>
<DIV>Random Cache </DIV>
<DIV>A Very Serene Experience</DIV>
<DIV>Tennis Anyone?</DIV>
<DIV>Curiously Strong Wintergreen</DIV>
<DIV>Checkmate Redux</DIV>
<DIV>Lil Sister</DIV>
<DIV>The Kangaroo is Watching you</DIV>
<DIV>A Sporting Chance</DIV>
<DIV>Red Mountain Lake</DIV>
<DIV>Green-belt?</DIV>
<DIV>Neighborhood Park Dos</DIV>
<DIV>Gold Miner</DIV>
<DIV>Angel</DIV>
<DIV>Sunset Vista</DIV>
<DIV>Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend</DIV>
<DIV>Ye Old Boggin' Trail</DIV>
<DIV>Sierra Verde</DIV>
<DIV>Location 2246</DIV>
<DIV>Mo's Cache</DIV>
<DIV>The Moon</DIV>
<DIV>Fred Visits Dana Ranch</DIV>
<DIV>Sliver</DIV>
<DIV>Chips Barbecue&amp;Soccer</DIV>
<DIV>Point of View</DIV>
<DIV>Crazy Town</DIV>
<DIV>Where's George</DIV>
<DIV>Home Run Country</DIV>
<DIV>Silverhawke Stash</DIV>
<DIV>Paradise Valley PArk</DIV>
<DIV>Moving Target Not On A Sunday</DIV>
<DIV>Desert Giant</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Most seem to be archived. Desert Giant keeps turning up on this list for some reason.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug  8 23:41:07 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:41:07 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Day of Cache Hunting Anyone?
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Is there anyone NOT going to hunt for the Magellen treasure hunt cache on
Saturday? If so, I have an empty co-pilot seat open for a day of cache
hunting in the Wickenburg area. I plan for a long day, leaving early. Let me
know soon if you want to go cache hunting. I'll check Email again in a few
hours. You can email me directly: lfar@cox.net.

Larry
Team "Wyle E"
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 02:10:10 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Koch, Dan)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 19:10:10 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan cache found!
Message-ID: <EBF41E098572D2119CAF00805F1991A3036FD779@tpe-nt-ex1.phx.eclipsnet.com>

The Magellan cache has been found!

My congratulations go out to Tamo's Clan'Destiny and Aus Dem Kasten for
their insane find!

LazyK - Dan

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 04:34:03 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 21:34:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Day of Cache Hunting Anyone?
Message-ID: <20030808213404.9703.h014.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

(raises hand)
me! I'd love to go cache with you in Wickenburg....but it is probably
too late, I probably can't keep up with you (but I am a GREAT
navigator) and, well, we already have a bunch of errands planned...ho
hum...how boring....good luck Larry, have fun!
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott
ONE who is NOT going for the Magallan cache, altho I saw the Ch 12
news story and would like to....


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Is 
there anyone NOT going to hunt for the Magellen treasure hunt cache on
Saturday? 
If so, I have an empty co-pilot seat open for a day of cache hunting
in the 
Wickenburg area. I plan for a long day, leaving early. Let me know
soon if you 
want to go cache hunting. I'll check Email again in a few hours. You
can email 
me directly: lfar@cox.net.
 
Larry
Team 
"Wyle E"
www.happy-wanderers.com
 

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 05:56:07 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Aus Dem Kasten)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 22:56:07 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan cache found!
Message-ID: <002801c35e3a$f0292bd0$6501a8c0@pavilion>

Thanks Grandpa LazyK!  We also need to mention that CopyCache was also
part of the First Find team.  We had a great time over the past few
days---thanks everyone!

Angela 
Aus Dem Kasten

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
Koch, Dan
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:10 PM
To: 'listserv@azgeocaching.com'
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan cache found!

The Magellan cache has been found!

My congratulations go out to Tamo's Clan'Destiny and Aus Dem Kasten for
their insane find!

LazyK - Dan
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 06:24:11 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Marc)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:24:11 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan cache found!
In-Reply-To: <EBF41E098572D2119CAF00805F1991A3036FD779@tpe-nt-ex1.phx.eclipsnet.com>
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Message-ID: <3F34938B.90708@uccinc.net>

Dear Caching Dad,

We and our caching children want to thank you for all those long hard 
years that you invested in us. Here now is you payoff! A small milestone 
you rest with in your dreams.... Thank you for showing us the ways and 
turning us in to insane cachers....

Tamo, Clan, Aus Dem Kasten, and Copy Cacher

Koch, Dan wrote:

>The Magellan cache has been found!
>
>My congratulations go out to Tamo's Clan'Destiny and Aus Dem Kasten for
>their insane find!
>
>LazyK - Dan
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 06:37:44 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Marc)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:37:44 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan Cache Hunt Pool
Message-ID: <3F3496B8.6020106@uccinc.net>

Gale - Just want to know what the odds were for the underdogs???? and 
how much did we win??

Tamo


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 06:56:32 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:56:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan Cache Hunt Pool
In-Reply-To: <3F3496B8.6020106@uccinc.net>
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Beats me. I wasn't the odds maker or the bookie. I did lose though. My money wasn't on you, sorry.

Marc <webmaster@uccinc.net> wrote:Gale - Just want to know what the odds were for the underdogs???? and 
how much did we win??

Tamo

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Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>Beats me. I wasn't the odds maker or the bookie. I did lose though. My money wasn't on you, sorry.<BR><BR><B><I>Marc &lt;webmaster@uccinc.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Gale - Just want to know what the odds were for the underdogs???? and <BR>how much did we win??<BR><BR>Tamo<BR><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 17:48:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 10:48:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan Cache Hunt
Message-ID: <20030809104856.5783.h015.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Hey all you Magellan hunters:
For those of us who are geographically and otherwise-challenged, but
interested in what happened, care to share about how the clues were
given, how you figgered it out, and how you found the cache, and what
you won???
No, I did not log into the site, why bother? I couldn't go for it
anyway. But any details would be greatly appreciated. Elect your best
story teller, or more than one for a variety...I'm sure there are a
few of us who are curious and want to cache vicariously and hear all
the story!
Thanks
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott

PS if anybody tells me this is off-topic.....I'll....grrrrr.....never
mind.




On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:56:32 -0700 (PDT), Gale Draper wrote:

Beats me. I wasn't the odds maker or the bookie. I did lose though. My
money wasn't on you, sorry.Marc <webmaster@uccinc.net> wrote:
Gale - Just want to know what the odds were for the underdogs???? and
how much did we
win??Tamo____________________________________________________________

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 18:18:50 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 11:18:50 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan Cache Hunt Pool
References: <3F3496B8.6020106@uccinc.net>
Message-ID: <004601c35ea2$ae8069b0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

Y'know, I'd have put money on myself too, because I wanted it that bad.  A
bad night sleep and total exhaustion put me in a place where unless it was
in my front yard, I wouldn't have made FTF (min. drive approx. 35 miles of
totally indirect routes).

At any rate, congratulations to Tamo and 'clan' for their FTF.  They pored
over the area(s) for several days to locate it, while I pored over
maps/satellite imagery to try and pinpoint a location, settling on this very
area the night before the coords were released.  I chose to go home right
after work and get up early to make my rounds, going deeper into the Hills
to try and locate some hint of where it might be.  I made a drive up into
McDowell Mtn Regional Park, deciding quickly that I didn't believe it was
there, because it just seemed too far away, and the fee paid didn't seem to
fit into what I believed were Magellan's intentions.  Besides, I had been
corresponding with the person responsible for this cache yesterday via
e-mail, and while she gave me nibbles (enough to help decide it wasn't there
and that the coords would be released Friday), she gave me nothing concrete
that would have violated policy or any NDA.  The sheer fact that the coords
were released as late in the day as they were may have been in part to my
mentioning that mid-afternoon would have been near the hottest time of day,
and her promise to 'keep that in mind'.

After Team 360 ran around the area near Quartz Trail and surmised the cache
was NOT there, the 128st/Via Linda was my second guess, which I didn't
explore for reasons unknown.  The fact that Tamo and 'clan' walked within
10' of the area earlier makes me think that Magellan placed the cache just
about the time the coords were released (to prevent FTF prior to
coordinates, thereby increasing the competition).  It would be great if
companies like Magellan and Garmin would collaborate with local geocachers
in their home cache areas, to put on contest caches at random.  A difficult
puzzle cache, or some spin-off from an event cache where FTF prize would be
some cool schwag or perhaps a new unit, depending on the complexity of the
cache puzzle itself.

Great meeting everyone (some again), and I hope to see all of you at the
Breakfast Cache #3 in a few weeks.

Brian
Team A.I.
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> Gale - Just want to know what the odds were for the underdogs???? and
> how much did we win??
>
> Tamo
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 23:52:11 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 16:52:11 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Missing Magellan cache!
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 00:30:10 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 20:30:10 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Missing Magellan cache!
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I corresponded with the Magellan person responsible for the Arizona cache yesterday, and I was assured that it was not in any off-limits area.  She implied that after the PA fiasco, that they were learning from that mistake, and taking more precautions than before.   My guess is, someone either found it and didn't log it online, taking the container with them, some kids saw all the commotion and zeroed in on the area, or the Magellan rep was instructed to come back and take it once the coupons were empty.

Tamo e-mailed the person I was talking to, and is looking into a few things regarding the containers.

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: "RAND HARDIN" <RHrdn8@msn.com>
> Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 07:52:11 EDT
> To: "AZ-Geocaching" <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Missing Magellan cache!
> 
> I read this morning that the Magellan cache is missing.  I can't help but wonder if the cache location is actually considered part of the Preserve!?  I did see a sign posted at the end of the road (a few hundred feet north of the cache site) indicating the boundary for the McDowell Mountain Preserve.  I wonder if the Park Rangers had monitored the web site and confiscated the cache after the coordinates were released?
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> RandMan
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 00:54:15 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 17:54:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Missing Magellan cache!
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There's some good geocaching PR. That'll make our lives here so much easier.
 
By the way, what was supposed to happen to the chest after the coupons were gone? I debated it back and forth about getting it and wondered if someone else would take it. The chest (as seen on TV) was, in my opinion, a prize worth having.
 
For the record, I did not take it. I'm still at home, babysitting the dog and doing housework.

RAND HARDIN <RHrdn8@msn.com> wrote:
I read this morning that the Magellan cache is missing.  I can't help but wonder if the cache location is actually considered part of the Preserve!?  I did see a sign posted at the end of the road (a few hundred feet north of the cache site) indicating the boundary for the McDowell Mountain Preserve.  I wonder if the Park Rangers had monitored the web site and confiscated the cache after the coordinates were released?
 
RandMan





Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>There's some good geocaching PR. That'll make our lives here so much easier.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>By the way, what was supposed to happen to the chest after the coupons were gone? I debated it back and forth about getting it and wondered if someone else would take it. The chest (as seen on TV) was, in my opinion, a prize worth having.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>For the record, I did not take it. I'm still at home, babysitting the dog and doing housework.<BR><BR><B><I>RAND HARDIN &lt;RHrdn8@msn.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">
<DIV>I read this morning that the <STRONG>Magellan</STRONG> cache is missing.&nbsp; I can't help but wonder if the cache location&nbsp;is actually considered part of the Preserve!?&nbsp; I did see a sign posted at the end of the road (a few hundred feet north of the cache site)&nbsp;indicating the boundary for the McDowell Mountain Preserve.&nbsp; I wonder if the Park Rangers had monitored the web site and confiscated the cache after the coordinates were released?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>RandMan<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 01:08:09 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:08:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
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Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.
 
The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850
 
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<DIV>Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 01:17:07 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 21:17:07 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
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Jeff (Team 360) left for it this morning.

It would definitely be fun, and I'd love to attend, maybe even help with the planning.  A nighttime version of the cache would be great too, and perhaps Tamo and I could work together on that one...  :)

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: Gale Draper <sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:08:09 EDT
> To: list <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
> 
> Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.
>  
> The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850
>  
> If anybody went to it, please give us your opinions of how it was.
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<DIV>Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850">http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If anybody went to it, please give us your opinions of how it was.</DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 01:24:03 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
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A night time version, you devils! Night caching is fun, and we've even got one of Tamo's black light specials.

bcasteel@cox.net wrote:Jeff (Team 360) left for it this morning.

It would definitely be fun, and I'd love to attend, maybe even help with the planning. A nighttime version of the cache would be great too, and perhaps Tamo and I could work together on that one... :)

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: Gale Draper 
> Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:08:09 EDT
> To: list 

> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
> 
> Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.
> 
> The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850
> 
> If anybody went to it, please give us your opinions of how it was.
> 
> 
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Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.
 
The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850
 
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  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>A night time version, you devils! Night caching is fun, and we've even got one of Tamo's black light specials.<BR><BR><B><I>bcasteel@cox.net</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Jeff (Team 360) left for it this morning.<BR><BR>It would definitely be fun, and I'd love to attend, maybe even help with the planning. A nighttime version of the cache would be great too, and perhaps Tamo and I could work together on that one... :)<BR><BR>Brian<BR>Team A.I.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: Gale Draper <SONORALOVESMOMMY@YAHOO.COM><BR>&gt; Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:08:09 EDT<BR>&gt; To: list <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>&gt; Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; If anybody went to it, please
 give us your opinions of how it was.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ---------------------------------<BR>&gt; Do you Yahoo!?<BR>&gt; Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software<BR>&gt; <BR>
<DIV>Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850">http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If anybody went to it, please give us your opinions of how it was.</DIV>
<P>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 21:43:15 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
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I've got a few ideas in mind for it, as does Tamo.  A Halloween themed cache like this would be great.  A nighttime event cache to kick it off would be fun too.  :)

Brian
Team aA.I.
> 
> From: Gale Draper <sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:24:03 EDT
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
> 
> A night time version, you devils! Night caching is fun, and we've even got one of Tamo's black light specials.
> 
> bcasteel@cox.net wrote:Jeff (Team 360) left for it this morning.
> 
> It would definitely be fun, and I'd love to attend, maybe even help with the planning. A nighttime version of the cache would be great too, and perhaps Tamo and I could work together on that one... :)
> 
> Brian
> Team A.I.
> > 
> > From: Gale Draper 
> > Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:08:09 EDT
> > To: list 
> 
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
> > 
> > Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.
> > 
> > The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850
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> Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.
>  
> The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850
>  
> If anybody went to it, please give us your opinions of how it was.
> 
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> Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
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> "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
>   "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
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<DIV>A night time version, you devils! Night caching is fun, and we've even got one of Tamo's black light specials.<BR><BR><B><I>bcasteel@cox.net</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Jeff (Team 360) left for it this morning.<BR><BR>It would definitely be fun, and I'd love to attend, maybe even help with the planning. A nighttime version of the cache would be great too, and perhaps Tamo and I could work together on that one... :)<BR><BR>Brian<BR>Team A.I.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: Gale Draper <SONORALOVESMOMMY@YAHOO.COM><BR>&gt; Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:08:09 EDT<BR>&gt; To: list <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>&gt; Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; If anybody went to it, p!
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<DIV>Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people are interested.</DIV>
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<DIV>The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850">http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850</A></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 02:16:36 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (William Noll)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 19:16:36 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan Cache Hunt
References: <20030809104856.5783.h015.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>
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I posted the following 'Note' on the MagellanGPS website, and thought it
should be shared here...

    Just curious... I'm wondering what the real point of all this was. Sure,
someone gained a new GPS or trip, and several earned hats, but what did
Magellan gain? Did any of you run out and buy new GPS units? Probably not.
Their press release says this is a chance to get the family outdoors
together for fun, but how many NEW geocachers did they create? It seems to
me most who arrived Friday night were hardcore, experienced, serious cachers
out to get the FTF. Any NEW cachers out there?
    Was the overall contest fair? Not exactly. Considering that there was
much anticipation and curiosity in the various hints, the cache site was
only a few blocks from houses in an upscale part of town. Since the final
coordinate release was only a few minutes after the final hint, only persons
in the area (living or working) had a decent chance at FTF. Certainly NOT
geocaching skill. The sure method to be FTF was also to use a team method -
someone monitoring a computer at home or mobile device, and calling in the
coords to another team on a cellular. Did that increase the sporting chances
of new cachers? How many out there not in the East Valley just turned off to
this whole contest?
    Did the cache location encourage you to buy the latest Magellan
handheld? Like I said, what did Magellan gain? I don't think much. There are
many ways to make it more competive and fair. Was liability an issue? If
they put it on Humphrey's Peak, and someone has an accident, could Magellan
be liable? Is that why they are in easy-to-manage geographies? Magellan
won't do this again, if there is nothing for them to gain. You may gain a
hat, but if they don't get direct-sales from this game, it won't happen
again. Just a thought. Comments?

(BTW, while my cache count is low, I've used GPS since 1996 (anybody
remember the glory days of 5-channel parallel receivers?) and currently own
three with a Garmin VISTA as my latest (love the Topo map downloads!)

William Noll





> No, I did not log into the site, why bother? I couldn't go for it
> anyway. But any details would be greatly appreciated. Elect your best
> story teller, or more than one for a variety...I'm sure there are a
> few of us who are curious and want to cache vicariously and hear all
> the story!
> Thanks
> Trisha "Lightning"
> Prescott
>
> PS if anybody tells me this is off-topic.....I'll....grrrrr.....never
> mind.


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 02:59:23 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Marc)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 19:59:23 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan Cache Hunt
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Not to blow the wind out of the sails, but Magellan is getting lots out 
of this. They have press all over the US and abroad. I'm sure the 
marketing gurus os Magellan would not host anything with this type of 
magnitude unless they felt they got alot out of it. What their motives 
are and what the goal is, we may not ever know. In any case, they have 
promoted this sport and branded their name. Will someone go out and 
purchase a Magellan because of it today? That is a good question. 
However, they may be looking for future business and that I think they 
have accomplished if nothing else. Most will support companies in the 
future that are dedicated to their customers. New customers will follow.

As far as not bringing anyone in to the sport with this, I again have to 
disagree. We may have found it without the coordinates, assuming that it 
was really there when we looked over the area. Even at that, with the 
last hint, we would have found it hands down. No GPS required! We were 
with two new teams. One of which has only cached twice before this. The 
THREE of us hunted. The THREE of us found. I'm sure that the two new 
teams are not only hooked, but will add much to our local caching.

I don't think it is fair to slam those we don't know and what their 
motives are. Who is to say what someone gets out of it except for that 
one. I think most would agree that there are far too many reasons out 
there to say why anyone of us cache or why we cache the way we do. As 
for this type of cache, it is what we like and thrive on.  There area a 
lot of caches in Arizona, and a large number in areas that you could 
ride your bike to to get the joy out of two hobbies (aka sports) at 
one.  I wouldnt give up on geocaching just because your opinion of how 
this cache was done isn't sitting well with you.  Get on the Internet, 
and starting looking for one that intrigues you.   The great thing about 
this 'hobby' is that there's enough variety in caching, you can find the 
ones you like.

These are my opinions and not necessarily the expressed opinions of 
anyone else.

William Noll wrote:

>I posted the following 'Note' on the MagellanGPS website, and thought it
>should be shared here...
>
>    Just curious... I'm wondering what the real point of all this was. Sure,
>someone gained a new GPS or trip, and several earned hats, but what did
>Magellan gain? Did any of you run out and buy new GPS units? Probably not.
>Their press release says this is a chance to get the family outdoors
>together for fun, but how many NEW geocachers did they create? It seems to
>me most who arrived Friday night were hardcore, experienced, serious cachers
>out to get the FTF. Any NEW cachers out there?
>    Was the overall contest fair? Not exactly. Considering that there was
>much anticipation and curiosity in the various hints, the cache site was
>only a few blocks from houses in an upscale part of town. Since the final
>coordinate release was only a few minutes after the final hint, only persons
>in the area (living or working) had a decent chance at FTF. Certainly NOT
>geocaching skill. The sure method to be FTF was also to use a team method -
>someone monitoring a computer at home or mobile device, and calling in the
>coords to another team on a cellular. Did that increase the sporting chances
>of new cachers? How many out there not in the East Valley just turned off to
>this whole contest?
>    Did the cache location encourage you to buy the latest Magellan
>handheld? Like I said, what did Magellan gain? I don't think much. There are
>many ways to make it more competive and fair. Was liability an issue? If
>they put it on Humphrey's Peak, and someone has an accident, could Magellan
>be liable? Is that why they are in easy-to-manage geographies? Magellan
>won't do this again, if there is nothing for them to gain. You may gain a
>hat, but if they don't get direct-sales from this game, it won't happen
>again. Just a thought. Comments?
>
>(BTW, while my cache count is low, I've used GPS since 1996 (anybody
>remember the glory days of 5-channel parallel receivers?) and currently own
>three with a Garmin VISTA as my latest (love the Topo map downloads!)
>
>William Noll
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>No, I did not log into the site, why bother? I couldn't go for it
>>anyway. But any details would be greatly appreciated. Elect your best
>>story teller, or more than one for a variety...I'm sure there are a
>>few of us who are curious and want to cache vicariously and hear all
>>the story!
>>Thanks
>>Trisha "Lightning"
>>Prescott
>>
>>PS if anybody tells me this is off-topic.....I'll....grrrrr.....never
>>mind.
>>    
>>
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 03:33:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 20:33:31 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
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I think it sounds like a lot of fun, providing the stickers are removed
afterwards. Maybe laminated cards or tags would be a little less permenant?
Of course, if if it is arranged, and if I can make it, then I would
volunteer to help remove some of the stickers/tags/whatever. I would hope
that others would do the same.
Andy

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  Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would people be
interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a blast. Mike
and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough people
are interested.

  The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 03:58:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:58:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
Message-ID: <20030809205802.5480.h006.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

I love the idea, would try to make it (be at a slight disadvantage,
being from out of town) and I may look at the idea seriously for a
slightly scaled down version in the Prescott area....most geocachers
don't mind if you "rip off" a great idea and do it in a different area.
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott



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I 
think it sounds like a lot of fun, providing the stickers are removed 
afterwards. Maybe laminated cards or tags would be a little less
permenant? Of 
course, if if it is arranged, and if I can make it, then I would
volunteer to 
help remove some of the stickers/tags/whatever. I would hope that
others would 
do the same.
Andy--Andrew 
Ayre          Embedded Systems 
Academy, Inc.aayre@esacademy.com  www.esacademy.comPGP encrypted 
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  listSubject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
  Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would
people be 
  interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a
blast. Mike 
  and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough
people are 
  interested.
   
  The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=62850
   
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 05:13:32 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Virgil Silhanek)
Date: 09 Aug 2003 22:13:32 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
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Has anyone out there used Lenmar NiMH batteries?  Just curious as to any
reviews?  

I was in Fry's at I-17 and Thunderbird and saw they carried the brand. 
Advertising the 2300mAh is the largest/strongest I've seen.  

I've used both Rayovac and Energizer NiMH in my GPS and digital camera
and found the Rayovac to be much better in my opinion.  I'm needing
another set of batteries and am considering buying the Lenmar ones.

http://lenmar.com/

http://lenmar.com/PressReleases/NiMH_AA_05-21-03.asp


Thanks,
Virgil Silhanek


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 06:03:41 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 02:03:41 EDT
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #1349 - 8 msgs
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The Great Alb. Cache Hunt sounds pretty fun... not that any cachers in 
Phoenix are competitive or anything... (Chump....)  

Yes, we are still alive...just been working on some real estate investment 
projects.  Hope to do some caching in the fall when it cools down.  Hello to all 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 06:16:46 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jamie & Rosemary Berry)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 23:16:46 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] event cache idea
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Team BerrrydTreasures.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sounds like a great idea. I hope you =
can put it=20
together and we are available to attend.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team BerrrydTreasures.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dsonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com">Gale Draper</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">list</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 09, 2003 =
6:08=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] event =
cache=20
  idea</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Well okay, it's a blatant copy/rip-off of another's idea. Would =
people be=20
  interested in this event cache? I have to admit it sounds like a =
blast. Mike=20
  and I would love to set one of these up in the wintertime if enough =
people are=20
  interested.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The Great Alburquerque Cache Hunt <A=20
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href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D62850">htt=
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>If anybody went to it, please give us your opinions of how it =
was.</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 07:50:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:50:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100 oldest caches
Message-ID: <20030810075002.75075.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com>

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I saw this in the forums, thought you might be interested.
 
http://members.cox.net/pkpublic/index.html
 
One of Arizona's caches made the 100 oldest cache list. It is still active.


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<DIV>I saw this in the forums, thought you might be interested.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://members.cox.net/pkpublic/index.html">http://members.cox.net/pkpublic/index.html</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>One of Arizona's caches made the 100 oldest cache list. It is still active.</DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 08:38:43 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 01:38:43 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100 oldest caches
References: <20030810075002.75075.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009501c35f1a$cf9f0700$bd61b83f@fishkiller>

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Yes this cache is still there.  It requires a Bull dog canyon permit for =
a .57 mile one way stroll or not for a 1ish mile stroll
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: list=20
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:50 AM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100 oldest caches


  I saw this in the forums, thought you might be interested.

  http://members.cox.net/pkpublic/index.html

  One of Arizona's caches made the 100 oldest cache list. It is still =
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dsonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com">Gale Draper</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">list</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 10, 2003 =
12:50=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] 100 =
oldest=20
  caches</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I saw this in the forums, thought you might be interested.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://members.cox.net/pkpublic/index.html">http://members.cox.ne=
t/pkpublic/index.html</A></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>One of Arizona's caches made the 100 oldest cache list. It is =
still=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 13:15:36 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Pat Thompson)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 06:15:36 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache stats page.
Message-ID: <3F364578.2000804@cox.net>

On and off for the past couple of months the stats page has listed 
in-state caches as out of state caches on Team Seekings
cache stats page. Initially, I was able to contact Az. Geocaching.com 
and the one incorrect stat was changed. After another
incorrect stat appeared(in-state showing as out of state), I again 
attempted to contact Az. Geocaching.com without success.
Today, I noted that the stats page was showing that 12 of our in-state 
caches were now listed as out-of-state.I'm
thinking that maybe the stats. protocol was changed and that there is a 
good reason why the in-state caches show up as out-of-state.
I decided to raise the issue in this forum only because I have been 
lately unsuccessful in contacting Az. Geocaching.com
using another address. When I made the initial contact, I was advised by 
the person who responded that Az.
Geocaching.com wanted to be made aware of any discrepancies in the stat. 
lists, but maybe that situation has changed,
and a change in the stat. presentation protocol  explains everything. I 
am willing to help in any way I can, if Az.Geocaching.com
wants the stats. page to accurately reflect the generic in-state count. 
If not, I am happy to drop the issue because it is not a major
concern for me. Thanks for any direction anyone is willing to offer in 
this matter.
Pat Thompson
Team Seeking


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 14:58:32 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Steven Stringham)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 07:58:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
In-Reply-To: <1060492411.31742.30.camel@ip68-3-80-44.ph.ph.cox.net>
References: <001501c3586b$77c092c0$6701a8c0@NOTEBOOK>
 <1060492411.31742.30.camel@ip68-3-80-44.ph.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <2306.172.30.1.10.1060527512.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>

I use them. I get about 4 hours of life out of them in my etrex. They
start out as being about 1/2 full according to the etrex. So, they are not
a full 1.5v but rather more like 1.3-1.2v.

But, they keep recharging and working for me. Costs a lot less than a
batch of new batteries every week.

Steven Stringham
StringCachers


> Has anyone out there used Lenmar NiMH batteries?  Just curious as to any
> reviews?
>
> I was in Fry's at I-17 and Thunderbird and saw they carried the brand.
> Advertising the 2300mAh is the largest/strongest I've seen.
>
> I've used both Rayovac and Energizer NiMH in my GPS and digital camera
> and found the Rayovac to be much better in my opinion.  I'm needing
> another set of batteries and am considering buying the Lenmar ones.
>
> http://lenmar.com/
>
> http://lenmar.com/PressReleases/NiMH_AA_05-21-03.asp
>
>
> Thanks,
> Virgil Silhanek
>


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 15:30:59 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:30:59 EDT
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re:Batteries
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Team spring has used the Lenmar batteries for a while with no problems. We 
purchased the 1800 four pack with the charger included almost a year ago, and 
they are still going strong. We use them in quite a few other devises including 
Digital cams, flashlights, ect.
Nice to know there are 2300 now, we will have to drop by and scoop up a few 
packs..
Team Spring

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 16:39:07 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 09:39:07 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
References: <001501c3586b$77c092c0$6701a8c0@NOTEBOOK>      <1060492411.31742.30.camel@ip68-3-80-44.ph.ph.cox.net> <2306.172.30.1.10.1060527512.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>
Message-ID: <002d01c35f5d$eadf0ef0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

You need to change the battery type in the config on your etrex.  There is
an option for NiMh, and it recognizes them differently.

Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Stringham" <sstringh@stringham-family.org>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Cc: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???


> I use them. I get about 4 hours of life out of them in my etrex. They
> start out as being about 1/2 full according to the etrex. So, they are not
> a full 1.5v but rather more like 1.3-1.2v.
>
> But, they keep recharging and working for me. Costs a lot less than a
> batch of new batteries every week.
>
> Steven Stringham
> StringCachers
>
>
> > Has anyone out there used Lenmar NiMH batteries?  Just curious as to any
> > reviews?
> >
> > I was in Fry's at I-17 and Thunderbird and saw they carried the brand.
> > Advertising the 2300mAh is the largest/strongest I've seen.
> >
> > I've used both Rayovac and Energizer NiMH in my GPS and digital camera
> > and found the Rayovac to be much better in my opinion.  I'm needing
> > another set of batteries and am considering buying the Lenmar ones.
> >
> > http://lenmar.com/
> >
> > http://lenmar.com/PressReleases/NiMH_AA_05-21-03.asp
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Virgil Silhanek
> >
>
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 17:30:06 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:30:06 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Munged stats
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 17:33:23 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:33:23 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Munged stats II: The List
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Well, I figured out a more efficient way to compare finds to figure out =
which were incorrectly showing as OOS finds.  Here's my newest list, all =
of which are archived (not Member Only):

 GC08BD   =20
 GC0BFF
 GC0C42
 GC1472
 GC1882
 GC1B39
 GC1FC2
 GC2D9F
 GC3668
 GC3E2B
 GC3F11
 GC3F35
 GC4541
 GC4CEB
 GC54C6
 GC75DE
 GC76FD
 GC7E1F
 GC7F4B
 GC854F
 GC870A
 GC870F
 GC87B5
 GC8A25
 GC8A28
 GC8A7A
 GC8A83
 GC902D
 GC905B
 GC905C
 GC98C5
 GC9974
 GC99B4
 GC9BEF
 GCAFA0
 GCB3C7
 GCB3EE
 GCB878
 GCBBC4
 GCBD33
 GCC1B7
 GCC2EC
 GCC85B
 GCC974
 GCCC92
 GCCD3F
 GCD126
 GCD464
 GCD548
 GCD60F
 GCDAFA
 GCE378


Brian
Team A.I.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;GC08BD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>&nbsp;GC0BFF<BR>&nbsp;GC0C42<BR>&nbsp;GC1472<BR>&nbsp;GC1882<BR>&nbsp=
;GC1B39<BR>&nbsp;GC1FC2<BR>&nbsp;GC2D9F<BR>&nbsp;GC3668<BR>&nbsp;GC3E2B<B=
R>&nbsp;GC3F11<BR>&nbsp;GC3F35<BR>&nbsp;GC4541<BR>&nbsp;GC4CEB<BR>&nbsp;G=
C54C6<BR>&nbsp;GC75DE<BR>&nbsp;GC76FD<BR>&nbsp;GC7E1F<BR>&nbsp;GC7F4B<BR>=
&nbsp;GC854F<BR>&nbsp;GC870A<BR>&nbsp;GC870F<BR>&nbsp;GC87B5<BR>&nbsp;GC8=
A25<BR>&nbsp;GC8A28</FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2>&nbsp;GC8A7A<BR>&nbsp;GC8A83<BR>&nbsp;GC902D<BR>&nbsp;GC905B<BR>=
&nbsp;GC905C<BR>&nbsp;GC98C5<BR>&nbsp;GC9974<BR>&nbsp;GC99B4<BR>&nbsp;GC9=
BEF<BR>&nbsp;GCAFA0<BR>&nbsp;GCB3C7<BR>&nbsp;GCB3EE<BR>&nbsp;GCB878<BR>&n=
bsp;GCBBC4<BR>&nbsp;GCBD33<BR>&nbsp;GCC1B7<BR>&nbsp;GCC2EC<BR>&nbsp;GCC85=
B<BR>&nbsp;GCC974<BR>&nbsp;GCCC92<BR>&nbsp;GCCD3F<BR>&nbsp;GCD126<BR>&nbs=
p;GCD464<BR>&nbsp;GCD548<BR>&nbsp;GCD60F<BR>&nbsp;GCDAFA<BR>&nbsp;GCE378<=
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 18:21:58 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] stats
Message-ID: <20030810182158.43298.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com>

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I offered my list a couple of days ago. Most were archived caches, but there were a few that weren't archived.
 
Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache
Freestone Lake
Birds and Butterflies
Playing in Camelot
Potluck Picnic
Random Cache 
A Very Serene Experience
Tennis Anyone?
Curiously Strong Wintergreen
Checkmate Redux
Lil Sister
The Kangaroo is Watching you
A Sporting Chance
Red Mountain Lake
Green-belt?
Neighborhood Park Dos
Gold Miner
Angel
Sunset Vista
Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend
Ye Old Boggin' Trail
Sierra Verde
Location 2246
Mo's Cache
The Moon
Fred Visits Dana Ranch
Sliver
Chips Barbecue&Soccer
Point of View
Crazy Town
Where's George
Home Run Country
Silverhawke Stash
Paradise Valley PArk
Moving Target Not On A Sunday
Desert Giant

I noticed that I've now dropped off the second page and someone who is 20 caches behind me in a real count is now 10 places above me.


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache<BR>Freestone Lake<BR>Birds and Butterflies<BR>Playing in Camelot<BR>Potluck Picnic<BR>Random Cache <BR>A Very Serene Experience<BR>Tennis Anyone?<BR>Curiously Strong Wintergreen<BR>Checkmate Redux<BR>Lil Sister<BR>The Kangaroo is Watching you<BR>A Sporting Chance<BR>Red Mountain Lake<BR>Green-belt?<BR>Neighborhood Park Dos<BR>Gold Miner<BR>Angel<BR>Sunset Vista<BR>Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend<BR>Ye Old Boggin' Trail<BR>Sierra Verde<BR>Location 2246<BR>Mo's Cache<BR>The Moon<BR>Fred Visits Dana Ranch<BR>Sliver<BR>Chips Barbecue&amp;Soccer<BR>Point of View<BR>Crazy Town<BR>Where's George<BR>Home Run Country<BR>Silverhawke Stash<BR>Paradise Valley PArk<BR>Moving Target Not On A Sunday<BR>Desert Giant<BR></DIV>
<DIV>I noticed that I've now dropped off the second page and someone who&nbsp;is 20 caches behind me in a real count is now 10 places above me.</DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 18:54:29 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RopingThe Wind)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:54:29 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Munged stats
Message-ID: <BAY8-F116niSnRMWuLn0000077b@hotmail.com>

I have a really simple method for tracking my in/out of state finds.....

I only cache in state (AZ)...so if any show up in my OOS column, I know 
something isn't right.  At any rate, I just add my in state and out of state 
finds together and it will equal my total finds!  :)

I do have to say though that there are some really interesting caches up 
here in WA and look mighty tempting! :)  But, so far I have been able to 
refrain from my addiction.... so, I guess I am not really 'addicted' 
afterall!  This geocaching addiction counceling course I am taking up here 
seems to be working!  :)  LOL   I did find myself sneeking a peek at the 
closest caches to where I am living up here though and found the closest was 
only 0.3 mile from here!  :(  But, have so far held back my urge to go seek 
it out  :)  There are probably a couple dozen within about 10 miles of 
here!!!  :(    LOL  :)

Scott
Team Ropingthewind

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 19:25:18 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 12:25:18 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Munged stats
References: <BAY8-F116niSnRMWuLn0000077b@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c35f75$2224b830$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

Well, yeah.  Adding in/out of state caches equals the total, but I for one
like things to reflect accurately.  It's just a little thing with me.  Meh.
:)

Brian
Team A.I.


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From: "RopingThe Wind" <arizcowboy@hotmail.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Munged stats


> I have a really simple method for tracking my in/out of state finds.....
>
> I only cache in state (AZ)...so if any show up in my OOS column, I know
> something isn't right.  At any rate, I just add my in state and out of
state
> finds together and it will equal my total finds!  :)
>
> I do have to say though that there are some really interesting caches up
> here in WA and look mighty tempting! :)  But, so far I have been able to
> refrain from my addiction.... so, I guess I am not really 'addicted'
> afterall!  This geocaching addiction counceling course I am taking up here
> seems to be working!  :)  LOL   I did find myself sneeking a peek at the
> closest caches to where I am living up here though and found the closest
was
> only 0.3 mile from here!  :(  But, have so far held back my urge to go
seek
> it out  :)  There are probably a couple dozen within about 10 miles of
> here!!!  :(    LOL  :)
>
> Scott
> Team Ropingthewind
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 20:51:01 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Pat Thompson)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 13:51:01 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest- inaccurate stats.
References: <200308101905.MAA01208@ns2.sequoia.net>
Message-ID: <3F36B035.40803@cox.net>


I've read the latest list serve "munged stats" submittals after 
forwarding our concern(this morning-8-10-0) about inaccurate
stats on the Az.Geocaching page. I''m not sure if these notes are a 
response to my inquiry or just other cachers expressing
concerns similar to the ones I had. We have never found an out-of-state 
cache, yet the page shows that we have 12. These
12 have been subtracted from our legitimate Arizona cache finds. We have 
noted similar inaccuracies in the past and
reported them. One was corrected and the other never was adjusted to 
reflect the accurate facts. I am not sure whether
certain in-state caches have been classified as out-of-state for a 
legitimate reason, or if the software has a programming defect.

If necessary,I will identify the erroneously labeled caches, although 
since none of the found caches were out-of-state,
it would seem like a relatively easy proposition to simply reflect all 
of the caches as in-state.I have recently attempted
to reach someone at the az.geocaching @geocaching.com site, but there 
was no reply and no change in the stats.
Several months ago I was able to contact someone at that site, and was 
advised that they wanted to be informed
about any inaccuracies in the stats, and that is why I have continued to 
pursue this issue. However, the issue is
not a major concern for me, and I will be more than happy to let it 
rest, if no response is forthcoming. I am not
a premium member of the geocaching site, so I hardly feel entitled to 
register a concern, and recognize that I have
no right to complain about a service I did not pay to receive. Further, 
we appreciate all of the time, energy and technical
skill that has gone into designing, executing and maintaining both the 
National and Az. Geocaching sites.

All the best,
Pat Thompson
Team Seeking





From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 21:07:29 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:07:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest- inaccurate stats.
In-Reply-To: <3F36B035.40803@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20030810210729.27511.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com>

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This is only my best guess. I have very little knowledge of computer programming. 
 
Since there have been issues with geocaching.com recently, I suspect the thing at azgeocaching.com which daily scans the main site and updates our stats has been hung up on some technical glitch. I appreciate all of azgeocaching.com's efforts to provide a great site for local cachers too. We have 36 out of state finds even though only 1 is technically "out of state" as a member's only cache. I hope the glitch will be corrected soon.

Pat Thompson <tylert113@cox.net> wrote:


I've read the latest list serve "munged stats" submittals after 
forwarding our concern(this morning-8-10-0) about inaccurate
stats on the Az.Geocaching page. I''m not sure if these notes are a 
response to my inquiry or just other cachers expressing
concerns similar to the ones I had. We have never found an out-of-state 
cache, yet the page shows that we have 12. These
12 have been subtracted from our legitimate Arizona cache finds. We have 
noted similar inaccuracies in the past and
reported them. One was corrected and the other never was adjusted to 
reflect the accurate facts. I am not sure whether
certain in-state caches have been classified as out-of-state for a 
legitimate reason, or if the software has a programming defect.

If necessary,I will identify the erroneously labeled caches, although 
since none of the found caches were out-of-state,
it would seem like a relatively easy proposition to simply reflect all 
of the caches as in-state.I have recently attempted
to reach someone at the az.geocaching @geocaching.com site, but there 
was no reply and no change in the stats.
Several months ago I was able to contact someone at that site, and was 
advised that they wanted to be informed
about any inaccuracies in the stats, and that is why I have continued to 
pursue this issue. However, the issue is
not a major concern for me, and I will be more than happy to let it 
rest, if no response is forthcoming. I am not
a premium member of the geocaching site, so I hardly feel entitled to 
register a concern, and recognize that I have
no right to complain about a service I did not pay to receive. Further, 
we appreciate all of the time, energy and technical
skill that has gone into designing, executing and maintaining both the 
National and Az. Geocaching sites.

All the best,
Pat Thompson
Team Seeking




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To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
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Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>This is only my best guess. I have very little knowledge of computer&nbsp;programming. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Since there have been issues with geocaching.com recently, I suspect the thing at azgeocaching.com which daily scans the main site and updates our stats has been hung up on some technical glitch. I appreciate all of azgeocaching.com's efforts to provide a great site for local cachers too. We have 36 out of state finds even though only 1 is technically "out of state" as a member's only cache. I hope the glitch will be corrected soon.<BR><BR><B><I>Pat Thompson &lt;tylert113@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%"><BR><BR>I've read the latest list serve "munged stats" submittals after <BR>forwarding our concern(this morning-8-10-0) about inaccurate<BR>stats on the Az.Geocaching page. I''m not sure if these notes are a <BR>response to my inquiry or just other cachers expressing<BR>concerns similar to the ones I had. We have never found an out-of-state <BR>cache, yet the page shows that we have 12. These<BR>12 have been subtracted from our legitimate Arizona cache finds. We have <BR>noted similar inaccuracies in the past and<BR>reported them. One was corrected and the other never was adjusted to <BR>reflect the accurate facts. I am not sure whether<BR>certain in-state caches have been classified as out-of-state for a <BR>legitimate reason, or if the software has a programming defect.<BR><BR>If necessary,I will identify the erroneously labeled caches, although <BR>since none of the found caches
 were out-of-state,<BR>it would seem like a relatively easy proposition to simply reflect all <BR>of the caches as in-state.I have recently attempted<BR>to reach someone at the az.geocaching @geocaching.com site, but there <BR>was no reply and no change in the stats.<BR>Several months ago I was able to contact someone at that site, and was <BR>advised that they wanted to be informed<BR>about any inaccuracies in the stats, and that is why I have continued to <BR>pursue this issue. However, the issue is<BR>not a major concern for me, and I will be more than happy to let it <BR>rest, if no response is forthcoming. I am not<BR>a premium member of the geocaching site, so I hardly feel entitled to <BR>register a concern, and recognize that I have<BR>no right to complain about a service I did not pay to receive. Further, <BR>we appreciate all of the time, energy and technical<BR>skill that has gone into designing, executing and maintaining both the <BR>National and Az. Geocaching
 sites.<BR><BR>All the best,<BR>Pat Thompson<BR>Team Seeking<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 21:27:36 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:27:36 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest- inaccurate stats.
In-Reply-To: <20030810210729.27511.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com>
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The UK equivalent of azgeocaching.com, geocacheuk.com, also suffers from
problems like this as they have to resort to scanning and processing GPX
files, etc. I wish that geocaching.com would allow local sites like
azgeocaching.com and geocacheuk.com some kind of back door limited access to
the database so that more reliable data may be obtained. For example, they
could allow access to cache data in only a specific area (AZ and the UK for
my examples) and missing the coordinates and cache descriptions. However, I
understand that that does not make business sense for geocaching.com to do.
And remember, geocaching.com is a business.

Andy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Gale
Draper
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 2:07 PM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest- inaccurate stats.


  This is only my best guess. I have very little knowledge of computer
programming.

  Since there have been issues with geocaching.com recently, I suspect the
thing at azgeocaching.com which daily scans the main site and updates our
stats has been hung up on some technical glitch. I appreciate all of
azgeocaching.com's efforts to provide a great site for local cachers too. We
have 36 out of state finds even though only 1 is technically "out of state"
as a member's only cache. I hope the glitch will be corrected soon.

  Pat Thompson <tylert113@cox.net> wrote:


    I've read the latest list serve "munged stats" submittals after
    forwarding our concern(this morning-8-10-0) about inaccurate
    stats on the Az.Geocaching page. I''m not sure if these notes are a
    response to my inquiry or just other cachers expressing
    concerns similar to the ones I had. We have never found an out-of-state
    cache, yet the page shows that we have 12. These
    12 have been subtracted from our legitimate Arizona cache finds. We have
    noted similar inaccuracies in the past and
    reported them. One was corrected and the other never was adjusted to
    reflect the accurate facts. I am not sure whether
    certain in-state caches have been classified as out-of-state for a
    legitimate reason, or if the software has a programming defect.

    If necessary,I will identify the erroneously labeled caches, although
    since none of the found ca! ches were out-of-state,
    it would seem like a relatively easy proposition to simply reflect all
    of the caches as in-state.I have recently attempted
    to reach someone at the az.geocaching @geocaching.com site, but there
    was no reply and no change in the stats.
    Several months ago I was able to contact someone at that site, and was
    advised that they wanted to be informed
    about any inaccuracies in the stats, and that is why I have continued to
    pursue this issue. However, the issue is
    not a major concern for me, and I will be more than happy to let it
    rest, if no response is forthcoming. I am not
    a premium member of the geocaching site, so I hardly feel entitled to
    register a concern, and recognize that I have
    no right to complain about a service I did not pay to receive. Further,
    we appreciate all of the time, energy and technical
    skill that has gone into designing, executing and maintaining both the
    National and Az. Geocaching sites.

    All the best,
    Pat Thompson
    Team Seeking




    ____________________________________________________________
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    To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
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  Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
    On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
  "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
    "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

  Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 21:41:51 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Marc)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:41:51 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Landmark Cache
Message-ID: <3F36BC1F.3070508@uccinc.net>

This cache has been archived. Thanks for all that came. Tamo

(GCC0D8)


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 21:49:48 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jim Scotti)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:49:48 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] stats
In-Reply-To: <20030810182158.43298.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0308101448010.21376-100000@arjuna.lpl.arizona.edu>

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Gale Draper wrote:

> The Moon

Well, I can see how The Moon might be considered "Out of State"....

:-))

Jim.

Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                 http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/    


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 11 01:16:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Steven Stringham)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:16:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
In-Reply-To: <002d01c35f5d$eadf0ef0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
References: <001501c3586b$77c092c0$6701a8c0@NOTEBOOK>
 <1060492411.31742.30.camel@ip68-3-80-44.ph.ph.cox.net>
 <2306.172.30.1.10.1060527512.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>
 <002d01c35f5d$eadf0ef0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
Message-ID: <2020.172.30.1.10.1060564591.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>

Can you share with me where this setting is as I cannot find it.

Steven Stringham
StringCachers

> You need to change the battery type in the config on your etrex.  There is
> an option for NiMh, and it recognizes them differently.
>
> Brian
> Team A.I.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Stringham" <sstringh@stringham-family.org>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Cc: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???
>
>
>> I use them. I get about 4 hours of life out of them in my etrex. They
>> start out as being about 1/2 full according to the etrex. So, they are
>> not
>> a full 1.5v but rather more like 1.3-1.2v.
>>
>> But, they keep recharging and working for me. Costs a lot less than a
>> batch of new batteries every week.
>>
>> Steven Stringham
>> StringCachers
>>



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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 11 02:06:15 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Virgil Silhanek)
Date: 10 Aug 2003 19:06:15 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
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I have yet to look on my Sportrak, but is that an option with Magellen
also?

Virgil

On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 18:16, Steven Stringham wrote:
> Can you share with me where this setting is as I cannot find it.
> 
> Steven Stringham
> StringCachers
> 
> > You need to change the battery type in the config on your etrex.  There is
> > an option for NiMh, and it recognizes them differently.
> >
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Stringham" <sstringh@stringham-family.org>
> > To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> > Cc: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???
> >
> >
> >> I use them. I get about 4 hours of life out of them in my etrex. They
> >> start out as being about 1/2 full according to the etrex. So, they are
> >> not
> >> a full 1.5v but rather more like 1.3-1.2v.
> >>
> >> But, they keep recharging and working for me. Costs a lot less than a
> >> batch of new batteries every week.
> >>
> >> Steven Stringham
> >> StringCachers
> >>
> 
> 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 11 02:28:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Marc)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:28:56 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
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On my Garmin vista.....

 From the setup icon - setup, system, should then see battery

Virgil Silhanek wrote:

>I have yet to look on my Sportrak, but is that an option with Magellen
>also?
>
>Virgil
>
>On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 18:16, Steven Stringham wrote:
>  
>
>>Can you share with me where this setting is as I cannot find it.
>>
>>Steven Stringham
>>StringCachers
>>
>>    
>>
>>>You need to change the battery type in the config on your etrex.  There is
>>>an option for NiMh, and it recognizes them differently.
>>>
>>>Brian
>>>Team A.I.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Steven Stringham" <sstringh@stringham-family.org>
>>>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>>>Cc: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:58 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I use them. I get about 4 hours of life out of them in my etrex. They
>>>>start out as being about 1/2 full according to the etrex. So, they are
>>>>not
>>>>a full 1.5v but rather more like 1.3-1.2v.
>>>>
>>>>But, they keep recharging and working for me. Costs a lot less than a
>>>>batch of new batteries every week.
>>>>
>>>>Steven Stringham
>>>>StringCachers
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 11 02:26:50 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (GREGG OBUCH)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
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Not an option on my SporTrak Pro; and I've been using energizer 1850 mAh (1.2V) batteries in it for a long time now.  Not a problem, usually get at least 12 hours out of a single charge.
 
Gregg of MO & GO

Virgil Silhanek <silhanek@cox.net> wrote:
I have yet to look on my Sportrak, but is that an option with Magellen
also?

Virgil

On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 18:16, Steven Stringham wrote:
> Can you share with me where this setting is as I cannot find it.
> 
> Steven Stringham
> StringCachers
> 
> > You need to change the battery type in the config on your etrex. There is
> > an option for NiMh, and it recognizes them differently.
> >
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Stringham" 
> > To: 

> > Cc: 

> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???
> >
> >
> >> I use them. I get about 4 hours of life out of them in my etrex. They
> >> start out as being about 1/2 full according to the etrex. So, they are
> >> not
> >> a full 1.5v but rather more like 1.3-1.2v.
> >>
> >> But, they keep recharging and working for me. Costs a lot less than a
> >> batch of new batteries every week.
> >>
> >> Steven Stringham
> >> StringCachers
> >>
> 
> 
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<DIV>Not an option on my SporTrak Pro; and I've been using energizer 1850 mAh (1.2V) batteries in it for a long time now.&nbsp; Not a problem, usually get at least 12 hours out of a single charge.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Gregg of MO &amp; GO<BR><BR><B><I>Virgil Silhanek &lt;silhanek@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">I have yet to look on my Sportrak, but is that an option with Magellen<BR>also?<BR><BR>Virgil<BR><BR>On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 18:16, Steven Stringham wrote:<BR>&gt; Can you share with me where this setting is as I cannot find it.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Steven Stringham<BR>&gt; StringCachers<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; You need to change the battery type in the config on your etrex. There is<BR>&gt; &gt; an option for NiMh, and it recognizes them differently.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Brian<BR>&gt; &gt; Team A.I.<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: "Steven Stringham" <SSTRINGH@STRINGHAM-FAMILY.ORG><BR>&gt; &gt; To: <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>&gt; &gt; Cc: <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:58 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; I use them. I get about 4 hours
 of life out of them in my etrex. They<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; start out as being about 1/2 full according to the etrex. So, they are<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; not<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; a full 1.5v but rather more like 1.3-1.2v.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; But, they keep recharging and working for me. Costs a lot less than a<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; batch of new batteries every week.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; Steven Stringham<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; StringCachers<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----------------------------------------<BR>&gt; http://stringham-family.org/<BR>&gt; ____________________________________________________________<BR>&gt; Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt; To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>&gt; http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>&gt;
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 11 02:32:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:32:31 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
In-Reply-To: <3F36FF68.8050002@uccinc.net>
Message-ID: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIKEGLDLAA.andy@britishideas.com>

I don't have a Battery setting under Setup -> System on my eTrex Venture, so
this is not a feature of all eTrexs.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Marc
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:29 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???


On my Garmin vista.....

 From the setup icon - setup, system, should then see battery

Virgil Silhanek wrote:

>I have yet to look on my Sportrak, but is that an option with Magellen
>also?
>
>Virgil
>
>On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 18:16, Steven Stringham wrote:
>
>
>>Can you share with me where this setting is as I cannot find it.
>>
>>Steven Stringham
>>StringCachers
>>
>>
>>
>>>You need to change the battery type in the config on your etrex.  There
is
>>>an option for NiMh, and it recognizes them differently.
>>>
>>>Brian
>>>Team A.I.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Steven Stringham" <sstringh@stringham-family.org>
>>>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>>>Cc: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:58 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I use them. I get about 4 hours of life out of them in my etrex. They
>>>>start out as being about 1/2 full according to the etrex. So, they are
>>>>not
>>>>a full 1.5v but rather more like 1.3-1.2v.
>>>>
>>>>But, they keep recharging and working for me. Costs a lot less than a
>>>>batch of new batteries every week.
>>>>
>>>>Steven Stringham
>>>>StringCachers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>-----------------------------------------
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 11 03:01:21 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:01:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Mars
Message-ID: <20030810200121.26887.h016.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Jim,
We've been enjoying a bright, reddish MARS show late in the evening!

A Mars cache would be considered "out of this world" as well as "Out
of State"

Thanks again for all your info.

Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott


On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:49:48 -0700 (MST), Jim Scotti wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Gale Draper wrote:
> 
> > The Moon
> 
> Well, I can see how The Moon might be considered "Out of State"....
> 
> :-))
> 
> Jim.
> 
> Jim Scotti
> Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 11 05:07:48 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Steven Stringham)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:07:48 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh  ???
In-Reply-To: <3F36FF68.8050002@uccinc.net>
References: <001501c3586b$77c092c0$6701a8c0@NOTEBOOK>
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 <2306.172.30.1.10.1060527512.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>
 <002d01c35f5d$eadf0ef0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
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Nope, on my Venture - no battery settings. Must be a upper end feature thing.

Steven Stringham
StringCachers

> On my Garmin vista.....
>
>  From the setup icon - setup, system, should then see battery
>
> Virgil Silhanek wrote:
>
>>I have yet to look on my Sportrak, but is that an option with Magellen
>>also?
>>
>>Virgil
>>
>>On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 18:16, Steven Stringham wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can you share with me where this setting is as I cannot find it.
>>>
>>>Steven Stringham
>>>StringCachers
>>>
>>>



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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 18:39:05 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RopingThe Wind)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:39:05 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Lenmar NiMH 2300mAh ???
Message-ID: <BAY8-F58aLiRKz4fy6C00001291@hotmail.com>

4hours!? I just use the cheapie ni-cad AA's from Rad Shack and two of them 
last for a couple of days...or more in my Etrex Legend  and  I regularly 
have my GPS on for very long periods at a time (like all day sometimes).

Scott
Team Ropingthewind

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 01:13:13 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Akerman)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches outside of Arizona?
Message-ID: <20030812011313.70633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com>

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RopingTheWind wrote:
 
I only cache in state (AZ). . . I do have to say though that there are some really interesting caches up here in WA and look mighty tempting! :)  
 
Scott,
 
Why don't you seek caches outside of Arizona?  There are many interesting caches all over the world.  One of my goals is to find at least one cache in every state.  So far I have AZ, CA, UT, NM, TX, CO, KS, WY, IL, WI, NJ, CT, and OK (virtuals only).  That's 12 states with at least one regular cache found.  
 
How many states have each of you found caches in?  Who has found caches in the most states?  Who has found caches outside the USA, and who has found the caches in the most foreign countries?
 
Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)

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<DIV>RopingTheWind wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM>I only cache in state (AZ). . . I do have to say though that there are some really interesting caches up here in WA and look mighty tempting! :)</EM>&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Scott,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Why don't&nbsp;you seek caches outside of Arizona?&nbsp; There are many interesting caches all over the world.&nbsp; One of my goals is to find at least one cache in every state.&nbsp; So far I have AZ, CA, UT, NM, TX, CO, KS, WY, IL, WI, NJ, CT, and OK (virtuals only).&nbsp; That's 12 states with at least one regular cache found.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>How many states have each of you found caches in?&nbsp; Who has found caches in the most states?&nbsp; Who has found caches outside the USA, and who has found the caches in the most foreign countries?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Ken Akerman</STRONG> (a.k.a. <STRONG><EM>Highpointer</EM></STRONG>)</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 01:22:46 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:22:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches outside of Arizona?
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Since we began caching, we haven't had a chance to go outside of the state. When we do, we will likely do some geocaching. Chances are, we will be selective about which caches we do. The new memorial plaque to the Original Stash will be on our hit list.

Ken Akerman <ken@highpointer.com> wrote:RopingTheWind wrote:
 
I only cache in state (AZ). . . I do have to say though that there are some really interesting caches up here in WA and look mighty tempting! :)  
 
Scott,
 
Why don't you seek caches outside of Arizona?  There are many interesting caches all over the world.  One of my goals is to find at least one cache in every state.  So far I have AZ, CA, UT, NM, TX, CO, KS, WY, IL, WI, NJ, CT, and OK (virtuals only).  That's 12 states with at least one regular cache found.  
 
How many states have each of you found caches in?  Who has found caches in the most states?  Who has found caches outside the USA, and who has found the caches in the most foreign countries?
 
Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)



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<DIV>Since we began caching, we haven't had a chance to go outside of the state. When we do, we will likely do some geocaching. Chances are, we will be selective about which caches we do. The new memorial plaque to the Original Stash will be on our hit list.<BR><BR><B><I>Ken Akerman &lt;ken@highpointer.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV>RopingTheWind wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM>I only cache in state (AZ). . . I do have to say though that there are some really interesting caches up here in WA and look mighty tempting! :)</EM>&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Scott,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Why don't&nbsp;you seek caches outside of Arizona?&nbsp; There are many interesting caches all over the world.&nbsp; One of my goals is to find at least one cache in every state.&nbsp; So far I have AZ, CA, UT, NM, TX, CO, KS, WY, IL, WI, NJ, CT, and OK (virtuals only).&nbsp; That's 12 states with at least one regular cache found.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>How many states have each of you found caches in?&nbsp; Who has found caches in the most states?&nbsp; Who has found caches outside the USA, and who has found the caches in the most foreign countries?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Ken Akerman</STRONG> (a.k.a. <STRONG><EM>Highpointer</EM></STRONG>)</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 01:34:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Loran  Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:34:31 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches outside of Arizona?
References: <20030812011313.70633.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com>
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Another thought for Scott is to start another account on geocaching,com =
for out of state caches. That way you can have the best of both worlds.

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Write now I'm up to 15 states. AZ, CA, TX, OK, KS, MO, IL, MI, IN, OH, =
KY, TN, NC, GA,  FL

Loran (Team Sand Dollar)
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  From: Ken Akerman=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:13 PM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches =
outside of Arizona?


  RopingTheWind wrote:

  I only cache in state (AZ). . . I do have to say though that there are =
some really interesting caches up here in WA and look mighty tempting! =
:) =20

  Scott,

  Why don't you seek caches outside of Arizona?  There are many =
interesting caches all over the world.  One of my goals is to find at =
least one cache in every state.  So far I have AZ, CA, UT, NM, TX, CO, =
KS, WY, IL, WI, NJ, CT, and OK (virtuals only).  That's 12 states with =
at least one regular cache found. =20

  How many states have each of you found caches in?  Who has found =
caches in the most states?  Who has found caches outside the USA, and =
who has found the caches in the most foreign countries?

  Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Loran (Team Sand Dollar)</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 01:32:25 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:32:25 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches outside of Arizona?
Message-ID: <48A303E8.0A08F6E9.0013DAD2@aol.com>

I only have caches in AZ,CA, UT. My utah ones are from my trip to lake Powell.

One of my friends in NM (Timber Forester) and I compete on a "how many states do you have?" level. It is easy to build up #'s in Phoenix but getting #'s in NM is tougher so his numbers game with me is the state numbers.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 02:25:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (WOLFB8)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:25:04 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: maskvolk contacting you from Geocaching.com
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I forwarded you email to me to the email list of az geocacher. Not sure =
if one of them looked or not...I am forwarding this to them also , maybe =
in hope that they will help you out.

peace
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 02:47:40 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:47:40 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: maskvolk contacting you from Geocaching.com
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<sarcasm>Arn't vacation caches great - get other people to do your
maintenence!</sarcasm>

Andy


  -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of WOLFB8
  Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:25 PM
  To: maskvolk
  Cc: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: maskvolk contacting you from Geocaching.com


  I forwarded you email to me to the email list of az geocacher. Not sure if
one of them looked or not...I am forwarding this to them also , maybe in
hope that they will help you out.

  peace
  We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
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    Howdy ma'am!  I believe I had e-mailed you back in April about a
geocache we had hidden at Montezuma's castle.  It turns out that since that
is National Forest, a geocache is not allowed to be placed there.  I was
told I could contact a local geocacher and asked them to retrieve it. I had
spotted your name for the Montezuma's well cache and asked you about
retrieving the cache, and more specifically, the travel bug inside it. Were
you able to do that?  It seems that someone else checked the spot, and could
not find the cache. Would you know anything about it?  If you are unable to
help, please e-mail me back and I will search for someone else.  thanks.

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 02:48:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:48:42 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches outside of Arizona?
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Well, I'm sure I'm not the record holder by a long way, but I've found
caches in the USA, Mexico, Canada and England. Hopefully I will add Germany
to the list in the New Year.

Andy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Ken
Akerman
  Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:13 PM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches outside
of Arizona?


  RopingTheWind wrote:

  I only cache in state (AZ). . . I do have to say though that there are
some really interesting caches up here in WA and look mighty tempting! :)

  Scott,

  Why don't you seek caches outside of Arizona?  There are many interesting
caches all over the world.  One of my goals is to find at least one cache in
every state.  So far I have AZ, CA, UT, NM, TX, CO, KS, WY, IL, WI, NJ, CT,
and OK (virtuals only).  That's 12 states with at least one regular cache
found.

  How many states have each of you found caches in?  Who has found caches in
the most states?  Who has found caches outside the USA, and who has found
the caches in the most foreign countries?

  Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)

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there=20
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tempting!=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Scott,</DIV>
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  <DIV>Why don't&nbsp;you seek caches outside of Arizona?&nbsp; There =
are many=20
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find at=20
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found=20
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and who=20
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From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A blatant cry for help
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This Belgian wants to get locals in Arizona to help speed 10 TB's on their way around the world in a race. These bugs are in Witness Post http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103
 
He asked politely.


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
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<DIV>This Belgian wants to get locals in Arizona to help speed 10 TB's on their way around the world in a race. These bugs are in Witness Post <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103">http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>He asked politely.</DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 15:18:46 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:18:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A blatant cry for help
Message-ID: <20030812081847.13607.h012.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

OK, all you hard-core Phoenix geocachers! The challenge has been given
and the race is on! Phoenix to Seligman...hmmm....nice long drive. BUt
not as far as Belgium!
I've done "Witness Post". Maybe I could get up there and move some of
those bugs but it wouldn't be until this weekend at the earliest and I
could only move them to Prescott, which is famous for stalling TB's,
right Highpointer? :-)

Guess the Belgian cacher chose this cache for it's location along
I-40, hoping it would get alot of traffic moving thru. Hope he's
right, it's a fine cache.

Ready, set, go!
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott


On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:47:30 -0700 (PDT), Gale Draper wrote:

http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4416058331&m=86360967
 
This Belgian wants to get locals in Arizona to help speed 10 TB's on
their way around the world in a race. These bugs are in Witness Post
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103
 
He asked politely.Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang
interminable changes  On one everlasting Whisper day and night
repeated -- so:"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind
the Ranges --  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for
you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 17:40:28 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:40:28 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
Message-ID: <009601c360f8$d1b2ae90$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

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/me looks conspicuously at Connie

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 18:48:24 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Carlos Gamez)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:48:24 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #1355 - 3 msgs
In-Reply-To: <200308121905.MAA17073@ns2.sequoia.net>
Message-ID: <NHBBLCGHELNIANNFAONAOEEPCDAA.carlos.gamez@ups-scs.com>

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   3. Wow! (Brian Casteel)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gale Draper <sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com>
To: list <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A blatant cry for help
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http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4416058331&m=863609
67

This Belgian wants to get locals in Arizona to help speed 10 TB's on their
way around the world in a race. These bugs are in Witness Post
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103

He asked politely.


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"



Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV><A
href="http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&amp;s=5726007311&amp;f=44160
58331&amp;m=86360967">http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&amp;s=572600
7311&amp;f=4416058331&amp;m=86360967</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This Belgian wants to get locals in Arizona to help speed 10 TB's on
their way around the world in a race. These bugs are in Witness Post <A
href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103">http://www
.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>He asked politely.</DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice,
as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting
Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and
find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind
the Rangees. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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Message: 2
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
From: "Trisha" <trisha@brasher.com>
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] A blatant cry for help
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:18:46 -0700 (MST)
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

OK, all you hard-core Phoenix geocachers! The challenge has been given
and the race is on! Phoenix to Seligman...hmmm....nice long drive. BUt
not as far as Belgium!
I've done "Witness Post". Maybe I could get up there and move some of
those bugs but it wouldn't be until this weekend at the earliest and I
could only move them to Prescott, which is famous for stalling TB's,
right Highpointer? :-)

Guess the Belgian cacher chose this cache for it's location along
I-40, hoping it would get alot of traffic moving thru. Hope he's
right, it's a fine cache.

Ready, set, go!
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott


On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:47:30 -0700 (PDT), Gale Draper wrote:

http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4416058331&m=863609
67

This Belgian wants to get locals in Arizona to help speed 10 TB's on
their way around the world in a race. These bugs are in Witness Post
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103

He asked politely.Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang
interminable changes  On one everlasting Whisper day and night
repeated -- so:"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind
the Ranges --  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for
you. Go!"



Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898
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Message: 3
From: "Brian Casteel" <bcasteel@cox.net>
To: "AZ Geocaching" <az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:40:28 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 18:56:21 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:56:21 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #1355 - 3 msgs
In-Reply-To: <NHBBLCGHELNIANNFAONAOEEPCDAA.carlos.gamez@ups-scs.com>
Message-ID: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIMEIKDLAA.andy@britishideas.com>

Help with what? You need to be just a little bit more specific.

Andy


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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:48 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #1355 - 3 msgs


HELP



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 19:49:54 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Webb Pickersgill)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:49:54 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
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WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the
party?  :)

TheWebbman
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  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian
Casteel
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
  To: AZ Geocaching
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


  Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for reaching the millenia-mark
of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the event cache to mark the occasion?

  /me looks conspicuously at Connie

  Brian
  Team A.I.

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 19:53:08 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:53:08 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A blatant cry for help
Message-ID: <7B6FB0D8.2C57C5E2.0013DAD2@aol.com>

I'm going to Seligman this weekend. I'll try and grab a few bugs and get them moving.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 21:48:23 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Henson)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:48:23 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #1355 - 3 msgs
In-Reply-To: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIMEIKDLAA.andy@britishideas.com>
Message-ID: <B272A466-CD0E-11D7-96BB-000393A13A32@cableone.net>

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On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 11:56 AM, Andrew Ayre wrote:

> Help with what? You need to be just a little bit more specific.
>

Help?

Help with getting 10 Travel Bugs moving east.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103


 From the cache page:
======================================================
August 11 by Aquosus (Aquosus) (26 found)
You can [delete] or [permanently encrypt] this log entry.
I'm on my way from Belgium to Utah together with my wife and daughter. 
We have flown, driven and walked over 10 350 km !! Now we have stopped 
to leave in this cache a couple of travelbugs and start a race with 10 
participants. I think this location is very well picked to be the place 
to start the race !!
The winner of this 10 participating bug of this TransAtlantic Travel 
Bug race will be the one that succeeds in getting logged in a Belgium 
cache first. All these travelbugs have only one goal : getting back 
again as fast as possible to Belgium. I wish every participant a nice 
journey, and may they alle arrive.

Greetings from Belgium.

======================================================

I am going to pick up five of these travel bugs and place them in:

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=69291

on Wednesday, August 13, 2003.

Maybe someone will get them to the Phoenix area where they can start 
east?

The folks from Belgium wrote me several months ago and asked if there 
would be room for that many TBs in the cache.  I thought there would be.

Hope several of these TBs make it home to Belgium.

~ Lincoln    (aka - Ken)
Prescott


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On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 11:56 AM, Andrew Ayre wrote:


<excerpt>Help with what? You need to be just a little bit more
specific.


</excerpt>

Help?


Help with getting 10 Travel Bugs moving east.


http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=27103



>From the cache page:

======================================================

<bold><fontfamily><param>Verdana</param>August 11 by
Aquosus</fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Verdana</param> (Aquosus)
(26 found)<bold>

You can [delete] or [permanently encrypt] this log entry.</bold>

I'm on my way from Belgium to Utah together with my wife and daughter.
We have flown, driven and walked over 10 350 km !! Now we have stopped
to leave in this cache a couple of travelbugs and start a race with 10
participants. I think this location is very well picked to be the
place to start the race !!

The winner of this 10 participating bug of this TransAtlantic Travel
Bug race will be the one that succeeds in getting logged in a Belgium
cache first. All these travelbugs have only one goal : getting back
again as fast as possible to Belgium. I wish every participant a nice
journey, and may they alle arrive. 


Greetings from Belgium.


======================================================


I am going to pick up five of these travel bugs and place them in:


http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=69291


on Wednesday, August 13, 2003.


Maybe someone will get them to the Phoenix area where they can start
east?


The folks from Belgium wrote me several months ago and asked if there
would be room for that many TBs in the cache.  I thought there would
be.


Hope several of these TBs make it home to Belgium.


~ Lincoln    (aka - Ken)

Prescott


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 12 22:47:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:47:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
Message-ID: <20030812154704.21787.h016.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

CONGRATS to Larry and his family!!
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott




On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:40:28 -0700, "Brian Casteel" wrote:








Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for 
reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the
event 
cache to mark the occasion?
 
/me looks conspicuously at Connie
 
Brian
Team A.I.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 05:49:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Angela)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 22:49:56 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan cache found!
In-Reply-To: <EBF41E098572D2119CAF00805F1991A3036FD779@tpe-nt-ex1.phx.eclipsnet.com>
Message-ID: <002701c35e3a$12ec0e40$6501a8c0@pavilion>

Thanks Grandpa LazyK!  We also need to mention that CopyCache was also
part of the First Find team.  We had a great time over the past few
days---thanks everyone!

Angela 
Aus Dem Kasten

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[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
Koch, Dan
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:10 PM
To: 'listserv@azgeocaching.com'
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan cache found!

The Magellan cache has been found!

My congratulations go out to Tamo's Clan'Destiny and Aus Dem Kasten for
their insane find!

LazyK - Dan
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug  9 20:19:29 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Marc)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 13:19:29 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Magellan Cache Hunt
In-Reply-To: <20030809104856.5783.h015.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>
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Here are some pics...

Tamo

Trisha wrote:

>Hey all you Magellan hunters:
>For those of us who are geographically and otherwise-challenged, but
>interested in what happened, care to share about how the clues were
>given, how you figgered it out, and how you found the cache, and what
>you won???
>No, I did not log into the site, why bother? I couldn't go for it
>anyway. But any details would be greatly appreciated. Elect your best
>story teller, or more than one for a variety...I'm sure there are a
>few of us who are curious and want to cache vicariously and hear all
>the story!
>Thanks
>Trisha "Lightning"
>Prescott
>
>PS if anybody tells me this is off-topic.....I'll....grrrrr.....never
>mind.
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:56:32 -0700 (PDT), Gale Draper wrote:
>
>Beats me. I wasn't the odds maker or the bookie. I did lose though. My
>money wasn't on you, sorry.Marc <webmaster@uccinc.net> wrote:
>Gale - Just want to know what the odds were for the underdogs???? and
>how much did we
>win??Tamo____________________________________________________________
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 10 01:11:19 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 21:11:19 EDT
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Dogs in Mesa Parks
Message-ID: <a9.45e21625.2c66f5b7@aol.com>

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I just happen to come across some comments on your website about dogs in Mesa 
Parks. There are references to additional comments -- but where are the 
additional comments? I can't seem to find them. I am interested in the issue 
because I work closely with the City of Mesa and am absolutely disguested at that 
city's intolerance for good, clean, normal, safe park activities like walking 
dogs.

- Leo

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 02:15:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Akerman)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:15:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] What to do if you find a travel bug in a cache that has not yet been logged into that cache?  Answer here
Message-ID: <20030813021531.3071.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>

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Geocachers, 
 
Sometimes you may get a travel bug from a cache, and when you go to log your retrieval of the travel bug, you note that the geocacher who put the travel bug in the cache has yet to log the travel bug in the cache.  This may happen when you grab a travel bug a very short time after the bug when placed in the cache, or when you grab a travel bug placed by geocachers from outside the local area who may not have ready access to the Internet and thus may be unable to log their geocaching visits for several days.
 
If you simply "grab" the travel bug, the travel bug will not earn credit for its visit to the cache that you retrieved it from, and thus the travel bug will not earn credit for the mileage gained.  This will result in an incomplete log history for the travel bug.  Therefore, I will present a solution to solve this problem, and I will illustrate it with an example.
 
Say you visit Have Bug, Will Travel after work one day, and in it you find the travel bug Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHead Bug which was placed by a geocacher who then boarded a flight to Japan right after placing the bug, and thus could not log his visit.  The travel bug is not shown as being in the cache but is still listed in the possession of the geocacher who put it there.  
 
Here is what you need to do.  Go to the travel bug page and enter the six-digit dogtag number for the travel bug before entering your log entry for Have Bug, Will Travel.  Next, go to the page for Have Bug, Will Travel and log your visit.  At the bottom of the Log a Find page, in the section Dropped off a traveller?, select Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug from your inventory to place this travel bug in the cache.  The travel bug will thereby earn credit for its visit to the cache.
 
Next, go back to the cache page for Have Bug, Will Travel and click on Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug under Travel Bugs have been seen in this cache next to the travel bug symbol in the upper right-hand corner.  Enter the six-digit dogtag number again to retrieve this travel bug and put it back in your inventory.  Move the travel bug to another cache as you normally would.
 
I hope that all geocachers do this to any travel bug that they find in a cache that has not yet been logged in the cache.  This will help travel bugs earn credits for all of their visits to caches and will help ensure that travel bugs have complete travel histories.

Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)  

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<DIV>Geocachers, </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sometimes you may get a travel bug from a cache, and when you go to log your retrieval of the travel bug, you note that the geocacher who put the travel bug in the cache has yet to log the travel bug in the cache.&nbsp; This may happen when you grab a travel bug a very short time after the bug when placed in the cache, or when you grab&nbsp;a travel bug placed by geocachers from outside the local area who may not have ready access to the Internet and thus may be unable to log their geocaching visits for several days.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If you simply "grab" the travel bug, the travel bug will not earn credit for its visit to the cache that you retrieved it from, and thus the travel bug will not earn credit for the mileage gained.&nbsp;&nbsp;This will result in an incomplete log history for the travel bug.&nbsp; Therefore, I will present a solution to solve this problem, and I will illustrate it with an example.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Say you visit <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=bb3fb66c-f7a3-4f12-8db7-05e7eef61e49">Have Bug, Will Travel</A> after work one day, and in it you find the travel bug <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/track/track_detail.asp?ID=37365">Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHead Bug</A> which was placed by a geocacher who then boarded a flight to Japan right after placing the bug, and thus could not log his visit.&nbsp; The travel bug is not shown as being in the cache but is still listed in the possession of the geocacher who put it there.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Here is what you need to do.&nbsp; Go to the<A href="http://www.geocaching.com/track/track_detail.asp?ID=37365"> travel bug page</A> and enter the six-digit dogtag number for the travel bug before entering your log entry for <U>Have Bug, Will Travel</U>.&nbsp; Next, go to the page for <U>Have Bug, Will Travel</U> and&nbsp;log your visit.&nbsp; At the bottom of the<STRONG> Log a Find</STRONG> page, in the section <STRONG>Dropped off a traveller?</STRONG>, select <U>Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug</U> from your inventory to <U>place</U> this travel bug in the cache.&nbsp; The travel bug will thereby earn credit for its visit to the cache.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Next,&nbsp;go back to the cache page for&nbsp;<U>Have Bug, Will Travel</U> and click on <U>Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug</U> under <FONT face=Verdana size=1>Travel Bugs have been seen in this cache <FONT face=arial size=2>next to the travel bug symbol in the upper right-hand corner.&nbsp; Enter the six-digit dogtag number again to <U>retrieve</U> this travel bug and put it back in your inventory.&nbsp;&nbsp;Move&nbsp;the travel bug to another cache as you normally would.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=1><FONT face=arial size=2></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=1><FONT face=arial size=2>I hope that all geocachers&nbsp;do this to&nbsp;any travel bug that they find in a cache that has not yet&nbsp;been logged in the cache.&nbsp; This will help&nbsp;travel bugs earn credits for all of their visits to caches and will help ensure that travel bugs have complete travel histories.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=1><FONT face=arial size=2><BR><STRONG>Ken Akerman</STRONG> (a.k.a. <STRONG><EM>Highpointer</EM></STRONG>)&nbsp; </FONT></FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 02:08:03 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (jeanne williams)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Dogs in Mesa Parks
In-Reply-To: <a9.45e21625.2c66f5b7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20030813020803.14061.qmail@web21412.mail.yahoo.com>

Az. in general is behind the times when it comes to
dogs. That is why their shelters are over flowing and
what few dog parks that are out there are overrun.
Good Luck,

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 05:54:28 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Marc Tamis)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:54:28 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Approvals???
Message-ID: <3F39D294.5010305@uccinc.net>

Is anyone else having problems getting new caches approved??



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 05:58:21 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:58:21 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Approvals???
References: <3F39D294.5010305@uccinc.net>
Message-ID: <004501c3615f$e6bb7c60$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

Maybe the text on your cache pages is shrinking to the equivalent of your
latest string of caches, and the approvers are having a hard time reading
the info.

*smirk*

Brian
Team A.I.

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 05:53:46 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RopingThe Wind)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:53:46 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches outside of Arizona?
Message-ID: <BAY8-F114j7dboSyIGj00006b22@hotmail.com>

Actually, That would be kind of a cool goal.... finding a cache in every 
state.  My reason I only cache in AZ is primarily because when I do go out 
of state, I travel to balloon competitions and I try to stay focused on 
that. So, other than light sightseeing, I prefer not to cache. However, this 
is a different situation. I am up here 'working' (if you want to call this 
work! :)) and I do have some down time that I could go caching. Loran 
mentioned starting a new account for logging out of state finds...I had 
actually  been thinking about that and might just do that. Otherwise, AZ has 
over 1000 caches I have yet to find! So, why complicate that anymore with 
the millions of caches out of state!!!  :)

Scott
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 06:09:58 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:09:58 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches outside of Arizona?
References: <BAY8-F114j7dboSyIGj00006b22@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <004d01c36161$8617bb10$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

Maybe it's just me, but aside from it borking your stats (which you didn't
have a problem with a few days ago), I don't see what caching OOS has to do
with the 1000+ caches left to be found.  Did someone implement a cache finds
quota that I didn't know about?  For every cache OOS you find, you can find
that many less in your home state?  ;p

Brian
Team A.I.

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To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Why don't some geocaches look for caches
outside of Arizona?


> Actually, That would be kind of a cool goal.... finding a cache in every
> state.  My reason I only cache in AZ is primarily because when I do go out
> of state, I travel to balloon competitions and I try to stay focused on
> that. So, other than light sightseeing, I prefer not to cache. However,
this
> is a different situation. I am up here 'working' (if you want to call this
> work! :)) and I do have some down time that I could go caching. Loran
> mentioned starting a new account for logging out of state finds...I had
> actually  been thinking about that and might just do that. Otherwise, AZ
has
> over 1000 caches I have yet to find! So, why complicate that anymore with
> the millions of caches out of state!!!  :)
>
> Scott
> Team Ropingthewind
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 06:13:54 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Marc Tamis)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:13:54 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Approvals???
In-Reply-To: <004501c3615f$e6bb7c60$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
References: <3F39D294.5010305@uccinc.net> <004501c3615f$e6bb7c60$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
Message-ID: <3F39D722.9040008@uccinc.net>

Ironically that is one of the complaints!!

Brian Casteel wrote:

>Maybe the text on your cache pages is shrinking to the equivalent of your
>latest string of caches, and the approvers are having a hard time reading
>the info.
>
>*smirk*
>
>Brian
>Team A.I.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
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>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:54 PM
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Approvals???
>
>
>  
>
>>Is anyone else having problems getting new caches approved??
>>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 06:11:08 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:11:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Approvals???
In-Reply-To: <004501c3615f$e6bb7c60$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
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LOL

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:Maybe the text on your cache pages is shrinking to the equivalent of your
latest string of caches, and the approvers are having a hard time reading
the info.

*smirk*

Brian
Team A.I.

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: 

Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:54 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Approvals???


> Is anyone else having problems getting new caches approved??
>
>
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Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>LOL<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Maybe the text on your cache pages is shrinking to the equivalent of your<BR>latest string of caches, and the approvers are having a hard time reading<BR>the info.<BR><BR>*smirk*<BR><BR>Brian<BR>Team A.I.<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Marc Tamis" <WEBMASTER@UCCINC.NET><BR>To: <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:54 PM<BR>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Approvals???<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Is anyone else having problems getting new caches approved??<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ____________________________________________________________<BR>&gt; Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt; To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>&gt; http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>&gt;
 http://www.azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt;<BR><BR><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 07:38:12 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] international caches
Message-ID: <20030813073812.87174.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com>

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An interesting cache in Venezuela http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=40024e22-7ca1-4ba6-ac7c-064140b68d2d
 
Caribbean fun http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=317c54b8-1ef1-4a59-876c-d9283538ea21
 
 


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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>An interesting cache in Venezuela <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=40024e22-7ca1-4ba6-ac7c-064140b68d2d">http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=40024e22-7ca1-4ba6-ac7c-064140b68d2d</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Caribbean fun <A href="http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=317c54b8-1ef1-4a59-876c-d9283538ea21">http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=317c54b8-1ef1-4a59-876c-d9283538ea21</A></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 11:09:20 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (xWaterLilyx)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:09:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] What to do if you find a travel bug in a cache that has not yet been logged into that cache?  Answer here
In-Reply-To: <20030813021531.3071.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20030813110920.34206.qmail@web14812.mail.yahoo.com>

Why not simply post a note to the travel bug log
saying you retrieved it but will wait a day or two for
the original hider to log their visit but that the bug
is safe in your possession?  This way the log is
completely accurate for who had the bug when.

I can understand doing this if perhaps the person
NEVER logs it, but in your example the bug should be
logged within a day or two after the drop off and the
plane lands.  **note I didn't look at the links and
didn't read any of the examples**   But I can say I'd
be a little peeved if I got home to log my dropping
off the bug to find it had been done for me by
somebody else just because I hadn't been able to do it
yet.


--- Ken Akerman <ken@highpointer.com> wrote:
> Geocachers, 
>  
> Sometimes you may get a travel bug from a cache, and
> when you go to log your retrieval of the travel bug,
> you note that the geocacher who put the travel bug
> in the cache has yet to log the travel bug in the
> cache.  This may happen when you grab a travel bug a
> very short time after the bug when placed in the
> cache, or when you grab a travel bug placed by
> geocachers from outside the local area who may not
> have ready access to the Internet and thus may be
> unable to log their geocaching visits for several
> days.
>  
> If you simply "grab" the travel bug, the travel bug
> will not earn credit for its visit to the cache that
> you retrieved it from, and thus the travel bug will
> not earn credit for the mileage gained.  This will
> result in an incomplete log history for the travel
> bug.  Therefore, I will present a solution to solve
> this problem, and I will illustrate it with an
> example.
>  
> Say you visit Have Bug, Will Travel after work one
> day, and in it you find the travel bug Ichiro Suzuki
> Mini BobbleHead Bug which was placed by a geocacher
> who then boarded a flight to Japan right after
> placing the bug, and thus could not log his visit. 
> The travel bug is not shown as being in the cache
> but is still listed in the possession of the
> geocacher who put it there.  
>  
> Here is what you need to do.  Go to the travel bug
> page and enter the six-digit dogtag number for the
> travel bug before entering your log entry for Have
> Bug, Will Travel.  Next, go to the page for Have
> Bug, Will Travel and log your visit.  At the bottom
> of the Log a Find page, in the section Dropped off a
> traveller?, select Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug
> from your inventory to place this travel bug in the
> cache.  The travel bug will thereby earn credit for
> its visit to the cache.
>  
> Next, go back to the cache page for Have Bug, Will
> Travel and click on Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug
> under Travel Bugs have been seen in this cache next
> to the travel bug symbol in the upper right-hand
> corner.  Enter the six-digit dogtag number again to
> retrieve this travel bug and put it back in your
> inventory.  Move the travel bug to another cache as
> you normally would.
>  
> I hope that all geocachers do this to any travel bug
> that they find in a cache that has not yet been
> logged in the cache.  This will help travel bugs
> earn credits for all of their visits to caches and
> will help ensure that travel bugs have complete
> travel histories.
> 
> Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)  
> 


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 12:36:59 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 05:36:59 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
In-Reply-To: <004901c3610a$e75f5e20$6501010a@pickersgill.local>
Message-ID: <00f401c36197$96dc93e0$1e01a8c0@connie>

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Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a little more
friendly.
Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach this landmark, and
he was able to achieve this by having the free time of an unemployed person
(at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with the finding of the "Free
Wyle E" cache. Thank you Dan for a nice cache.
Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
--Connie
Team "Wyle E"
  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Webb
Pickersgill
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


  WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the
party?  :)

  TheWebbman
    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian
Casteel
    Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
    To: AZ Geocaching
    Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


    Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for reaching the
millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the event cache to mark
the occasion?

    /me looks conspicuously at Connie

    Brian
    Team A.I.

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 16:26:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:26:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] What to do if you find a travel bug in a cache that has not yet been logged into that cache?  Answer here
Message-ID: <20030813092608.23027.h009.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Ken,

These are very good instructions, thanks for making it clear.

Let's just hope that the geocacher who hopped on the plane to Japan
(in your example) isn't TOO disappointed that he/she doesn't get a
chance to "drop" the TB into the cache, a part of their history with
the TB, when they finally get to their computer!

The point I am trying to make is that, if it a recent drop off, maybe
wait a day or two to log it, or email the previous person and wait a
day or two for the answer....just in case it is a matter of a delay in
computer access. This is probably a minority of cases, but it does
happen. Then if you get no answer, your (Ken's) instructions for
logging the bug work great.

I've been in the situation of a delay in computer access (between
Prescott and Reno) and I know I would have been upset if someone
"snagged the TB out of my hands" before I had a chance to log it
properly.

Just a couple pennies,
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott



On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:15:31 -0700 (PDT), Ken Akerman wrote:

Geocachers, 
 
Sometimes you may get a travel bug from a cache, and when you go to
log your retrieval of the travel bug, you note that the geocacher who
put the travel bug in the cache has yet to log the travel bug in the
cache.  This may happen when you grab a travel bug a very short time
after the bug when placed in the cache, or when you grab a travel bug
placed by geocachers from outside the local area who may not have
ready access to the Internet and thus may be unable to log their
geocaching visits for several days.
 
If you simply "grab" the travel bug, the travel bug will not earn
credit for its visit to the cache that you retrieved it from, and thus
the travel bug will not earn credit for the mileage gained.  This will
result in an incomplete log history for the travel bug.  Therefore, I
will present a solution to solve this problem, and I will illustrate
it with an example.
 
Say you visit Have Bug, Will Travel after work one day, and in it you
find the travel bug Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHead Bug which was placed
by a geocacher who then boarded a flight to Japan right after placing
the bug, and thus could not log his visit.  The travel bug is not
shown as being in the cache but is still listed in the possession of
the geocacher who put it there.  
 
Here is what you need to do.  Go to the travel bug page and enter the
six-digit dogtag number for the travel bug before entering your log
entry for Have Bug, Will Travel.  Next, go to the page for Have Bug,
Will Travel and log your visit.  At the bottom of the Log a Find page,
in the section Dropped off a traveller?, select Ichiro Suzuki Mini
BobbleHeadBug from your inventory to place this travel bug in the
cache.  The travel bug will thereby earn credit for its visit to the
cache.
 
Next, go back to the cache page for Have Bug, Will Travel and click on
Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug under Travel Bugs have been seen in
this cache next to the travel bug symbol in the upper right-hand
corner.  Enter the six-digit dogtag number again to retrieve this
travel bug and put it back in your inventory.  Move the travel bug to
another cache as you normally would.
 
I hope that all geocachers do this to any travel bug that they find in
a cache that has not yet been logged in the cache.  This will
help travel bugs earn credits for all of their visits to caches and
will help ensure that travel bugs have complete travel histories.
Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)  

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 16:28:47 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:28:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] What to do if you find a travel bug in a cache that has not yet been logged into that cache?  Answer here
Message-ID: <20030813092847.21491.h009.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Uh, ditto....guess I didn't read Waterlily's post before writing mine!
Sorry for the duplication.....
Trisha


On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:09:20 -0700 (PDT), xWaterLilyx wrote:

> 
> Why not simply post a note to the travel bug log
> saying you retrieved it but will wait a day or two for
> the original hider to log their visit but that the bug
> is safe in your possession?  This way the log is
> completely accurate for who had the bug when.
> 
> I can understand doing this if perhaps the person
> NEVER logs it, but in your example the bug should be
> logged within a day or two after the drop off and the
> plane lands.  **note I didn't look at the links and
> didn't read any of the examples**   But I can say I'd
> be a little peeved if I got home to log my dropping
> off the bug to find it had been done for me by
> somebody else just because I hadn't been able to do it
> yet.
> 
> 
> --- Ken Akerman <ken@highpointer.com> wrote:
> > Geocachers, 
> >  
> > Sometimes you may get a travel bug from a cache, and
> > when you go to log your retrieval of the travel bug,
> > you note that the geocacher who put the travel bug
> > in the cache has yet to log the travel bug in the
> > cache.  This may happen when you grab a travel bug a
> > very short time after the bug when placed in the
> > cache, or when you grab a travel bug placed by
> > geocachers from outside the local area who may not
> > have ready access to the Internet and thus may be
> > unable to log their geocaching visits for several
> > days.
> >  
> > If you simply "grab" the travel bug, the travel bug
> > will not earn credit for its visit to the cache that
> > you retrieved it from, and thus the travel bug will
> > not earn credit for the mileage gained.  This will
> > result in an incomplete log history for the travel
> > bug.  Therefore, I will present a solution to solve
> > this problem, and I will illustrate it with an
> > example.
> >  
> > Say you visit Have Bug, Will Travel after work one
> > day, and in it you find the travel bug Ichiro Suzuki
> > Mini BobbleHead Bug which was placed by a geocacher
> > who then boarded a flight to Japan right after
> > placing the bug, and thus could not log his visit. 
> > The travel bug is not shown as being in the cache
> > but is still listed in the possession of the
> > geocacher who put it there.  
> >  
> > Here is what you need to do.  Go to the travel bug
> > page and enter the six-digit dogtag number for the
> > travel bug before entering your log entry for Have
> > Bug, Will Travel.  Next, go to the page for Have
> > Bug, Will Travel and log your visit.  At the bottom
> > of the Log a Find page, in the section Dropped off a
> > traveller?, select Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug
> > from your inventory to place this travel bug in the
> > cache.  The travel bug will thereby earn credit for
> > its visit to the cache.
> >  
> > Next, go back to the cache page for Have Bug, Will
> > Travel and click on Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug
> > under Travel Bugs have been seen in this cache next
> > to the travel bug symbol in the upper right-hand
> > corner.  Enter the six-digit dogtag number again to
> > retrieve this travel bug and put it back in your
> > inventory.  Move the travel bug to another cache as
> > you normally would.
> >  
> > I hope that all geocachers do this to any travel bug
> > that they find in a cache that has not yet been
> > logged in the cache.  This will help travel bugs
> > earn credits for all of their visits to caches and
> > will help ensure that travel bugs have complete
> > travel histories.
> > 
> > Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)  
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> xWaterLilyx & RTF
> Team H20
> Phoenix, AZ (Ahwatukee)
> 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 16:26:48 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:26:48 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
References: <00f401c36197$96dc93e0$1e01a8c0@connie>
Message-ID: <007a01c361b7$b203aa80$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

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Unemployed?  :(  Everytime I hear about that with someone, I am saddened =
by it, because I know what it feels like and how deeply it affected me.

I'm glad you were able to find some joy in reaching this milestone =
(which is no small feat), and I look forward to your 2000th find.  :D

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: connie.farquhar@cox.net=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


  Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a little more =
friendly.
  Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach this =
landmark, and he was able to achieve this by having the free time of an =
unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with the =
finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you Dan for a nice cache.
  Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
  --Connie
  Team "Wyle E"
    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Webb =
Pickersgill
    Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


    WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle E!  So, =
where's the party?  :)

    TheWebbman
      -----Original Message-----
      From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian =
Casteel
      Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
      To: AZ Geocaching
      Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


      Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for reaching the =
millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the event cache to =
mark the occasion?

      /me looks conspicuously at Connie

      Brian
      Team A.I.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Unemployed?&nbsp; :(&nbsp; Everytime I =
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like and=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm glad you were able to find some joy =
in reaching=20
this milestone (which is no small feat), and I look forward to your =
2000th=20
find.&nbsp; :D</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dconnie.farquhar@cox.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:connie.farquhar@cox.net">connie.farquhar@cox.net</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 5:36=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Wow!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a =
little more=20
  friendly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach =
this=20
  landmark, and he was able to achieve this by&nbsp;having the free time =
of=20
  an&nbsp;unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th =
find with=20
  the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
  class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thank you Dan=20
  for a nice cache.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thanks to everyone for their=20
  congratulations.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D490263303-13082003>--Connie</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D490263303-13082003>Team=20
  "Wyle E"</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
    [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf =
Of</B>=20
    Webb Pickersgill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50=20
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
    [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>WOW!&nbsp;**I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy** &nbsp;Congrats =
Wyle=20
    E!&nbsp; So, where's the party?&nbsp; :)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>TheWebbman</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
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      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
      az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
      [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf =
Of=20
      </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40=20
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching]=20
      Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congrats to the recently =
re-obsessed Wyle E=20
      for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!&nbsp; Who's going to =
throw=20
      the event cache to mark the occasion?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me looks conspicuously at=20
Connie</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 16:56:11 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:56:11 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
References: <00f401c36197$96dc93e0$1e01a8c0@connie> <007a01c361b7$b203aa80$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
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What about everyone who can pitch in at the event cache and treat the =
Wyle E clan to a nice Breakfast????
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Brian Casteel=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


  Unemployed?  :(  Everytime I hear about that with someone, I am =
saddened by it, because I know what it feels like and how deeply it =
affected me.

  I'm glad you were able to find some joy in reaching this milestone =
(which is no small feat), and I look forward to your 2000th find.  :D

  Brian
  Team A.I.
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: connie.farquhar@cox.net=20
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


    Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a little more =
friendly.
    Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach this =
landmark, and he was able to achieve this by having the free time of an =
unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with the =
finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you Dan for a nice cache.
    Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
    --Connie
    Team "Wyle E"
      -----Original Message-----
      From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Webb =
Pickersgill
      Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
      Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


      WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle E!  So, =
where's the party?  :)

      TheWebbman
        -----Original Message-----
        From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian =
Casteel
        Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
        To: AZ Geocaching
        Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


        Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for reaching the =
millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the event cache to =
mark the occasion?

        /me looks conspicuously at Connie

        Brian
        Team A.I.
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  <A title=3Dbcasteel@cox.net href=3D"mailto:bcasteel@cox.net">Brian =
Casteel</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
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Wow!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Unemployed?&nbsp; :(&nbsp; Everytime =
I hear about=20
  that with someone, I am saddened by it, because I know what it feels =
like and=20
  how deeply it affected me.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm glad you were able to find some =
joy in=20
  reaching this milestone (which is no small feat), and I look forward =
to your=20
  2000th find.&nbsp; :D</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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    <A title=3Dconnie.farquhar@cox.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:connie.farquhar@cox.net">connie.farquhar@cox.net</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 5:36=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Wow!</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a =
little more=20
    friendly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach =
this=20
    landmark, and he was able to achieve this by&nbsp;having the free =
time of=20
    an&nbsp;unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th =
find with=20
    the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
    class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thank you Dan=20
    for a nice cache.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanks to=20
    everyone for their congratulations.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D490263303-13082003>--Connie</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D490263303-13082003>Team "Wyle E"</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
      az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
      [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf =
Of</B>=20
      Webb Pickersgill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50=20
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
      [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>WOW!&nbsp;**I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy** =
&nbsp;Congrats Wyle=20
      E!&nbsp; So, where's the party?&nbsp; :)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>TheWebbman</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
        az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
        [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On =
Behalf Of=20
        </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 =

        AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
        Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congrats to the recently =
re-obsessed Wyle E=20
        for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!&nbsp; Who's going =
to throw=20
        the event cache to mark the occasion?</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me looks conspicuously at=20
        Connie</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 17:04:08 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Mark Heitowit)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:04:08 -0700
Subject: [Re: [Az-Geocaching] What to do if you find a travel bug in a
 cache that has not yet been logged into that cache?  Answer here]
Message-ID: <402HHmRei8672S10.1060794248@cmsweb10.cms.usa.net>

When I drop off a TB, if I am not sure that I will be logging it the same day,
I will attatch a note to it saying when I expect to be able to log it and ask
that the finder wait until I log it.

I have also logged a retrieval on a TB (not using Ken's suggestion) and was
then contacted by the previous holder asking me to remove my entries so that
he could log it first.  So now if I see that the TB is not listed as being
located in the cache where I found it I will wait a day or so before logging
it.

"Trisha" <trisha@brasher.com> wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> These are very good instructions, thanks for making it clear.
> 
> Let's just hope that the geocacher who hopped on the plane to Japan
> (in your example) isn't TOO disappointed that he/she doesn't get a
> chance to "drop" the TB into the cache, a part of their history with
> the TB, when they finally get to their computer!
> 
> The point I am trying to make is that, if it a recent drop off, maybe
> wait a day or two to log it, or email the previous person and wait a
> day or two for the answer....just in case it is a matter of a delay in
> computer access. This is probably a minority of cases, but it does
> happen. Then if you get no answer, your (Ken's) instructions for
> logging the bug work great.
> 
> I've been in the situation of a delay in computer access (between
> Prescott and Reno) and I know I would have been upset if someone
> "snagged the TB out of my hands" before I had a chance to log it
> properly.
> 
> Just a couple pennies,
> Trisha "Lightning"
> Prescott
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:15:31 -0700 (PDT), Ken Akerman wrote:
> 
> Geocachers, 
>  
> Sometimes you may get a travel bug from a cache, and when you go to
> log your retrieval of the travel bug, you note that the geocacher who
> put the travel bug in the cache has yet to log the travel bug in the
> cache.  This may happen when you grab a travel bug a very short time
> after the bug when placed in the cache, or when you grab a travel bug
> placed by geocachers from outside the local area who may not have
> ready access to the Internet and thus may be unable to log their
> geocaching visits for several days.
>  
> If you simply "grab" the travel bug, the travel bug will not earn
> credit for its visit to the cache that you retrieved it from, and thus
> the travel bug will not earn credit for the mileage gained.  This will
> result in an incomplete log history for the travel bug.  Therefore, I
> will present a solution to solve this problem, and I will illustrate
> it with an example.
>  
> Say you visit Have Bug, Will Travel after work one day, and in it you
> find the travel bug Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHead Bug which was placed
> by a geocacher who then boarded a flight to Japan right after placing
> the bug, and thus could not log his visit.  The travel bug is not
> shown as being in the cache but is still listed in the possession of
> the geocacher who put it there.  
>  
> Here is what you need to do.  Go to the travel bug page and enter the
> six-digit dogtag number for the travel bug before entering your log
> entry for Have Bug, Will Travel.  Next, go to the page for Have Bug,
> Will Travel and log your visit.  At the bottom of the Log a Find page,
> in the section Dropped off a traveller?, select Ichiro Suzuki Mini
> BobbleHeadBug from your inventory to place this travel bug in the
> cache.  The travel bug will thereby earn credit for its visit to the
> cache.
>  
> Next, go back to the cache page for Have Bug, Will Travel and click on
> Ichiro Suzuki Mini BobbleHeadBug under Travel Bugs have been seen in
> this cache next to the travel bug symbol in the upper right-hand
> corner.  Enter the six-digit dogtag number again to retrieve this
> travel bug and put it back in your inventory.  Move the travel bug to
> another cache as you normally would.
>  
> I hope that all geocachers do this to any travel bug that they find in
> a cache that has not yet been logged in the cache.  This will
> help travel bugs earn credits for all of their visits to caches and
> will help ensure that travel bugs have complete travel histories.
> Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)  
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 17:36:01 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:36:01 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
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That's a pretty cool idea!  Something that would be kind of fun is =
reserving a ramada at a park in the early AM and hosting a pancake =
breakfast type deal.  Eggs/bacon/sausage/pancakes/hash browns or =
whatever, and possibly charge just a couple bucks per head to cover the =
supplies, with the leftover fundage to be placed in a cache somewhere =
nearby that would be the game for the event.  I'm all for helping =
plan/co-hosting it.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Regan L Smith=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


  What about everyone who can pitch in at the event cache and treat the =
Wyle E clan to a nice Breakfast????
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Brian Casteel=20
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:26 AM
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


    Unemployed?  :(  Everytime I hear about that with someone, I am =
saddened by it, because I know what it feels like and how deeply it =
affected me.

    I'm glad you were able to find some joy in reaching this milestone =
(which is no small feat), and I look forward to your 2000th find.  :D

    Brian
    Team A.I.
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: connie.farquhar@cox.net=20
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
      Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


      Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a little =
more friendly.
      Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach this =
landmark, and he was able to achieve this by having the free time of an =
unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with the =
finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you Dan for a nice cache.
      Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
      --Connie
      Team "Wyle E"
        -----Original Message-----
        From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Webb =
Pickersgill
        Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
        To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
        Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


        WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle E!  So, =
where's the party?  :)

        TheWebbman
          -----Original Message-----
          From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian =
Casteel
          Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
          To: AZ Geocaching
          Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


          Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for reaching the =
millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the event cache to =
mark the occasion?

          /me looks conspicuously at Connie

          Brian
          Team A.I.
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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    =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 9:26=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Wow!</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Unemployed?&nbsp; :(&nbsp; =
Everytime I hear=20
    about that with someone, I am saddened by it, because I know what it =
feels=20
    like and how deeply it affected me.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm glad you were able to find some =
joy in=20
    reaching this milestone (which is no small feat), and I look forward =
to your=20
    2000th find.&nbsp; :D</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dconnie.farquhar@cox.net=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:connie.farquhar@cox.net">connie.farquhar@cox.net</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 5:36=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
      Wow!</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a =
little more=20
      friendly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach =
this=20
      landmark, and he was able to achieve this by&nbsp;having the free =
time of=20
      an&nbsp;unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th =
find=20
      with the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
      class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thank you=20
      Dan for a nice cache.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanks to=20
      everyone for their congratulations.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D490263303-13082003>--Connie</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D490263303-13082003>Team "Wyle E"</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
        az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
        [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On =
Behalf=20
        Of</B> Webb Pickersgill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 =
12:50=20
        PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE:=20
        [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>WOW!&nbsp;**I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy** =
&nbsp;Congrats Wyle=20
        E!&nbsp; So, where's the party?&nbsp; :)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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        size=3D2>TheWebbman</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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          [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On =
Behalf Of=20
          </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2003 =
10:40=20
          AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
          Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congrats to the recently =
re-obsessed Wyle=20
          E for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!&nbsp; Who's =
going to=20
          throw the event cache to mark the occasion?</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me looks conspicuously at=20
          Connie</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 18:05:58 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Tomlinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:05:58 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
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I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward =
convert
the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a
chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  ;-)
=20
Bill
CacheLess

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
Brian
Casteel
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:36 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


That's a pretty cool idea!  Something that would be kind of fun is =
reserving
a ramada at a park in the early AM and hosting a pancake breakfast type
deal.  Eggs/bacon/sausage/pancakes/hash browns or whatever, and possibly
charge just a couple bucks per head to cover the supplies, with the =
leftover
fundage to be placed in a cache somewhere nearby that would be the game =
for
the event.  I'm all for helping plan/co-hosting it.
=20
Brian
Team A.I.

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Regan L  <mailto:buggers@mindspring.com> Smith=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!

What about everyone who can pitch in at the event cache and treat the =
Wyle E
clan to a nice Breakfast????

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Brian Casteel <mailto:bcasteel@cox.net> =20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!

Unemployed?  :(  Everytime I hear about that with someone, I am saddened =
by
it, because I know what it feels like and how deeply it affected me.
=20
I'm glad you were able to find some joy in reaching this milestone =
(which is
no small feat), and I look forward to your 2000th find.  :D
=20
Brian
Team A.I.

----- Original Message -----=20
From: connie.farquhar@cox.net=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!

Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a little more
friendly.
Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach this landmark, =
and
he was able to achieve this by having the free time of an unemployed =
person
(at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with the finding of the =
"Free
Wyle E" cache. Thank you Dan for a nice cache.
Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
--Connie
Team "Wyle E"

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Webb
Pickersgill
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's =
the
party?  :)
=20
TheWebbman

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian
Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
To: AZ Geocaching
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for reaching the =
millenia-mark
of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the event cache to mark the =
occasion?
=20
/me looks conspicuously at Connie
=20
Brian
Team A.I.


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think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward convert =
the=20
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chance to=20
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;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of =

  </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:36=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's a pretty cool idea!&nbsp; =
Something that=20
  would be kind of fun is reserving a ramada at a park in the early AM =
and=20
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Eggs/bacon/sausage/pancakes/hash=20
  browns or whatever, and possibly charge just a couple bucks per head =
to cover=20
  the supplies, with the leftover fundage to be placed in a cache =
somewhere=20
  nearby that would be the game for the event.&nbsp; I'm all for helping =

  plan/co-hosting it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dbuggers@mindspring.com =
href=3D"mailto:buggers@mindspring.com">Regan L=20
    Smith</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 9:56=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Wow!</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What about everyone =
who&nbsp;can&nbsp;pitch in=20
    at the event cache and treat the Wyle E clan to a nice=20
    Breakfast????</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dbcasteel@cox.net href=3D"mailto:bcasteel@cox.net">Brian =
Casteel</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 9:26=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
      Wow!</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Unemployed?&nbsp; :(&nbsp; =
Everytime I hear=20
      about that with someone, I am saddened by it, because I know what =
it feels=20
      like and how deeply it affected me.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm glad you were able to find =
some joy in=20
      reaching this milestone (which is no small feat), and I look =
forward to=20
      your 2000th find.&nbsp; :D</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dconnie.farquhar@cox.net=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:connie.farquhar@cox.net">connie.farquhar@cox.net</A> =
</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August =
13, 2003=20
        5:36 AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
        Wow!</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a =
little=20
        more friendly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to =
reach this=20
        landmark, and he was able to achieve this by&nbsp;having the =
free time=20
        of an&nbsp;unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his =
1000th=20
        find with the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. =
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
        class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thank you=20
        Dan for a nice cache.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanks to=20
        everyone for their congratulations.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D490263303-13082003>--Connie</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D490263303-13082003>Team "Wyle =
E"</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
        style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: =
#0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
          size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
          az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
          [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On =
Behalf=20
          Of</B> Webb Pickersgill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, =
2003 12:50=20
          PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE:=20
          [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2>WOW!&nbsp;**I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy** =
&nbsp;Congrats=20
          Wyle E!&nbsp; So, where's the party?&nbsp; =
:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2>TheWebbman</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
            <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
            size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
            az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
            [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On =
Behalf=20
            Of </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, =
2003 10:40=20
            AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
            Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congrats to the recently =
re-obsessed=20
            Wyle E for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!&nbsp; =
Who's=20
            going to throw the event cache to mark the =
occasion?</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me looks conspicuously at=20
            Connie</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team=20
        =
A.I.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BL=
OCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 19:01:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:01:56 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
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MessageWell, there have been caches with large cash rewards at the end =
that I'd have loved the opportunity to seek.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D46102
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D43752
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D42391

Wouldn't you love to get FTF on any of these three? (I'd take #2 over =
any, but would gladly accept either of the other FTF prizes.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bill Tomlinson=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:05 AM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


  I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward =
convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them =
out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  =
;-)

  Bill
  CacheLess
    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
Brian Casteel
    Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:36 AM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


    That's a pretty cool idea!  Something that would be kind of fun is =
reserving a ramada at a park in the early AM and hosting a pancake =
breakfast type deal.  Eggs/bacon/sausage/pancakes/hash browns or =
whatever, and possibly charge just a couple bucks per head to cover the =
supplies, with the leftover fundage to be placed in a cache somewhere =
nearby that would be the game for the event.  I'm all for helping =
plan/co-hosting it.

    Brian
    Team A.I.
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Regan L Smith=20
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:56 AM
      Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


      What about everyone who can pitch in at the event cache and treat =
the Wyle E clan to a nice Breakfast????
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Brian Casteel=20
        To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
        Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:26 AM
        Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


        Unemployed?  :(  Everytime I hear about that with someone, I am =
saddened by it, because I know what it feels like and how deeply it =
affected me.

        I'm glad you were able to find some joy in reaching this =
milestone (which is no small feat), and I look forward to your 2000th =
find.  :D

        Brian
        Team A.I.
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: connie.farquhar@cox.net=20
          To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
          Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
          Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


          Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a little =
more friendly.
          Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach this =
landmark, and he was able to achieve this by having the free time of an =
unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with the =
finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you Dan for a nice cache.
          Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
          --Connie
          Team "Wyle E"
            -----Original Message-----
            From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Webb =
Pickersgill
            Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
            To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
            Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


            WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle E!  =
So, where's the party?  :)

            TheWebbman
              -----Original Message-----
              From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian =
Casteel
              Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
              To: AZ Geocaching
              Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


              Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for reaching =
the millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the event cache =
to mark the occasion?

              /me looks conspicuously at Connie

              Brian
              Team A.I.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, there have been caches with large =
cash=20
rewards at the end that I'd have loved the opportunity to =
seek.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D46102">htt=
p://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D46102</A></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D43752">htt=
p://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D43752</A></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D42391">htt=
p://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D42391</A></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wouldn't you love to get FTF on any of =
these three?=20
(I'd take #2 over any, but would gladly accept either of the other FTF=20
prizes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net =
href=3D"mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill=20
  Tomlinson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 11:05=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Wow!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward =
convert the=20
  finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a =
chance to=20
  compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?&nbsp;=20
;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A =

    =
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocachi=
ng-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
    [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf =
Of=20
    </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:36=20
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
    [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's a pretty cool idea!&nbsp; =
Something that=20
    would be kind of fun is reserving a ramada at a park in the early AM =
and=20
    hosting a pancake breakfast type deal.&nbsp;=20
    Eggs/bacon/sausage/pancakes/hash browns or whatever, and possibly =
charge=20
    just a couple bucks per head to cover the supplies, with the =
leftover=20
    fundage to be placed in a cache somewhere nearby that would be the =
game for=20
    the event.&nbsp; I'm all for helping plan/co-hosting =
it.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dbuggers@mindspring.com =
href=3D"mailto:buggers@mindspring.com">Regan=20
      L Smith</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 9:56=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
      Wow!</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What about everyone =
who&nbsp;can&nbsp;pitch=20
      in at the event cache and treat the Wyle E clan to a nice=20
      Breakfast????</FONT></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dbcasteel@cox.net =
href=3D"mailto:bcasteel@cox.net">Brian=20
        Casteel</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August =
13, 2003=20
        9:26 AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
        Wow!</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Unemployed?&nbsp; :(&nbsp; =
Everytime I hear=20
        about that with someone, I am saddened by it, because I know =
what it=20
        feels like and how deeply it affected me.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm glad you were able to find =
some joy in=20
        reaching this milestone (which is no small feat), and I look =
forward to=20
        your 2000th find.&nbsp; :D</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
        style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          <A title=3Dconnie.farquhar@cox.net=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:connie.farquhar@cox.net">connie.farquhar@cox.net</A>=20
          </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
          </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August =
13, 2003=20
          5:36 AM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
          Wow!</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2>Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is =
a little=20
          more friendly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><SPAN class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
          size=3D2>Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to =
reach this=20
          landmark, and he was able to achieve this by&nbsp;having the =
free time=20
          of an&nbsp;unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his =
1000th=20
          find with the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. =
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
          class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thank=20
          you Dan for a nice cache.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D490263303-13082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanks=20
          to everyone for their =
congratulations.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D490263303-13082003>--Connie</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
          class=3D490263303-13082003>Team "Wyle =
E"</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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Roman"=20
            size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
            az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
            [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On =
Behalf=20
            Of</B> Webb Pickersgill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, =
2003=20
            12:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
            RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
            size=3D2>WOW!&nbsp;**I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy** =
&nbsp;Congrats=20
            Wyle E!&nbsp; So, where's the party?&nbsp; =
:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
            size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D301534819-12082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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              =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf=20
              Of </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, =
2003=20
              10:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
              [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congrats to the recently =
re-obsessed=20
              Wyle E for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!&nbsp; =
Who's=20
              going to throw the event cache to mark the =
occasion?</FONT></DIV>
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              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 19:41:52 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Akerman)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:41:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
Message-ID: <20030813194152.87214.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com>

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Bill of CacheLess wrote:
 
I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  ;-)
 
Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the Olympics?  
 
Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.  The old amateur rules are long gone.

Ken


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<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Bill of CacheLess wrote:</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM></EM></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?&nbsp; ;-)</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff>Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the Olympics?&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff>Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.&nbsp; The old amateur rules are long gone.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff><BR>Ken</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 19:59:37 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Tomlinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:59:37 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
In-Reply-To: <20030813194152.87214.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com>
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Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on fact.  I'll work
on that.

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Akerman
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


Bill of CacheLess wrote:
 
I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward convert
the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a
chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  ;-)
 
Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the
Olympics?  
 
Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.  The old
amateur rules are long gone.

Ken


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  listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
Geocaching in the=20
  Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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financial reward=20
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out of=20
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  ;-)</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Are you =
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  Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the Olympics?&nbsp;=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 20:22:00 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:22:00 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
References: <002e01c361d5$6cc03510$6601a8c0@qwest.net>
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Message/me hears the distant sound of hissing and the clawing of faces.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bill Tomlinson=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:59 PM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


  Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on fact.  =
I'll work on that.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Ken =
Akerman
    Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 PM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


    Bill of CacheLess wrote:

    I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward =
convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them =
out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  =
;-)

    Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing =
in the Olympics? =20

    Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.  The =
old amateur rules are long gone.

    Ken
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Geocaching=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D244265819-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on =
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  I'll work on that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
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    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A =

    =
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocachi=
ng-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
    [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf =
Of=20
    </B>Ken Akerman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42=20
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A><B=
R><B>Subject:</B>=20
    [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2><EM>Bill of CacheLess wrote:</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2><EM></EM></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2><EM>I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the =
financial reward=20
    convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking =
them out=20
    of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic =
sport?&nbsp;=20
    ;-)</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Are you =
thinking=20
    that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the =
Olympics?&nbsp;=20
    </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT=20
    color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT =
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    been competing in the Olympics since 1992.&nbsp; The old amateur =
rules are=20
    long gone.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT=20
    =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 20:30:57 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Tomlinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:30:57 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
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I sure hope you're wrong.  My face is much too handsome to mess up over
something so silly.  LOL

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
Brian
Casteel
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:22 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


/me hears the distant sound of hissing and the clawing of faces.
=20
Brian
Team A.I.

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bill  <mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net> Tomlinson=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics

Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on fact.  I'll =
work
on that.

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Akerman
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


Bill of CacheLess wrote:
=20
I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward =
convert
the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a
chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  ;-)
=20
Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in =
the
Olympics? =20
=20
Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.  The old
amateur rules are long gone.

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  </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:22=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me hears the distant sound of =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net =
href=3D"mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill=20
    Tomlinson</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, =
2003 12:59=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Geocaching=20
    in the Olympics</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D244265819-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on =

    fact.&nbsp; I'll work on that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
      face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocachi=
ng-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
      [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
      </B>Ken Akerman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42=20
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A><B=
R><B>Subject:</B>=20
      [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2><EM>Bill of CacheLess wrote:</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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      <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2><EM>I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the =
financial=20
      reward convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby =
knocking=20
      them out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic =

      sport?&nbsp; ;-)</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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      <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Are =
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rules are=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 21:23:23 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Webb Pickersgill)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:23:23 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
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MessageLOL!  There's some kind of really slick remark I should make right
now, but it's just not coming to me.  DARN!

BTW, could you imagine Geocaching as an Olympic sport anyway... imagine the
commentators..
Commentator Jim: "CacheLess slowly approaches the cache.... he looks
confused... "
Commentator Bob: "WAIT!  He looked right at it... I think he's hot on the
trail!"
Commentator Jim: "OOHHHH NO Bob!  He walked the other way"
Commentator Bob: "Yeah Jim, that's gonna hurt his standings."
Commentator Jim: "Wait Bob, he's going for the encrypted clue."
Commentator Bob: "Oh NO!  He'll take a penalty point if he does that!"

LOL

TheWebbman

  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Bill
Tomlinson
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:31 PM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


  I sure hope you're wrong.  My face is much too handsome to mess up over
something so silly.  LOL
    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Casteel
    Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:22 PM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


    /me hears the distant sound of hissing and the clawing of faces.

    Brian
    Team A.I.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Bill Tomlinson
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
      Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:59 PM
      Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


      Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on fact.
I'll work on that.
        -----Original Message-----
        From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Akerman
        Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 PM
        To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
        Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


        Bill of CacheLess wrote:

        I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward
convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out
of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  ;-)

        Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing
in the Olympics?

        Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.  The
old amateur rules are long gone.

        Ken

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He'll take a=20
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  [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Bill=20
  Tomlinson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:31 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Geocaching in=20
  the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D985162920-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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    </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:22=20
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
    [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me hears the distant sound of =
hissing and the=20
    clawing of faces.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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      Geocaching in the Olympics</DIV>
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      <DIV><SPAN class=3D244265819-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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        =
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        [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
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        </B>Ken Akerman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 =

        PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
        =
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R><B>Subject:</B>=20
        [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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        size=3D2><EM>Bill of CacheLess wrote:</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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        size=3D2><EM></EM></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2><EM>I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the =
financial=20
        reward convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby =
knocking=20
        them out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an =
Olympic=20
        sport?&nbsp; ;-)</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT color=3D#0000ff>Are =
you thinking=20
        that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the=20
        Olympics?&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT=20
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        <DIV><SPAN class=3D097040418-13082003><FONT =
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amateur=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 13 22:42:34 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:42:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
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Too funny! I imagine an Olympic geocaching event would be a marathon. You should be pretty good at that, but some of us would stink at it.
 
Bob: Desert Viking is approaching her 15th cache of the day. She's zeroing in, wait she's sitting down. Could she be too tired? This is a tricky cache, she'll need all of her skills on this one. She's looking right at it, she's reaching....Nooo! She's walking away. 
 
Jim: Meanwhile Team Sprocket, another Arizona record marathon geocacher approaches his 30th cache and finds it readily. There are now 3 teams in contention for the gold medal in the final geocache. Several have dropped out or failed to find some of the caches. These teams include........(you know who you are, include me in that list)

Webb Pickersgill <wpickers@cox.net> wrote:
LOL!  There's some kind of really slick remark I should make right now, but it's just not coming to me.  DARN!
 
BTW, could you imagine Geocaching as an Olympic sport anyway... imagine the commentators.. 
Commentator Jim: "CacheLess slowly approaches the cache.... he looks confused... "
Commentator Bob: "WAIT!  He looked right at it... I think he's hot on the trail!"
Commentator Jim: "OOHHHH NO Bob!  He walked the other way"
Commentator Bob: "Yeah Jim, that's gonna hurt his standings."
Commentator Jim: "Wait Bob, he's going for the encrypted clue."
Commentator Bob: "Oh NO!  He'll take a penalty point if he does that!"
 
LOL
 
TheWebbman
 
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Bill Tomlinson
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:31 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


I sure hope you're wrong.  My face is much too handsome to mess up over something so silly.  LOL

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Brian Casteel
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:22 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


/me hears the distant sound of hissing and the clawing of faces.
 
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bill Tomlinson 
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on fact.  I'll work on that.

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Ken Akerman
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics


Bill of CacheLess wrote:
 
I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  ;-)
 
Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the Olympics?  
 
Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.  The old amateur rules are long gone.

Ken




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<DIV>Too funny! I imagine an Olympic geocaching event would be a marathon. You should be pretty good at that, but some of us would stink at it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bob: Desert Viking is approaching her 15th cache of the day. She's zeroing in, wait she's sitting down. Could she be too tired? This is a tricky cache, she'll need all of her skills on this one. She's looking right at it, she's reaching....Nooo! She's walking away. </DIV>
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<DIV>Jim: Meanwhile Team Sprocket, another Arizona record marathon geocacher approaches his 30th cache and finds it readily. There are now 3 teams in contention for the gold medal in the final geocache. Several have dropped out or failed to find some of the caches. These teams include........(you know who you are, include me in that list)<BR><BR><B><I>Webb Pickersgill &lt;wpickers@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>LOL!&nbsp; There's some kind of really slick remark I should make right now, but it's just not coming to me.&nbsp; DARN!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>BTW, could you imagine Geocaching as an Olympic sport anyway... imagine the commentators.. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator Jim: "CacheLess slowly approaches the cache.... he looks confused... "</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator </FONT></SPAN>Bob: "WAIT!&nbsp; He looked right at it... I think he's hot on the trail!"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator Jim: "</FONT></SPAN>OOHHHH NO Bob!&nbsp; He walked the other way"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator </FONT></SPAN>Bob: "Yeah Jim, that's gonna hurt his standings."</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator Jim: "Wait Bob, he's going for the encrypted clue."</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator </FONT></SPAN>Bob: "Oh NO!&nbsp; He'll take a penalty point if he does that!"</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>LOL</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>TheWebbman</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill Tomlinson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:31 PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=985162920-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I sure hope you're wrong.&nbsp; My face is much too handsome to mess up over something so silly.&nbsp; LOL</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:22 PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>/me hears the distant sound of hissing and the clawing of faces.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=billtomlinson@qwest.net href="mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill Tomlinson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=244265819-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on fact.&nbsp; I'll work on that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken Akerman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Bill of CacheLess wrote:</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM></EM></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?&nbsp; ;-)</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff>Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the Olympics?&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff>Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.&nbsp; The old amateur rules are long gone.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff><BR>Ken</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 14 00:25:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:25:56 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
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Sheesh, and to think my anxiousness the night before the Magellan coords were released, I didn't sleep but 30 min. tops.  My failure in that arena barely got me an honorable mention award in the form of a hat.  :)

Brian
Team A.I.

Must....train.....harder....
> 
> From: Gale Draper <sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2003/08/13 Wed PM 06:42:34 EDT
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
> 
> Too funny! I imagine an Olympic geocaching event would be a marathon. You should be pretty good at that, but some of us would stink at it.
>  
> Bob: Desert Viking is approaching her 15th cache of the day. She's zeroing in, wait she's sitting down. Could she be too tired? This is a tricky cache, she'll need all of her skills on this one. She's looking right at it, she's reaching....Nooo! She's walking away. 
>  
> Jim: Meanwhile Team Sprocket, another Arizona record marathon geocacher approaches his 30th cache and finds it readily. There are now 3 teams in contention for the gold medal in the final geocache. Several have dropped out or failed to find some of the caches. These teams include........(you know who you are, include me in that list)
> 
> Webb Pickersgill <wpickers@cox.net> wrote:
> LOL!  There's some kind of really slick remark I should make right now, but it's just not coming to me.  DARN!
>  
> BTW, could you imagine Geocaching as an Olympic sport anyway... imagine the commentators.. 
> Commentator Jim: "CacheLess slowly approaches the cache.... he looks confused... "
> Commentator Bob: "WAIT!  He looked right at it... I think he's hot on the trail!"
> Commentator Jim: "OOHHHH NO Bob!  He walked the other way"
> Commentator Bob: "Yeah Jim, that's gonna hurt his standings."
> Commentator Jim: "Wait Bob, he's going for the encrypted clue."
> Commentator Bob: "Oh NO!  He'll take a penalty point if he does that!"
>  
> LOL
>  
> TheWebbman
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Bill Tomlinson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:31 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
> 
> 
> I sure hope you're wrong.  My face is much too handsome to mess up over something so silly.  LOL
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:22 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
> 
> 
> /me hears the distant sound of hissing and the clawing of faces.
>  
> Brian
> Team A.I.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bill Tomlinson 
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
> 
> 
> Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on fact.  I'll work on that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Ken Akerman
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics
> 
> 
> Bill of CacheLess wrote:
>  
> I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?  ;-)
>  
> Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the Olympics?  
>  
> Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.  The old amateur rules are long gone.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
>   On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
> "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
>   "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
> 
>  
> 
> Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898
> 
> 
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<DIV>Too funny! I imagine an Olympic geocaching event would be a marathon. You should be pretty good at that, but some of us would stink at it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bob: Desert Viking is approaching her 15th cache of the day. She's zeroing in, wait she's sitting down. Could she be too tired? This is a tricky cache, she'll need all of her skills on this one. She's looking right at it, she's reaching....Nooo! She's walking away. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jim: Meanwhile Team Sprocket, another Arizona record marathon geocacher approaches his 30th cache and finds it readily. There are now 3 teams in contention for the gold medal in the final geocache. Several have dropped out or failed to find some of the caches. These teams include........(you know who you are, include me in that list)<BR><BR><B><I>Webb Pickersgill &lt;wpickers@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>LOL!&nbsp; There's some kind of really slick remark I should make right now, but it's just not coming to me.&nbsp; DARN!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>BTW, could you imagine Geocaching as an Olympic sport anyway... imagine the commentators.. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator Jim: "CacheLess slowly approaches the cache.... he looks confused... "</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator </FONT></SPAN>Bob: "WAIT!&nbsp; He looked right at it... I think he's hot on the trail!"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator Jim: "</FONT></SPAN>OOHHHH NO Bob!&nbsp; He walked the other way"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator </FONT></SPAN>Bob: "Yeah Jim, that's gonna hurt his standings."</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator Jim: "Wait Bob, he's going for the encrypted clue."</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Commentator </FONT></SPAN>Bob: "Oh NO!&nbsp; He'll take a penalty point if he does that!"</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>LOL</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>TheWebbman</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=346101621-13082003></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill Tomlinson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:31 PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=985162920-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I sure hope you're wrong.&nbsp; My face is much too handsome to mess up over something so silly.&nbsp; LOL</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:22 PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>/me hears the distant sound of hissing and the clawing of faces.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=billtomlinson@qwest.net href="mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill Tomlinson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=244265819-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Oops, didn't realize humor needed to be based completely on fact.&nbsp; I'll work on that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ken Akerman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:42 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching in the Olympics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>Bill of CacheLess wrote:</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM></EM></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><EM>I think that's an awesome idea, but wouldn't the financial reward convert the finder into a professional geocacher thereby knocking them out of a chance to compete when geocaching becomes an Olympic sport?&nbsp; ;-)</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff>Are you thinking that Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens are still competing in the Olympics?&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff>Professionals have been competing in the Olympics since 1992.&nbsp; The old amateur rules are long gone.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=097040418-13082003><FONT color=#0000ff><BR>Ken</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 14 18:02:15 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:02:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] international caches
Message-ID: <20030814110215.7142.h015.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Hmmm....it's been 2 years and nobody has made it by boat to that
obscure Caribbean island? What a shock!
Hey, Larry/Wyle E....don't you have a boat? Time to go get this cache!
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott



On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:38:12 -0700 (PDT), Gale Draper wrote:

 
An interesting cache in Venezuela
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=40024e22-7ca1-4ba6-ac7c-064140b68d2d
 
Caribbean fun
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=317c54b8-1ef1-4a59-876c-d9283538ea21
 
 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 15 03:34:34 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Henson)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:34:34 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Event Cache Crown King Rendezvous
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N 34=B0 11.520 W 112=B0 21.368 (WGS84)

In Arizona, United States [state map]
Hidden: 8/14/2003

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Attention Arizona Geocaching Agents.... Your presence is requested to=20
attend this special event. If only one agent can make it to the it will=20=

have been a success.

Greetings Geocaching Agent. It's been awhile since your last mission.=20
You've been doing an outstanding job within the state of Arizona, so it=20=

was time to have a small gathering.

This event will last for about an hour or so.  Maybe, some of us will=20
go to the Mill for a late lunch or early dinner?

It will take place in front of the store in Crown King at 2:00 PM,=20
Saturday, August 16, 2003. Lincoln will have five Travel Bugs that need=20=

to sent on their way back to Belgium. More information about the TBs=20
will be available from Lincoln at the store. Lincoln will have a green=20=

baseball hat with the words: =93McDonnell Douglas Safety=94 on it.

There will be approximately 100 Jeeps and other 4x4s in Crown King on=20
Saturday. The Arizona Virtual Jeep Club is doing their trip from Lake=20
Pleasant to Crown King. Also, there will be numerous groups of four=20
wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King.

This page will be archived on Monday evening. That is if it does not=20
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Rendezvous that was put on by by Team "Wyle E".

If you want to log this cache you need to check in with Lincoln. He=20
will be at the store from 2 PM until 3 PM.


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~ Lincoln    (aka - Ken Henson)  Prescott


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will have been a success.


Greetings Geocaching Agent. It's been awhile since your last mission.
You've been doing an outstanding job within the state of Arizona, so
it was time to have a small gathering.


This event will last for about an hour or so.  Maybe, some of us will
go to the Mill for a late lunch or early dinner?


It will take place in front of the store in Crown King at 2:00 PM,
Saturday, August 16, 2003. Lincoln will have five Travel Bugs that
need to sent on their way back to Belgium. More information about the
TBs will be available from Lincoln at the store. Lincoln will have a
green baseball hat with the words: =93McDonnell Douglas Safety=94 on it.


There will be approximately 100 Jeeps and other 4x4s in Crown King on
Saturday. The Arizona Virtual Jeep Club is doing their trip from Lake
Pleasant to Crown King. Also, there will be numerous groups of four
wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King.=20


This page will be archived on Monday evening. That is if it does not
self destruct before then. ~ Lincoln


The words and style for this notice was taken AZ Geocaching Agent
Rendezvous that was put on by by Team "Wyle E".


If you want to log this cache you need to check in with Lincoln. He
will be at the store from 2 PM until 3 PM.



<bold>Additional Hints=A0(</bold>No hints available<bold>)</bold>=A0=20


~ Lincoln    (aka - Ken Henson)  Prescott


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 17 21:19:06 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Richard E Holmes)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:19:06 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
References: <00f401c36197$96dc93e0$1e01a8c0@connie>
Message-ID: <003601c36505$35db1d20$5c360244@ph.cox.net>

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Good going, Wyle E!

When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we said, "wow". That was =
in the days when we thought going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend =
was a real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and it's still a kick.

OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.

Dick and Carole
Creepin' Jeepers
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: connie.farquhar@cox.net=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


  Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a little more =
friendly.
  Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach this =
landmark, and he was able to achieve this by having the free time of an =
unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with the =
finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you Dan for a nice cache.
  Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
  --Connie
  Team "Wyle E"
    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Webb =
Pickersgill
    Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


    WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle E!  So, =
where's the party?  :)

    TheWebbman
      -----Original Message-----
      From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian =
Casteel
      Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
      To: AZ Geocaching
      Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!


      Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E for reaching the =
millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's going to throw the event cache to =
mark the occasion?

      /me looks conspicuously at Connie

      Brian
      Team A.I.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 00:28:34 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (GUY ALDRICH)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <003601c36505$35db1d20$5c360244@ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20030818002834.31356.qmail@web40804.mail.yahoo.com>







I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
lines!Anyone had this problem today?

Guy














--- Richard E Holmes <reh@reholmes.com> wrote:
> Good going, Wyle E!
> 
> When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> said, "wow". That was in the days when we thought
> going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was a
> real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and it's
> still a kick.
> 
> OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> 
> Dick and Carole
> Creepin' Jeepers
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: connie.farquhar@cox.net 
>   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
>   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> 
> 
>   Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather
> is a little more friendly.
>   Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted
> to reach this landmark, and he was able to achieve
> this by having the free time of an unemployed person
> (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with
> the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you
> Dan for a nice cache.
>   Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
>   --Connie
>   Team "Wyle E"
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From:
> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
>     Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
>     To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>     Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> 
> 
>     WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy** 
> Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the party?  :)
> 
>     TheWebbman
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:
> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> Behalf Of Brian Casteel
>       Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
>       To: AZ Geocaching
>       Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> 
> 
>       Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E
> for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's
> going to throw the event cache to mark the occasion?
> 
>       /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> 
>       Brian
>       Team A.I.


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 00:35:19 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Rick Scholz)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:35:19 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
References: <20030818002834.31356.qmail@web40804.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3F401F47.C32FFB8@rickscholz.net>

Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I finally found one that had
any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and supreme.

This is the worst gas crisis I remember.

Of course I don't remember the 70's.

Rick

GUY ALDRICH wrote:

> I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
> most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
> lines!Anyone had this problem today?
>
> Guy
>
> --- Richard E Holmes <reh@reholmes.com> wrote:
> > Good going, Wyle E!
> >
> > When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> > said, "wow". That was in the days when we thought
> > going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was a
> > real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and it's
> > still a kick.
> >
> > OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> >
> > Dick and Carole
> > Creepin' Jeepers
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: connie.farquhar@cox.net
> >   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
> >   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather
> > is a little more friendly.
> >   Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted
> > to reach this landmark, and he was able to achieve
> > this by having the free time of an unemployed person
> > (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with
> > the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you
> > Dan for a nice cache.
> >   Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
> >   --Connie
> >   Team "Wyle E"
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From:
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
> >     Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> >     To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >     Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> >     WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**
> > Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the party?  :)
> >
> >     TheWebbman
> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       From:
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> >       Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
> >       To: AZ Geocaching
> >       Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> >       Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E
> > for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's
> > going to throw the event cache to mark the occasion?
> >
> >       /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> >
> >       Brian
> >       Team A.I.
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 01:02:12 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:02:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <3F401F47.C32FFB8@rickscholz.net>
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Yes, no gas down here either. They say prices have only jumped a few cents, but the stations closest to me have shot up 30 cents this week

Rick Scholz <rickscholz@rickscholz.net> wrote:Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I finally found one that had
any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and supreme.

This is the worst gas crisis I remember.

Of course I don't remember the 70's.

Rick

GUY ALDRICH wrote:

> I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
> most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
> lines!Anyone had this problem today?
>
> Guy
>
> --- Richard E Holmes wrote:
> > Good going, Wyle E!
> >
> > When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> > said, "wow". That was in the days when we thought
> > going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was a
> > real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and it's
> > still a kick.
> >
> > OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> >
> > Dick and Carole
> > Creepin' Jeepers
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: connie.farquhar@cox.net
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> > Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather
> > is a little more friendly.
> > Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted
> > to reach this landmark, and he was able to achieve
> > this by having the free time of an unemployed person
> > (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with
> > the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you
> > Dan for a nice cache.
> > Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
> > --Connie
> > Team "Wyle E"
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> > WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**
> > Congrats Wyle E! So, where's the party? :)
> >
> > TheWebbman
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
> > To: AZ Geocaching
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> > Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E
> > for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching! Who's
> > going to throw the event cache to mark the occasion?
> >
> > /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> >
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
>
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<DIV>Yes, no gas down here either. They say prices have only jumped a few cents, but the stations closest to me have shot up 30 cents this week<BR><BR><B><I>Rick Scholz &lt;rickscholz@rickscholz.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I finally found one that had<BR>any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and supreme.<BR><BR>This is the worst gas crisis I remember.<BR><BR>Of course I don't remember the 70's.<BR><BR>Rick<BR><BR>GUY ALDRICH wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found<BR>&gt; most gas stations were either out of gas or had long<BR>&gt; lines!Anyone had this problem today?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Guy<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --- Richard E Holmes <REH@REHOLMES.COM>wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; Good going, Wyle E!<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we<BR>&gt; &gt; said, "wow". That was in the days when we thought<BR>&gt; &gt; going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was a<BR>&gt; &gt; real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and it's<BR>&gt; &gt; still a kick.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; OBTW; we never did find
 Sparky's Stash.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Dick and Carole<BR>&gt; &gt; Creepin' Jeepers<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: connie.farquhar@cox.net<BR>&gt; &gt; To: listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather<BR>&gt; &gt; is a little more friendly.<BR>&gt; &gt; Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted<BR>&gt; &gt; to reach this landmark, and he was able to achieve<BR>&gt; &gt; this by having the free time of an unemployed person<BR>&gt; &gt; (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with<BR>&gt; &gt; the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you<BR>&gt; &gt; Dan for a nice cache.<BR>&gt; &gt; Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.<BR>&gt; &gt; --Connie<BR>&gt; &gt; Team "Wyle E"<BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From:<BR>&gt; &gt;
 az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On<BR>&gt; &gt; Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**<BR>&gt; &gt; Congrats Wyle E! So, where's the party? :)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; TheWebbman<BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From:<BR>&gt; &gt; az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On<BR>&gt; &gt; Behalf Of Brian Casteel<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; To: AZ Geocaching<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E<BR>&gt; &gt; for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching! Who's<BR>&gt;
 &gt; going to throw the event cache to mark the occasion?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; /me looks conspicuously at Connie<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Brian<BR>&gt; &gt; Team A.I.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; __________________________________<BR>&gt; Do you Yahoo!?<BR>&gt; Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software<BR>&gt; http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com<BR>&gt; ____________________________________________________________<BR>&gt; Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt; To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>&gt; http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>&gt; http://www.azgeocaching.com<BR><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 02:32:14 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Webb Pickersgill)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:32:14 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <3F401F47.C32FFB8@rickscholz.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c36530$f02e7d40$6501010a@pickersgill.local>

I passed a gas station today (Tatum and Union Hills) that had 10-20 cars in
line coming from each direction... I was confused what was going on until I
passed the next 4 stations and they were all completely out!  Yikes!  I
guess it's time to put on that bike helmet and go BikeCaching!  :)

TheWebbman

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Rick
Scholz
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:35 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I finally found one that had
any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and supreme.

This is the worst gas crisis I remember.

Of course I don't remember the 70's.

Rick

GUY ALDRICH wrote:

> I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
> most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
> lines!Anyone had this problem today?
>
> Guy
>
> --- Richard E Holmes <reh@reholmes.com> wrote:
> > Good going, Wyle E!
> >
> > When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> > said, "wow". That was in the days when we thought
> > going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was a
> > real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and it's
> > still a kick.
> >
> > OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> >
> > Dick and Carole
> > Creepin' Jeepers
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: connie.farquhar@cox.net
> >   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
> >   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather
> > is a little more friendly.
> >   Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted
> > to reach this landmark, and he was able to achieve
> > this by having the free time of an unemployed person
> > (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with
> > the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you
> > Dan for a nice cache.
> >   Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
> >   --Connie
> >   Team "Wyle E"
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From:
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
> >     Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> >     To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >     Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> >     WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**
> > Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the party?  :)
> >
> >     TheWebbman
> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       From:
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> >       Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
> >       To: AZ Geocaching
> >       Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> >
> >
> >       Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E
> > for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's
> > going to throw the event cache to mark the occasion?
> >
> >       /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> >
> >       Brian
> >       Team A.I.
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 03:56:16 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (GUY ALDRICH)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:56:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <000b01c36530$f02e7d40$6501010a@pickersgill.local>
Message-ID: <20030818035616.62611.qmail@web40806.mail.yahoo.com>

They are saying it could be a few weeks before the gas
situation returns to normal!I guess it's time to park
the cache mobile and just bike everywhere!

Guy
--- Webb Pickersgill <wpickers@cox.net> wrote:
> I passed a gas station today (Tatum and Union Hills)
> that had 10-20 cars in
> line coming from each direction... I was confused
> what was going on until I
> passed the next 4 stations and they were all
> completely out!  Yikes!  I
> guess it's time to put on that bike helmet and go
> BikeCaching!  :)
> 
> TheWebbman
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> Behalf Of Rick
> Scholz
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:35 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
> 
> 
> Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I
> finally found one that had
> any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and
> supreme.
> 
> This is the worst gas crisis I remember.
> 
> Of course I don't remember the 70's.
> 
> Rick
> 
> GUY ALDRICH wrote:
> 
> > I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but
> found
> > most gas stations were either out of gas or had
> long
> > lines!Anyone had this problem today?
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > --- Richard E Holmes <reh@reholmes.com> wrote:
> > > Good going, Wyle E!
> > >
> > > When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> > > said, "wow". That was in the days when we
> thought
> > > going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was
> a
> > > real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and
> it's
> > > still a kick.
> > >
> > > OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> > >
> > > Dick and Carole
> > > Creepin' Jeepers
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: connie.farquhar@cox.net
> > >   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
> > >   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > >
> > >
> > >   Perhaps some kind of get together when the
> weather
> > > is a little more friendly.
> > >   Larry was obsessed lately only because he
> wanted
> > > to reach this landmark, and he was able to
> achieve
> > > this by having the free time of an unemployed
> person
> > > (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find
> with
> > > the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank
> you
> > > Dan for a nice cache.
> > >   Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
> > >   --Connie
> > >   Team "Wyle E"
> > >     -----Original Message-----
> > >     From:
> > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > >
> >
>
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
> > >     Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> > >     To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > >     Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > >
> > >
> > >     WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**
> > > Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the party?  :)
> > >
> > >     TheWebbman
> > >       -----Original Message-----
> > >       From:
> > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > >
> >
>
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> > >       Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
> > >       To: AZ Geocaching
> > >       Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > >
> > >
> > >       Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle
> E
> > > for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching! 
> Who's
> > > going to throw the event cache to mark the
> occasion?
> > >
> > >       /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> > >
> > >       Brian
> > >       Team A.I.
> >
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 04:18:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Virgil Silhanek)
Date: 17 Aug 2003 21:18:04 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <20030818035616.62611.qmail@web40806.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030818035616.62611.qmail@web40806.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1061180282.31742.102.camel@ip68-3-80-44.ph.ph.cox.net>

What other Arizona areas is this impacting?  Tucson?  Flagstaff?  Is it
just the Phoenix metro?

Virgil (glad both our vehicles are mostly full for now)

On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 20:56, GUY ALDRICH wrote:
> They are saying it could be a few weeks before the gas
> situation returns to normal!I guess it's time to park
> the cache mobile and just bike everywhere!
> 
> Guy
> --- Webb Pickersgill <wpickers@cox.net> wrote:
> > I passed a gas station today (Tatum and Union Hills)
> > that had 10-20 cars in
> > line coming from each direction... I was confused
> > what was going on until I
> > passed the next 4 stations and they were all
> > completely out!  Yikes!  I
> > guess it's time to put on that bike helmet and go
> > BikeCaching!  :)
> > 
> > TheWebbman
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of Rick
> > Scholz
> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:35 PM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
> > 
> > 
> > Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I
> > finally found one that had
> > any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and
> > supreme.
> > 
> > This is the worst gas crisis I remember.
> > 
> > Of course I don't remember the 70's.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > GUY ALDRICH wrote:
> > 
> > > I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but
> > found
> > > most gas stations were either out of gas or had
> > long
> > > lines!Anyone had this problem today?
> > >
> > > Guy
> > >
> > > --- Richard E Holmes <reh@reholmes.com> wrote:
> > > > Good going, Wyle E!
> > > >
> > > > When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> > > > said, "wow". That was in the days when we
> > thought
> > > > going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was
> > a
> > > > real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and
> > it's
> > > > still a kick.
> > > >
> > > > OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> > > >
> > > > Dick and Carole
> > > > Creepin' Jeepers
> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: connie.farquhar@cox.net
> > > >   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > >   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
> > > >   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Perhaps some kind of get together when the
> > weather
> > > > is a little more friendly.
> > > >   Larry was obsessed lately only because he
> > wanted
> > > > to reach this landmark, and he was able to
> > achieve
> > > > this by having the free time of an unemployed
> > person
> > > > (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find
> > with
> > > > the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank
> > you
> > > > Dan for a nice cache.
> > > >   Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
> > > >   --Connie
> > > >   Team "Wyle E"
> > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > >     From:
> > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
> > > >     Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > >     To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > >     Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**
> > > > Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the party?  :)
> > > >
> > > >     TheWebbman
> > > >       -----Original Message-----
> > > >       From:
> > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> > > >       Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
> > > >       To: AZ Geocaching
> > > >       Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle
> > E
> > > > for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching! 
> > Who's
> > > > going to throw the event cache to mark the
> > occasion?
> > > >
> > > >       /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> > > >
> > > >       Brian
> > > >       Team A.I.
> > >
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 04:32:20 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Webb Pickersgill)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:32:20 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <1061180282.31742.102.camel@ip68-3-80-44.ph.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <001c01c36541$b7283110$6501010a@pickersgill.local>

Anyone have any idea when this gas crisis will be over?

Looks like I'll be doing some serious telecomuting this week. :)

TheWebbman

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
Virgil Silhanek
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:18 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


What other Arizona areas is this impacting?  Tucson?  Flagstaff?  Is it
just the Phoenix metro?

Virgil (glad both our vehicles are mostly full for now)

On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 20:56, GUY ALDRICH wrote:
> They are saying it could be a few weeks before the gas
> situation returns to normal!I guess it's time to park
> the cache mobile and just bike everywhere!
> 
> Guy
> --- Webb Pickersgill <wpickers@cox.net> wrote:
> > I passed a gas station today (Tatum and Union Hills)
> > that had 10-20 cars in
> > line coming from each direction... I was confused
> > what was going on until I
> > passed the next 4 stations and they were all
> > completely out!  Yikes!  I
> > guess it's time to put on that bike helmet and go
> > BikeCaching!  :)
> > 
> > TheWebbman
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of Rick
> > Scholz
> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:35 PM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
> > 
> > 
> > Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I
> > finally found one that had
> > any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and
> > supreme.
> > 
> > This is the worst gas crisis I remember.
> > 
> > Of course I don't remember the 70's.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > GUY ALDRICH wrote:
> > 
> > > I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but
> > found
> > > most gas stations were either out of gas or had
> > long
> > > lines!Anyone had this problem today?
> > >
> > > Guy
> > >
> > > --- Richard E Holmes <reh@reholmes.com> wrote:
> > > > Good going, Wyle E!
> > > >
> > > > When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> > > > said, "wow". That was in the days when we
> > thought
> > > > going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was
> > a
> > > > real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and
> > it's
> > > > still a kick.
> > > >
> > > > OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> > > >
> > > > Dick and Carole
> > > > Creepin' Jeepers
> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: connie.farquhar@cox.net
> > > >   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > >   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
> > > >   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Perhaps some kind of get together when the
> > weather
> > > > is a little more friendly.
> > > >   Larry was obsessed lately only because he
> > wanted
> > > > to reach this landmark, and he was able to
> > achieve
> > > > this by having the free time of an unemployed
> > person
> > > > (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find
> > with
> > > > the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank
> > you
> > > > Dan for a nice cache.
> > > >   Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
> > > >   --Connie
> > > >   Team "Wyle E"
> > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > >     From:
> > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
> > > >     Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > >     To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > >     Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**
> > > > Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the party?  :)
> > > >
> > > >     TheWebbman
> > > >       -----Original Message-----
> > > >       From:
> > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> > > >       Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
> > > >       To: AZ Geocaching
> > > >       Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >       Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle
> > E
> > > > for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching! 
> > Who's
> > > > going to throw the event cache to mark the
> > occasion?
> > > >
> > > >       /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> > > >
> > > >       Brian
> > > >       Team A.I.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 05:26:40 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 1:26:40 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
Message-ID: <20030818052637.KYGJ14772.fed1mtao08.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

It's affecting ONLY Phoenix at this time.  When I get home from work, I can post some additional.

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: "Webb Pickersgill" <wpickers@cox.net>
> Date: 2003/08/18 Mon AM 12:32:20 EDT
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
> 
> Anyone have any idea when this gas crisis will be over?
> 
> Looks like I'll be doing some serious telecomuting this week. :)
> 
> TheWebbman
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
> Virgil Silhanek
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:18 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
> 
> 
> What other Arizona areas is this impacting?  Tucson?  Flagstaff?  Is it
> just the Phoenix metro?
> 
> Virgil (glad both our vehicles are mostly full for now)
> 
> On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 20:56, GUY ALDRICH wrote:
> > They are saying it could be a few weeks before the gas
> > situation returns to normal!I guess it's time to park
> > the cache mobile and just bike everywhere!
> > 
> > Guy
> > --- Webb Pickersgill <wpickers@cox.net> wrote:
> > > I passed a gas station today (Tatum and Union Hills)
> > > that had 10-20 cars in
> > > line coming from each direction... I was confused
> > > what was going on until I
> > > passed the next 4 stations and they were all
> > > completely out!  Yikes!  I
> > > guess it's time to put on that bike helmet and go
> > > BikeCaching!  :)
> > > 
> > > TheWebbman
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > >
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Rick
> > > Scholz
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:35 PM
> > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I
> > > finally found one that had
> > > any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and
> > > supreme.
> > > 
> > > This is the worst gas crisis I remember.
> > > 
> > > Of course I don't remember the 70's.
> > > 
> > > Rick
> > > 
> > > GUY ALDRICH wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but
> > > found
> > > > most gas stations were either out of gas or had
> > > long
> > > > lines!Anyone had this problem today?
> > > >
> > > > Guy
> > > >
> > > > --- Richard E Holmes <reh@reholmes.com> wrote:
> > > > > Good going, Wyle E!
> > > > >
> > > > > When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> > > > > said, "wow". That was in the days when we
> > > thought
> > > > > going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was
> > > a
> > > > > real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and
> > > it's
> > > > > still a kick.
> > > > >
> > > > > OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dick and Carole
> > > > > Creepin' Jeepers
> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   From: connie.farquhar@cox.net
> > > > >   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > > >   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
> > > > >   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   Perhaps some kind of get together when the
> > > weather
> > > > > is a little more friendly.
> > > > >   Larry was obsessed lately only because he
> > > wanted
> > > > > to reach this landmark, and he was able to
> > > achieve
> > > > > this by having the free time of an unemployed
> > > person
> > > > > (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find
> > > with
> > > > > the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank
> > > you
> > > > > Dan for a nice cache.
> > > > >   Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
> > > > >   --Connie
> > > > >   Team "Wyle E"
> > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > > >     From:
> > > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > > > Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
> > > > >     Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> > > > >     To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > > >     Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**
> > > > > Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the party?  :)
> > > > >
> > > > >     TheWebbman
> > > > >       -----Original Message-----
> > > > >       From:
> > > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > > > Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> > > > >       Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
> > > > >       To: AZ Geocaching
> > > > >       Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >       Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle
> > > E
> > > > > for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching! 
> > > Who's
> > > > > going to throw the event cache to mark the
> > > occasion?
> > > > >
> > > > >       /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> > > > >
> > > > >       Brian
> > > > >       Team A.I.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 05:54:16 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:54:16 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
References: <20030818035616.62611.qmail@web40806.mail.yahoo.com> <1061180282.31742.102.camel@ip68-3-80-44.ph.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <00d401c3654d$2ab8d7f0$319c4094@BILLPC>

Not a problem here in Willcox.

Bill


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Virgil Silhanek" <silhanek@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


> What other Arizona areas is this impacting?  Tucson?  Flagstaff?  Is it
> just the Phoenix metro?
> 
> Virgil (glad both our vehicles are mostly full for now)



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 06:24:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Team Cache-Quest)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:24:56 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
References: <000b01c36530$f02e7d40$6501010a@pickersgill.local>
Message-ID: <001501c36551$71583b70$6501a8c0@JERRY>

I read a news report that a gas pipeline between Tuson and Phoenix broke
(July 30?) and they have been trucking gas into the valley since then.
Trucking costs more and takes longer.

Jerry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Webb Pickersgill" <wpickers@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


> I passed a gas station today (Tatum and Union Hills) that had 10-20 cars
in
> line coming from each direction... I was confused what was going on until
I
> passed the next 4 stations and they were all completely out!  Yikes!  I
> guess it's time to put on that bike helmet and go BikeCaching!  :)
>
> TheWebbman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Rick
> Scholz
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:35 PM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
>
>
> Yesterday, I passed ten gas stations before I finally found one that had
> any gas at all, and then it was only midgrade and supreme.
>
> This is the worst gas crisis I remember.
>
> Of course I don't remember the 70's.
>
> Rick
>
> GUY ALDRICH wrote:
>
> > I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
> > most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
> > lines!Anyone had this problem today?
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > --- Richard E Holmes <reh@reholmes.com> wrote:
> > > Good going, Wyle E!
> > >
> > > When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we
> > > said, "wow". That was in the days when we thought
> > > going out to find one (1) cache on a weekend was a
> > > real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and it's
> > > still a kick.
> > >
> > > OBTW; we never did find Sparky's Stash.
> > >
> > > Dick and Carole
> > > Creepin' Jeepers
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: connie.farquhar@cox.net
> > >   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 AM
> > >   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > >
> > >
> > >   Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather
> > > is a little more friendly.
> > >   Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted
> > > to reach this landmark, and he was able to achieve
> > > this by having the free time of an unemployed person
> > > (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find with
> > > the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you
> > > Dan for a nice cache.
> > >   Thanks to everyone for their congratulations.
> > >   --Connie
> > >   Team "Wyle E"
> > >     -----Original Message-----
> > >     From:
> > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > >
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Webb Pickersgill
> > >     Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> > >     To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > >     Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > >
> > >
> > >     WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**
> > > Congrats Wyle E!  So, where's the party?  :)
> > >
> > >     TheWebbman
> > >       -----Original Message-----
> > >       From:
> > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > >
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Brian Casteel
> > >       Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 AM
> > >       To: AZ Geocaching
> > >       Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
> > >
> > >
> > >       Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E
> > > for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's
> > > going to throw the event cache to mark the occasion?
> > >
> > >       /me looks conspicuously at Connie
> > >
> > >       Brian
> > >       Team A.I.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 07:34:41 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:34:41 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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uggested that we not "panic buy," that we only buy what we need for our i=
mmediate and necessary use and this "crisis" will blow over soon.

----- Original Message -----
From: GUY ALDRICH
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:30 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!

I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
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Guy

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 08:04:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:04:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <BAY4-DAV92SqRAM4wEz0001cc84@hotmail.com>
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The news I saw said that those that control the destination of gas have been selectively distributing it to certain parts of the valley leaving other parts dry. That had better change. Mike (as a pharmacist) does not have the option to telecommute. He works 13 miles away from home, not exactly a reasonable biking distance for his job.

RAND HARDIN <RHrdn8@msn.com> wrote:I heard on the news tonight that the Gov. said that there was more than enough gas for normal valley sales coming into the valley via truck - the problem has been getting it to the stations fast enough.  The Gov. also suggested that we not "panic buy," that we only buy what we need for our immediate and necessary use and this "crisis" will blow over soon.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: GUY ALDRICH
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:30 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
 
I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
lines!Anyone had this problem today?

Guy



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>The news I saw said that those that control the destination of gas have been selectively distributing it to certain parts of the valley leaving other parts dry. That had better change. Mike (as a pharmacist) does not have the option to telecommute. He works 13 miles away from home, not exactly a reasonable biking distance for his job.<BR><BR><B><I>RAND HARDIN &lt;RHrdn8@msn.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV>I heard on the news tonight that the Gov. said that there was more than enough gas for normal valley sales&nbsp;coming into the valley via truck - the problem has been getting it to the stations fast enough.&nbsp; The Gov. also suggested that we not "panic buy," that we only buy what we need for&nbsp;our immediate and necessary&nbsp;use and this "crisis" will blow over soon.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> GUY ALDRICH</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found<BR>most gas stations were either out of gas or had long<BR>lines!Anyone had this problem today?<BR><BR>Guy<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 08:37:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:37:02 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
References: <20030818080404.92497.qmail@web14806.mail.yahoo.com>
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Well, for starters, CircleK has 1 in 3 stations without fuel, and =
they've imposed rolling blackouts of fuel to the remaining stations so =
everyone gets a share of the pain.  Every station had fuel nearby when I =
left for work, but 3/5 of them were bone dry by the time I got home. =20

I think our Governor is full of shit, and I'm saying this about the =
woman who can have me fired (she's my ultimate boss working for the =
state).  It's a load of crap, and all she's trying to do is damage =
control to keep the masses from rioting.  Ever seen a riot in Phoenix?  =
This keeps up for much longer and you certainly will.

For more on my opinions of this BS of a gas crisis, read my GC.com forum =
post on the matter, mainly because I'm not feeling like re-typing that =
much information.

http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D4016058331=
&m=3D86760287&r=3D48960287#48960287

Yeah, I'd say that 60% of the stations being out of gas indicates that =
more than enough fuel is flowing into the valley.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


  The news I saw said that those that control the destination of gas =
have been selectively distributing it to certain parts of the valley =
leaving other parts dry. That had better change. Mike (as a pharmacist) =
does not have the option to telecommute. He works 13 miles away from =
home, not exactly a reasonable biking distance for his job.

  RAND HARDIN <RHrdn8@msn.com> wrote: I heard on the news tonight that =
the Gov. said that there was more than enough gas for normal valley =
sales coming into the valley via truck - the problem has been getting it =
to the stations fast enough.  The Gov. also suggested that we not "panic =
buy," that we only buy what we need for our immediate and necessary use =
and this "crisis" will blow over soon.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: GUY ALDRICH
      Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:30 PM
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
      Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!

      I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
      most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
      lines!Anyone had this problem today?

      Guy



  Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
    On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
  "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
    "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

  Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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to do is=20
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in=20
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will.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For more on my opinions of this BS of a =
gas crisis,=20
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like=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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p;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D86760287&amp;r=3D48960287#48960287">http://ubbx.=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yeah, I'd say that 60% of the stations =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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gas to=20
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  <DIV>The news I saw said that those that control the destination of =
gas have=20
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leaving other=20
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have the=20
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    <DIV>I heard on the news tonight that the Gov. said that there was =
more than=20
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truck -=20
    the problem has been getting it to the stations fast enough.&nbsp; =
The Gov.=20
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need=20
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blow=20
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      GUY ALDRICH</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 17, =
2003 5:30=20
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> =
listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] No =
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      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but=20
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  so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the =
Ranges=20
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you.=20
  Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 09:28:30 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 05:28:30 EDT
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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If our fine governor says there is not a problem, then that is good enough 
for me.

Yeah, whatever!

Did anyone really expect her to instruct everyone to arm themselves, head for 
the nearest pump and do whatever it takes to get a tank of gas?  :)

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 14:35:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:35:02 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] stats are a mess
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 14:53:17 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:53:17 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] stats are a mess
In-Reply-To: <001e01c36595$e9ec0f00$68c1b73f@fishkiller>
References: <001e01c36595$e9ec0f00$68c1b73f@fishkiller>
Message-ID: <3F40E85D.2020709@Snaptek.com>

Regan L Smith wrote:
> Just thought I would add that to the frey, then 

Can you define mess? so we


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 15:30:01 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:30:01 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: No Gas to Geocache
Message-ID: <3F40F0F9.3000206@mchsi.com>

Brian of Team A.I. wrote:

>It's affecting ONLY Phoenix at this time.  When I get home from work, I can post some additional.
>
>Brian
>Team A.I.
>

I'm not sure if this is entirely true.  Prices seem to be affected in 
Payson as well, though not as drastically.  I drove through Payson on 
the morning of the 13th and paid 1.55/gal.  That afternoon, I paid 
1.62/gal at the same exact station.  Yesterday I paid 1.69/gal at the 
same station.  Other stations in town are as high as 1.78/gal. Not as 
high as the Phoenix area, but probably twenty to thirty cents higher 
than what it was a month ago.

-- Sprocket

>  
>
>>> 
>>> From: "Webb Pickersgill" <wpickers@cox.net>
>>> 
>>> Anyone have any idea when this gas crisis will be over?
>>
>>On Behalf Of
>>> Virgil Silhanek
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What other Arizona areas is this impacting?  Tucson?  Flagstaff?  Is it
>>> just the Phoenix metro?
>>


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 17:30:05 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:30:05 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] stats are a mess
References: <001e01c36595$e9ec0f00$68c1b73f@fishkiller> <3F40E85D.2020709@Snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <082101c365ae$5d52d3d0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

MANY finds spontaneously went from the in-state finds to the OOS finds.  I
should have 433 in-state finds, but it's only showing 381, with 70 being
OOS.  This is the list of caches for me that are listed incorrectly.

GC08BD
 GC0BFF
 GC0C42
 GC1472
 GC1882
 GC1B39
 GC1FC2
 GC2D9F
 GC3668
 GC3E2B
 GC3F11
 GC3F35
 GC4541
 GC4CEB
 GC54C6
 GC75DE
 GC76FD
 GC7E1F
 GC7F4B
 GC854F
 GC870A
 GC870F
 GC87B5
 GC8A25
 GC8A28
 GC8A7A
 GC8A83
 GC902D
 GC905B
 GC905C
 GC98C5
 GC9974
 GC99B4
 GC9BEF
 GCAFA0
 GCB3C7
 GCB3EE
 GCB878
 GCBBC4
 GCBD33
 GCC1B7
 GCC2EC
 GCC85B
 GCC974
 GCCC92
 GCCD3F
 GCD126
 GCD464
 GCD548
 GCD60F
 GCDAFA
 GCE378


Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] stats are a mess


> Regan L Smith wrote:
> > Just thought I would add that to the frey, then
>
> Can you define mess? so we
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 17:41:48 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:41:48 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: No Gas to Geocache
References: <3F40F0F9.3000206@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <000701c365b0$00581d50$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

I was referring primarily to the lack of gas available.  It appears that
trucks are being diverted from other parts of AZ/CA/NV to service Phoenix
due to the lack of supply (anyone wonder if this is a 'staged' lack?),
driving the prices up regionally.  I'm assuming that you didn't drive to
every gas station in Payson to park in a 60+ car line at the only one with
gas like people did all over the Valley yesterday.

Brian
Team A.I.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Sparks" <scottsparks1@mchsi.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:30 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: No Gas to Geocache


> Brian of Team A.I. wrote:
>
> >It's affecting ONLY Phoenix at this time.  When I get home from work, I
can post some additional.
> >
> >Brian
> >Team A.I.
> >
>
> I'm not sure if this is entirely true.  Prices seem to be affected in
> Payson as well, though not as drastically.  I drove through Payson on
> the morning of the 13th and paid 1.55/gal.  That afternoon, I paid
> 1.62/gal at the same exact station.  Yesterday I paid 1.69/gal at the
> same station.  Other stations in town are as high as 1.78/gal. Not as
> high as the Phoenix area, but probably twenty to thirty cents higher
> than what it was a month ago.
>
> -- Sprocket
>
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> From: "Webb Pickersgill" <wpickers@cox.net>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have any idea when this gas crisis will be over?
> >>
> >>On Behalf Of
> >>> Virgil Silhanek
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What other Arizona areas is this impacting?  Tucson?  Flagstaff?  Is
it
> >>> just the Phoenix metro?
> >>
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 18:12:54 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:12:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
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This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 with 36 out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a member's only cache.
 
Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache
Freestone Lake
Birds and Butterflies
Playing in Camelot
Potluck Picnic
Random Cache 
A Very Serene Experience
Tennis Anyone?
Curiously Strong Wintergreen
Checkmate Redux
Lil Sister
The Kangaroo is Watching you
A Sporting Chance
Red Mountain Lake
Green-belt?
Neighborhood Park Dos
Gold Miner
Angel
Sunset Vista
Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend
Ye Old Boggin' Trail
Sierra Verde
Location 2246
Mo's Cache
The Moon
Fred Visits Dana Ranch
Sliver
Chips Barbecue&Soccer
Point of View
Crazy Town
Where's George
Home Run Country
Silverhawke Stash
Paradise Valley PArk
Moving Target Not On A Sunday
Desert Giant




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<DIV>This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 with 36 out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a member's only cache.</DIV>
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<DIV>Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache<BR>Freestone Lake<BR>Birds and Butterflies<BR>Playing in Camelot<BR>Potluck Picnic<BR>Random Cache <BR>A Very Serene Experience<BR>Tennis Anyone?<BR>Curiously Strong Wintergreen<BR>Checkmate Redux<BR>Lil Sister<BR>The Kangaroo is Watching you<BR>A Sporting Chance<BR>Red Mountain Lake<BR>Green-belt?<BR>Neighborhood Park Dos<BR>Gold Miner<BR>Angel<BR>Sunset Vista<BR>Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend<BR>Ye Old Boggin' Trail<BR>Sierra Verde<BR>Location 2246<BR>Mo's Cache<BR>The Moon<BR>Fred Visits Dana Ranch<BR>Sliver<BR>Chips Barbecue&amp;Soccer<BR>Point of View<BR>Crazy Town<BR>Where's George<BR>Home Run Country<BR>Silverhawke Stash<BR>Paradise Valley PArk<BR>Moving Target Not On A Sunday<BR>Desert Giant<BR><BR></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 18:23:09 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:23:09 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
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Gale,

I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, at least one of the Snaptek =
guys goes annually to a Kids Cancer Camp or sorts and spends the week =
there volunteering.  Last week was the camp, which probably explains why =
there was no response regarding the site.  Also, they work for a charter =
school running the network and all the computers.  If it isn't a =
year-round school they could have been tied up setting everything up for =
school.  However, running on Linux, there probably wasn't much to do =
except apt-get install.  :)

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: list=20
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:12 AM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats


  This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 with 36 =
out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a =
member's only cache.

  Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache
  Freestone Lake
  Birds and Butterflies
  Playing in Camelot
  Potluck Picnic
  Random Cache=20
  A Very Serene Experience
  Tennis Anyone?
  Curiously Strong Wintergreen
  Checkmate Redux
  Lil Sister
  The Kangaroo is Watching you
  A Sporting Chance
  Red Mountain Lake
  Green-belt?
  Neighborhood Park Dos
  Gold Miner
  Angel
  Sunset Vista
  Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend
  Ye Old Boggin' Trail
  Sierra Verde
  Location 2246
  Mo's Cache
  The Moon
  Fred Visits Dana Ranch
  Sliver
  Chips Barbecue&Soccer
  Point of View
  Crazy Town
  Where's George
  Home Run Country
  Silverhawke Stash
  Paradise Valley PArk
  Moving Target Not On A Sunday
  Desert Giant




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gale,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I may be wrong, but if I remember =
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work for=20
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isn't a=20
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school.&nbsp; However, running on Linux, there probably wasn't much to =
do except=20
apt-get install.&nbsp; :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dsonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com">Gale Draper</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 18, 2003 =
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  AM</DIV>
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up=20
  stats</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 =
with 36 out=20
  of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a =
member's only=20
  cache.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache<BR>Freestone Lake<BR>Birds and=20
  Butterflies<BR>Playing in Camelot<BR>Potluck Picnic<BR>Random Cache =
<BR>A Very=20
  Serene Experience<BR>Tennis Anyone?<BR>Curiously Strong=20
  Wintergreen<BR>Checkmate Redux<BR>Lil Sister<BR>The Kangaroo is =
Watching=20
  you<BR>A Sporting Chance<BR>Red Mountain =
Lake<BR>Green-belt?<BR>Neighborhood=20
  Park Dos<BR>Gold Miner<BR>Angel<BR>Sunset Vista<BR>Hidden =
MEadows-Around the=20
  Bend<BR>Ye Old Boggin' Trail<BR>Sierra Verde<BR>Location 2246<BR>Mo's=20
  Cache<BR>The Moon<BR>Fred Visits Dana Ranch<BR>Sliver<BR>Chips=20
  Barbecue&amp;Soccer<BR>Point of View<BR>Crazy Town<BR>Where's =
George<BR>Home=20
  Run Country<BR>Silverhawke Stash<BR>Paradise Valley PArk<BR>Moving =
Target Not=20
  On A Sunday<BR>Desert Giant<BR><BR></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 19:05:35 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:05:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
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I did not mean it in a cranky way at all. I was distracted when I typed it so it came out in a way it shouldn't have.

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:Gale,
 
I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, at least one of the Snaptek guys goes annually to a Kids Cancer Camp or sorts and spends the week there volunteering.  Last week was the camp, which probably explains why there was no response regarding the site.  Also, they work for a charter school running the network and all the computers.  If it isn't a year-round school they could have been tied up setting everything up for school.  However, running on Linux, there probably wasn't much to do except apt-get install.  :)
 
Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Gale Draper 
To: list 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats


This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 with 36 out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a member's only cache.
 
Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache
Freestone Lake
Birds and Butterflies
Playing in Camelot
Potluck Picnic
Random Cache 
A Very Serene Experience
Tennis Anyone?
Curiously Strong Wintergreen
Checkmate Redux
Lil Sister
The Kangaroo is Watching you
A Sporting Chance
Red Mountain Lake
Green-belt?
Neighborhood Park Dos
Gold Miner
Angel
Sunset Vista
Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend
Ye Old Boggin' Trail
Sierra Verde
Location 2246
Mo's Cache
The Moon
Fred Visits Dana Ranch
Sliver
Chips Barbecue&Soccer
Point of View
Crazy Town
Where's George
Home Run Country
Silverhawke Stash
Paradise Valley PArk
Moving Target Not On A Sunday
Desert Giant




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<DIV>I did not mean it in a&nbsp;cranky way at all. I was distracted when I typed it so it came out in a way it shouldn't have.<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gale,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, at least one of the Snaptek guys goes annually to a Kids Cancer Camp or sorts and spends the week there volunteering.&nbsp; Last week was the camp, which probably explains why there was no response regarding the site.&nbsp; Also, they work for a charter school running the network and all the computers.&nbsp; If it isn't a year-round school they could have been tied up setting everything up for school.&nbsp; However, running on Linux, there probably wasn't much to do except apt-get install.&nbsp; :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com href="mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com">Gale Draper</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">list</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 18, 2003 11:12 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 with 36 out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a member's only cache.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache<BR>Freestone Lake<BR>Birds and Butterflies<BR>Playing in Camelot<BR>Potluck Picnic<BR>Random Cache <BR>A Very Serene Experience<BR>Tennis Anyone?<BR>Curiously Strong Wintergreen<BR>Checkmate Redux<BR>Lil Sister<BR>The Kangaroo is Watching you<BR>A Sporting Chance<BR>Red Mountain Lake<BR>Green-belt?<BR>Neighborhood Park Dos<BR>Gold Miner<BR>Angel<BR>Sunset Vista<BR>Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend<BR>Ye Old Boggin' Trail<BR>Sierra Verde<BR>Location 2246<BR>Mo's Cache<BR>The Moon<BR>Fred Visits Dana Ranch<BR>Sliver<BR>Chips Barbecue&amp;Soccer<BR>Point of View<BR>Crazy Town<BR>Where's George<BR>Home Run Country<BR>Silverhawke Stash<BR>Paradise Valley PArk<BR>Moving Target Not On A Sunday<BR>Desert Giant<BR><BR></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 19:44:21 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:44:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Bank One Ballpark caches??
Message-ID: <20030818124421.25472.h003.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Hi all,
Are there any physical and/or virtual caches (still left?) inside Bank
One Ballpark? 
I just picked up a TB up on I-40 in the middle of nowhere...west of
Seligman....who's goal is to go to a DBack's game, and since we are
going to the DBacks/Giants game on 8/30, I went specifically to get
this TB. While at the game it would be nice to log other caches and
have a cache to log the TB in and out of....
thanks
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 19:51:35 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:51:35 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
Message-ID: <72C1F08B.42122A50.0013DAD2@aol.com>

Budcam & Mary cancelled an Elk scouting trip to unit 10 (Williams to Seligman, I-40 to the canyon) because of the gas SHORTAGE. We also skipped out on caching. This was the first weekend in a long time we didnt even look for one.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 19:50:17 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Richard E Holmes)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:50:17 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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This whole thing is a direct result of the Bush tax cut, exacerbated (is =
that a dirty word) by Cheney being in bed with the energy companies.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: RAND HARDIN=20
  To: AZ-Geocaching=20
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


  I heard on the news tonight that the Gov. said that there was more =
than enough gas for normal valley sales coming into the valley via truck =
- the problem has been getting it to the stations fast enough.  The Gov. =
also suggested that we not "panic buy," that we only buy what we need =
for our immediate and necessary use and this "crisis" will blow over =
soon.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: GUY ALDRICH
    Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:30 PM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!

    I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
    most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
    lines!Anyone had this problem today?

    Guy

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 20:00:40 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (David Briggs)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:00:40 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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ROFLOL

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard E Holmes [mailto:reh@reholmes.com]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:50 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


This whole thing is a direct result of the Bush tax cut, exacerbated (is
that a dirty word) by Cheney being in bed with the energy companies.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: RAND HARDIN <mailto:RHrdn8@msn.com>  
To: AZ-Geocaching <mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com>  
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!

I heard on the news tonight that the Gov. said that there was more than
enough gas for normal valley sales coming into the valley via truck - the
problem has been getting it to the stations fast enough.  The Gov. also
suggested that we not "panic buy," that we only buy what we need for our
immediate and necessary use and this "crisis" will blow over soon.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: GUY ALDRICH
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:30 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
 
I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
lines!Anyone had this problem today?

Guy



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  face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Richard E Holmes 
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  PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
  [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>This whole thing is a direct result of the Bush tax cut, 
  exacerbated (is that a dirty word) by Cheney being in bed with the energy 
  companies.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com 
    href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">AZ-Geocaching</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 18, 2003 12:34 
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>I heard on the news tonight that the Gov. said that there was more than 
    enough gas for normal valley sales&nbsp;coming into the valley via truck - 
    the problem has been getting it to the stations fast enough.&nbsp; The Gov. 
    also suggested that we not "panic buy," that we only buy what we need 
    for&nbsp;our immediate and necessary&nbsp;use and this "crisis" will blow 
    over soon.</DIV>
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      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 20:13:48 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:13:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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The news says it will be about 2 weeks before this is resolved and supplies return to normal. I can understand if a pipeline is broken, but it is fixed and waiting for the feds to approve it. The approval process could take 2 weeks.
 
The governor is having a news/press conference at 3 pm. She's back in the valley. Personally I don't think she realizes how bad it is. Mike called and said the one gas station he saw with gas has 4 Chandler cops directing traffic and keeping order. There were at least 50 cars in a long line down the road. I spent some time calling our politicians to let them know (politely) that I am concerned. Hopefully it will spur the governor/feds to correct this as soon as possible. 
 
Maybe now is a good time to work on the puzzle part of puzzle caches.

BBUDCAM@aol.com wrote:
Budcam & Mary cancelled an Elk scouting trip to unit 10 (Williams to Seligman, I-40 to the canyon) because of the gas SHORTAGE. We also skipped out on caching. This was the first weekend in a long time we didnt even look for one.
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<DIV>The news says it will be about 2 weeks before this is resolved and supplies return to normal. I can understand if a pipeline is broken, but it is fixed and waiting for the feds to approve it. The approval process could take 2 weeks.</DIV>
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<DIV>The governor is having a news/press conference at 3 pm. She's back in the valley. Personally I don't think she realizes how bad it is. Mike called and said the one gas station he saw with gas has 4 Chandler cops directing traffic and keeping order. There were at least 50 cars in a long line down the road. I spent some time calling our politicians to let them know (politely) that I am concerned. Hopefully it will spur the governor/feds to correct this as soon as possible. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Maybe now is a good time to work on the puzzle part of puzzle caches.</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Budcam &amp; Mary cancelled an Elk scouting trip to unit 10 (Williams to Seligman, I-40 to the canyon) because of the gas SHORTAGE. We also skipped out on caching. This was the first weekend in a long time we didnt even look for one.<BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 20:56:17 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Cheryl Brown)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:56:17 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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            I'll second the long lines.  We live in chandler and just
spent 2.5 hours in a line and then it took 20 min. to pump because it
was going so slow.
            But have gas to get to work for the week. Will have to find
caches within a 3 to 5 mile radius of the house :-).
            Team CBx2
 
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Gale
Draper
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:14 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
 
The news says it will be about 2 weeks before this is resolved and
supplies return to normal. I can understand if a pipeline is broken, but
it is fixed and waiting for the feds to approve it. The approval process
could take 2 weeks.
 
The governor is having a news/press conference at 3 pm. She's back in
the valley. Personally I don't think she realizes how bad it is. Mike
called and said the one gas station he saw with gas has 4 Chandler cops
directing traffic and keeping order. There were at least 50 cars in a
long line down the road. I spent some time calling our politicians to
let them know (politely) that I am concerned. Hopefully it will spur the
governor/feds to correct this as soon as possible. 
 
Maybe now is a good time to work on the puzzle part of puzzle caches.

BBUDCAM@aol.com wrote:
Budcam & Mary cancelled an Elk scouting trip to unit 10 (Williams to
Seligman, I-40 to the canyon) because of the gas SHORTAGE. We also
skipped out on caching. This was the first weekend in a long time we
didnt even look for one.
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style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>I&#8217;ll
second the long lines.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>We =
live in
chandler and just spent 2.5 hours in a line and then it took 20 min. to =
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CBx2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The news says it will be about 2 weeks before =
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resolved and supplies return to normal. I can understand if a pipeline =
is
broken, but it is fixed and waiting for the feds to approve it. The =
approval
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bad it
is. Mike called and said the one gas station he saw with gas has 4 =
Chandler
cops directing traffic and keeping order. There were at least 50 cars in =
a long
line down the road. I spent some time calling our politicians to let =
them know
(politely) that I am concerned. Hopefully it will spur the governor/feds =
to
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SHORTAGE.
We also skipped out on caching. This was the first weekend in a long =
time we
didnt even look for one.<br>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 20:52:20 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian LaFrance)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:52:20 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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LMAO at poor ignorant souls....
  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Richard E
Holmes
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:50 PM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


  This whole thing is a direct result of the Bush tax cut, exacerbated (is
that a dirty word) by Cheney being in bed with the energy companies.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: RAND HARDIN
    To: AZ-Geocaching
    Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:34 AM
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


    I heard on the news tonight that the Gov. said that there was more than
enough gas for normal valley sales coming into the valley via truck - the
problem has been getting it to the stations fast enough.  The Gov. also
suggested that we not "panic buy," that we only buy what we need for our
immediate and necessary use and this "crisis" will blow over soon.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: GUY ALDRICH
      Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:30 PM
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
      Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!

      I was planning a cacheathon this afternoon but found
      most gas stations were either out of gas or had long
      lines!Anyone had this problem today?

      Guy

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 21:03:16 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:03:16 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
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I wasn't intending my reply to make you think that was how I received =
it.  I was merely pointing out a few things so that everyone with a =
question about the stats would have what I thought was some explanation =
for not hearing anything... :)

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats


  I did not mean it in a cranky way at all. I was distracted when I =
typed it so it came out in a way it shouldn't have.

  Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote: Gale,

    I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, at least one of the =
Snaptek guys goes annually to a Kids Cancer Camp or sorts and spends the =
week there volunteering.  Last week was the camp, which probably =
explains why there was no response regarding the site.  Also, they work =
for a charter school running the network and all the computers.  If it =
isn't a year-round school they could have been tied up setting =
everything up for school.  However, running on Linux, there probably =
wasn't much to do except apt-get install.  :)

    Brian
    Team A.I.
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Gale Draper=20
      To: list=20
      Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:12 AM
      Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats


      This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 with =
36 out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a =
member's only cache.

      Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache
      Freestone Lake
      Birds and Butterflies
      Playing in Camelot
      Potluck Picnic
      Random Cache=20
      A Very Serene Experience
      Tennis Anyone?
      Curiously Strong Wintergreen
      Checkmate Redux
      Lil Sister
      The Kangaroo is Watching you
      A Sporting Chance
      Red Mountain Lake
      Green-belt?
      Neighborhood Park Dos
      Gold Miner
      Angel
      Sunset Vista
      Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend
      Ye Old Boggin' Trail
      Sierra Verde
      Location 2246
      Mo's Cache
      The Moon
      Fred Visits Dana Ranch
      Sliver
      Chips Barbecue&Soccer
      Point of View
      Crazy Town
      Where's George
      Home Run Country
      Silverhawke Stash
      Paradise Valley PArk
      Moving Target Not On A Sunday
      Desert Giant




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>I did not mean it in a&nbsp;cranky way at all. I was distracted =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I may be wrong, but if I remember =
correctly, at=20
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camp, which=20
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site.&nbsp; Also,=20
    they work for a charter school running the network and all the=20
    computers.&nbsp; If it isn't a year-round school they could have =
been tied=20
    up setting everything up for school.&nbsp; However, running on =
Linux, there=20
    probably wasn't much to do except apt-get install.&nbsp; =
:)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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messed up=20
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      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 =
with 36=20
      out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to =
a=20
      member's only cache.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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and=20
      Butterflies<BR>Playing in Camelot<BR>Potluck Picnic<BR>Random =
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      Very Serene Experience<BR>Tennis Anyone?<BR>Curiously Strong=20
      Wintergreen<BR>Checkmate Redux<BR>Lil Sister<BR>The Kangaroo is =
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      Lake<BR>Green-belt?<BR>Neighborhood Park Dos<BR>Gold=20
      Miner<BR>Angel<BR>Sunset Vista<BR>Hidden MEadows-Around the =
Bend<BR>Ye Old=20
      Boggin' Trail<BR>Sierra Verde<BR>Location 2246<BR>Mo's =
Cache<BR>The=20
      Moon<BR>Fred Visits Dana Ranch<BR>Sliver<BR>Chips=20
      Barbecue&amp;Soccer<BR>Point of View<BR>Crazy Town<BR>Where's=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 21:48:05 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <001101c365cb$2b88d4e0$6501a8c0@Personal>
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I just came back from an errand. I passed 12 gas stations. Only one had any gas. The line was 30 cars long at least (I counted 30 and stopped). 
 
I heard an interesting bit from Mark Spitzer (Az Corp Com) about the gas problem. He described how they tested the pipe over the weekend by pushing millions of gallons of water at high pressure through it (ouch-and in a drought too). The corrosion was internal, at a welded seam. The pipeline had just been inspected by the feds in July. Then he went into a political rant about how we need a refinery in Arizona......

Cheryl Brown <teamcbx2@ev1.net> wrote:


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            I’ll second the long lines.  We live in chandler and just spent 2.5 hours in a line and then it took 20 min. to pump because it was going so slow.

            But have gas to get to work for the week. Will have to find caches within a 3 to 5 mile radius of the house J.

            Team CBx2

 

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Gale Draper
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:14 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!

 

The news says it will be about 2 weeks before this is resolved and supplies return to normal. I can understand if a pipeline is broken, but it is fixed and waiting for the feds to approve it. The approval process could take 2 weeks.


 


The governor is having a news/press conference at 3 pm. She's back in the valley. Personally I don't think she realizes how bad it is. Mike called and said the one gas station he saw with gas has 4 Chandler cops directing traffic and keeping order. There were at least 50 cars in a long line down the road. I spent some time calling our politicians to let them know (politely) that I am concerned. Hopefully it will spur the governor/feds to correct this as soon as possible. 


 


Maybe now is a good time to work on the puzzle part of puzzle caches.



BBUDCAM@aol.com wrote:


Budcam & Mary cancelled an Elk scouting trip to unit 10 (Williams to Seligman, I-40 to the canyon) because of the gas SHORTAGE. We also skipped out on caching. This was the first weekend in a long time we didnt even look for one.
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<DIV>I just came back from an errand. I passed 12 gas stations. Only one had any gas. The line was 30 cars long at least (I counted 30 and stopped). </DIV>
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<DIV>I heard an interesting bit from Mark Spitzer (Az Corp Com) about the gas problem. He described how they tested the pipe over the weekend by pushing millions of gallons of water at high pressure through it (ouch-and in a drought too). The corrosion was internal, at a welded seam. The pipeline had just been&nbsp;inspected by the feds in July. Then he went into a political rant about how we need a refinery in Arizona......<BR><BR><B><I>Cheryl Brown &lt;teamcbx2@ev1.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gale Draper<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, August 18, 2003 1:14 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The governor is having a news/press conference at 3 pm. She's back in the valley. Personally I don't think she realizes how bad it is. Mike called and said the one gas station he saw with gas has 4 Chandler cops directing traffic and keeping order. There were at least 50 cars in a long line down the road. I spent some time calling our politicians to let them know (politely) that I am concerned. Hopefully it will spur the governor/feds to correct this as soon as possible. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Maybe now is a good time to work on the puzzle part of puzzle caches.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:12:38 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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My wife's car needed gas, and my truck had enough to make 1.5 trips to =
work, so I filled the tank too.  However, every station I passed on the =
way to work had gas.  On the way home, they didn't.  I just happened to =
pass an AM/PM twice, and the second time (on the way home), a tanker =
rolled in and pumped out to the station.  Most cars passing by saw the =
signs saying they were out of gas, but not smart enough to put =
tanker+fuel together.  :)  I stopped in and asked when the pumps would =
be on, and they were already active.  Filled my tank and brough my =
wife's car back 10 min later to do the same.  This was at 1am.  Working =
in public safety, I don't have the luxury of telecommuting, so I see a =
need to get gas whenever I have an opportunity just to ensure that I can =
make it to/from work each day until this BS of a shortage ends.

BTW, did anyone see the news 15 segment where that moron gas station =
owner justified his $4.00/gal for 87-octane by saying that TV stations =
can charge whatever they want for commercial segments, and that he =
should be able to as well.  Anyone want to start a pool on when his =
station is firebombed or he gets the crap beat out of him?

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


  I just came back from an errand. I passed 12 gas stations. Only one =
had any gas. The line was 30 cars long at least (I counted 30 and =
stopped).=20

  I heard an interesting bit from Mark Spitzer (Az Corp Com) about the =
gas problem. He described how they tested the pipe over the weekend by =
pushing millions of gallons of water at high pressure through it =
(ouch-and in a drought too). The corrosion was internal, at a welded =
seam. The pipeline had just been inspected by the feds in July. Then he =
went into a political rant about how we need a refinery in Arizona......

  Cheryl Brown <teamcbx2@ev1.net> wrote:
                I'll second the long lines.  We live in chandler and =
just spent 2.5 hours in a line and then it took 20 min. to pump because =
it was going so slow.

                But have gas to get to work for the week. Will have to =
find caches within a 3 to 5 mile radius of the house J.

                Team CBx2

    =20

    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Gale =
Draper
    Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:14 PM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!

    =20

    The news says it will be about 2 weeks before this is resolved and =
supplies return to normal. I can understand if a pipeline is broken, but =
it is fixed and waiting for the feds to approve it. The approval process =
could take 2 weeks.

    =20

    The governor is having a news/press conference at 3 pm. She's back =
in the valley. Personally I don't think she realizes how bad it is. Mike =
called and said the one gas station he saw with gas has 4 Chandler cops =
directing traffic and keeping order. There were at least 50 cars in a =
long line down the road. I spent some time calling our politicians to =
let them know (politely) that I am concerned. Hopefully it will spur the =
governor/feds to correct this as soon as possible.=20

    =20

    Maybe now is a good time to work on the puzzle part of puzzle =
caches.


    BBUDCAM@aol.com wrote:

      Budcam & Mary cancelled an Elk scouting trip to unit 10 (Williams =
to Seligman, I-40 to the canyon) because of the gas SHORTAGE. We also =
skipped out on caching. This was the first weekend in a long time we =
didnt even look for one.
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    On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
  "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
    "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

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    az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
    [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gale =
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about 2 weeks=20
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understand if a=20
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approve it.=20
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    size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The governor is having a =
news/press=20
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think she=20
    realizes how bad it is. Mike called and said the one gas station he =
saw with=20
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were at=20
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calling our=20
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Hopefully it=20
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      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Budcam &amp; Mary =
cancelled an Elk=20
      scouting trip to unit 10 (Williams to Seligman, I-40 to the =
canyon)=20
      because of the gas SHORTAGE. We also skipped out on caching. This =
was the=20
      first weekend in a long time we didnt even look for=20
      =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 23:21:05 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:21:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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I heard the news conference with the AG and governor. Apparently we don't have laws about price gouging so the station owners can charge whatever they want. Nice.

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:
 
BTW, did anyone see the news 15 segment where that moron gas station owner justified his $4.00/gal for 87-octane by saying that TV stations can charge whatever they want for commercial segments, and that he should be able to as well.  Anyone want to start a pool on when his station is firebombed or he gets the crap beat out of him?



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>I heard the news conference with the AG and governor. Apparently we don't have laws about price gouging so the station owners can charge whatever they want. Nice.<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, did anyone see the news 15 segment where that moron gas station owner justified his $4.00/gal for 87-octane by saying that TV stations can charge whatever they want for commercial segments, and that he should be able to as well.&nbsp; Anyone want to start a pool on when his station is firebombed or he gets the crap beat out of him?</FONT></DIV></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 23:25:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:25:42 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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They can charge what they want...this is true.  What's also true is what =
the public is going to do when they've had enough.  It's not going to be =
long before this happens.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


  I heard the news conference with the AG and governor. Apparently we =
don't have laws about price gouging so the station owners can charge =
whatever they want. Nice.

  Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:

  BTW, did anyone see the news 15 segment where that moron gas station =
owner justified his $4.00/gal for 87-octane by saying that TV stations =
can charge whatever they want for commercial segments, and that he =
should be able to as well.  Anyone want to start a pool on when his =
station is firebombed or he gets the crap beat out of him?



  Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
    On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
  "Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
    "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

  Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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  <A title=3Dsonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com">Gale Draper</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 18, 2003 =
4:21=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] No =
gas to=20
  geocache!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I heard the news conference with the AG and governor. Apparently =
we don't=20
  have laws about price gouging so the station owners can charge =
whatever they=20
  want. Nice.<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;<A=20
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  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTW, did anyone see the news 15 =
segment where=20
  that moron gas station owner justified his $4.00/gal for 87-octane by =
saying=20
  that TV stations can charge whatever they want for commercial =
segments, and=20
  that he should be able to as well.&nbsp; Anyone want to start a pool =
on when=20
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  him?</FONT></DIV></DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang =
interminable=20
  changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- =

  so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the =
Ranges=20
  --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for =
you.=20
  Go!"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
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From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:20:26 -0600
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re: No Gas to Geocache
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More Good News!
I trust that everyone affected will be happy to know that even Fuel in =
New Mexico
has increased in price at least by .10 cents a gallon.  I'm sure to =
compensate for=20
the "shortage" you are faced with in Arizona.  At least we can get fuel.
But I was $50.00 to fill my tank this afternoon, and we make the stuff =
right here!

Pablo

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 01:33:14 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:33:14 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
In-Reply-To: <001a01c365b5$c6d8d190$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
References: <20030818181254.87951.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com> <001a01c365b5$c6d8d190$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
Message-ID: <3F417E5A.9060506@snaptek.com>

Brian Casteel wrote:

> I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, at least one of the Snaptek
> guys goes annually to a Kids Cancer Camp or sorts and spends the week there volunteering.

It's actually closer to a month when all is said and done....

> Last week was the camp, which probably explains why there was no response

Jasons the one that does it, and the camp he does has been over for a 
little while now, so that must be a different one you are refering to.

> regarding the site.  Also, they work for a charter school running the
> network and all the computers.  If it isn't a year-round school they could
> have been tied up setting everything up for school. 

There are actually 10 schools in out district and I'm in charge of all 
of them.  Some are year round, but the bulk of them are starting around 
this time or year, all within 2 weeks of each other.
It's absolutly a mad house around here and will be for several more 
weeks till people stop asking us to move them data and phone connections 
around, stop breaking things, and just plain decide what they want in 
life that require technology.

 > However, running on
> Linux, there probably wasn't much to do except apt-get install.  :)

Actually there wasn't really anything to do with the server other than 
setup a few more of them :)

So... unless Jason can find time to fix it (a much more likely case) 
it's gonna have to stay broken for a while till I find the time.

Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 01:36:35 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:36:35 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
References: <20030818181254.87951.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com> <001a01c365b5$c6d8d190$0600a8c0@fbidaemon> <3F417E5A.9060506@snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <012201c365f2$536ab920$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

Well, suddenly I feel a bit 'schooled' as it were.  :)

Brian
Team A.I.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Cluff" <brian@snaptek.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats


> Brian Casteel wrote:
>
> > I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, at least one of the Snaptek
> > guys goes annually to a Kids Cancer Camp or sorts and spends the week
there volunteering.
>
> It's actually closer to a month when all is said and done....
>
> > Last week was the camp, which probably explains why there was no
response
>
> Jasons the one that does it, and the camp he does has been over for a
> little while now, so that must be a different one you are refering to.
>
> > regarding the site.  Also, they work for a charter school running the
> > network and all the computers.  If it isn't a year-round school they
could
> > have been tied up setting everything up for school.
>
> There are actually 10 schools in out district and I'm in charge of all
> of them.  Some are year round, but the bulk of them are starting around
> this time or year, all within 2 weeks of each other.
> It's absolutly a mad house around here and will be for several more
> weeks till people stop asking us to move them data and phone connections
> around, stop breaking things, and just plain decide what they want in
> life that require technology.
>
>  > However, running on
> > Linux, there probably wasn't much to do except apt-get install.  :)
>
> Actually there wasn't really anything to do with the server other than
> setup a few more of them :)
>
> So... unless Jason can find time to fix it (a much more likely case)
> it's gonna have to stay broken for a while till I find the time.
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 03:10:03 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (SIXPACK)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:10:03 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] NO GAS
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Most stations get their fuel in the wee hours of the morning,,,Here's =
what I did...I called a Diamod Shamrock and asked for the ETA of the =
next delivery..they were eager to share the info and then I called back =
at the time they gace me and theu had fuel!!..I only waited in line for =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 06:20:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jason Poulter)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:20:42 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
In-Reply-To: <20030818181254.87951.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030818181254.87951.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3F41C1BA.70809@snaptek.com>

Stats should look a little bit more accurate now!!!!

Jason
Snaptek


Gale Draper wrote:
> This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 with 36 out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a member's only cache.
>  
> Pueblo Grande Museum Event Cache
> Freestone Lake
> Birds and Butterflies
> Playing in Camelot
> Potluck Picnic
> Random Cache 
> A Very Serene Experience
> Tennis Anyone?
> Curiously Strong Wintergreen
> Checkmate Redux
> Lil Sister
> The Kangaroo is Watching you
> A Sporting Chance
> Red Mountain Lake
> Green-belt?
> Neighborhood Park Dos
> Gold Miner
> Angel
> Sunset Vista
> Hidden MEadows-Around the Bend
> Ye Old Boggin' Trail
> Sierra Verde
> Location 2246
> Mo's Cache
> The Moon
> Fred Visits Dana Ranch
> Sliver
> Chips Barbecue&Soccer
> Point of View
> Crazy Town
> Where's George
> Home Run Country
> Silverhawke Stash
> Paradise Valley PArk
> Moving Target Not On A Sunday
> Desert Giant
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 14:21:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:21:42 EDT
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re: stats corrected
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YEAH!

Thanks Jason!

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 16:05:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Hartkopf, Chuck)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:05:31 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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Lets bring back the alternative fuel credit!    We all need Hummers to go
caching :-)
 
No problems (yet) in Tucson...

-----Original Message-----
From: Gale Draper [mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:21 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


I heard the news conference with the AG and governor. Apparently we don't
have laws about price gouging so the station owners can charge whatever they
want. Nice.

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:
 
BTW, did anyone see the news 15 segment where that moron gas station owner
justified his $4.00/gal for 87-octane by saying that TV stations can charge
whatever they want for commercial segments, and that he should be able to as
well.  Anyone want to start a pool on when his station is firebombed or he
gets the crap beat out of him?


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"
 
Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898



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<DIV><SPAN class=309180216-19082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Lets 
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<DIV><SPAN class=309180216-19082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No 
problems (yet) in Tucson...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Gale Draper 
  [mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 18, 2003 
  4:21 PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
  [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>I heard the news conference with the AG and governor. Apparently we don't 
  have laws about price gouging so the station owners can charge whatever they 
  want. Nice.<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> 
  wrote:</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, did anyone see the news 15 segment where 
  that moron gas station owner justified his $4.00/gal for 87-octane by saying 
  that TV stations can charge whatever they want for commercial segments, and 
  that he should be able to as well.&nbsp; Anyone want to start a pool on when 
  his station is firebombed or he gets the crap beat out of 
  him?</FONT></DIV></DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable 
  changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- 
  so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges 
  --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. 
  Go!"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 
  1898</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 16:42:24 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:42:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
Message-ID: <20030819094225.23011.h014.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Congrats again, Larry and Connie and family,....up to 1017 as I see
the stats right now, but I also noticed that Team Sand Dollar is over
1000 total finds....! WOW!
Sorry if somebody already pointed this out, I haven't gotten thru all
my messages yet, but wanted to mantion this while I was thinking about
it.
Trisha 'Lightning'
Prescott


On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:19:06 -0700, "Richard E Holmes" wrote:








Good going, Wyle E!
 
When we joined the game you had 15 finds, and we 
said, "wow". That was in the days when we thought going out to find
one (1) 
cache on a weekend was a real kick. We found two (2) this weekend, and
it's 
still a kick.
 
OBTW; we never did find Sparky's 
Stash.
 
Dick and Carole
Creepin' Jeepers

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  connie.farquhar@cox.net 
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:36 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
  
  
  Perhaps some kind of get together when the weather is a little more 
  friendly.
  Larry was obsessed lately only because he wanted to reach this 
  landmark, and he was able to achieve this by having the free time of 
  an unemployed person (at this time). We celebrated his 1000th find
with 
  the finding of the "Free Wyle E" cache. Thank you Dan 
  for a nice cache.
  Thanks to everyone for their 
  congratulations.
  --Connie
  Team 
  "Wyle E"
  
    -----Original Message-----From: 
    az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com 
    [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of 
    Webb PickersgillSent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:50 
    PMTo: listserv@azgeocaching.comSubject: RE: 
    [Az-Geocaching] Wow!
    WOW! **I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy**  Congrats Wyle 
    E!  So, where's the party?  :)
     
    TheWebbman
    
      -----Original Message-----From: 
      az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com 
      [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf
Of 
      Brian CasteelSent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:40 
      AMTo: AZ GeocachingSubject: [Az-Geocaching] 
      Wow!
      Congrats to the recently re-obsessed Wyle E 
      for reaching the millenia-mark of geocaching!  Who's going to
throw 
      the event cache to mark the occasion?
       
      /me looks conspicuously at 
Connie
       
      Brian
      Team 
A.I.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 16:51:00 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (William Noll)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:51:00 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
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    Gas prices in the Phoenix area (and apparently in other states, =
also) have increased due to market forces (supply and demand) we are =
being told. Fair enough. But in theory, a shortage here due to a =
pipeline break should mean a glut somewhere else... Like Tucson... If =
prices there are not down to about 50 cents / gallon, then the gas =
station owners' argument falls flat. So what are Tucson gas prices? =
Price gouging may not be illegal, but price fixing and collusion in =
competitive markets is. Unfortunately, neither our Governor, nor =
Attorney General, have the spine to make the necessary phone calls to =
break the bureacratic red tape (and foot-dragging) to get the supply =
running again. And when it's over, then what? Will she have the courage =
to go against her Environmentalist supporters and make positive changes =
to the fuel delivery system in this state? Oh yea, this was off-topic!

Bill
=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Hartkopf, Chuck=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:05 AM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


  Lets bring back the alternative fuel credit!    We all need Hummers to =
go caching :-)

  No problems (yet) in Tucson...

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gas prices in the Phoenix area =
(and=20
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forces=20
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shortage=20
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Like=20
Tucson... If prices there are not down to about 50 cents / gallon, then =
the gas=20
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Price=20
gouging may not be illegal, but price fixing and collusion in =
competitive=20
markets is. Unfortunately, neither our Governor, nor Attorney General, =
have the=20
spine to make the necessary phone calls to break the bureacratic red =
tape (and=20
foot-dragging) to get the supply running again. And when it's over, then =
what?=20
Will she have the courage to go against her Environmentalist supporters =
and make=20
positive changes to the&nbsp;fuel delivery system in this state? Oh yea, =
this=20
was off-topic!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DCHartkopf@roperscientific.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:CHartkopf@roperscientific.com">Hartkopf, Chuck</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, 2003 =
9:05=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] No =
gas to=20
  geocache!</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Lets=20
  bring back the alternative fuel credit!&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;We all need =
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>No=20
  problems (yet) in Tucson...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 17:12:28 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:12:28 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <007001c36672$123146b0$88552aa2@oemcomputer>
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I bought the cheap stuff at Chevron for 1.69 yesterday.

Andy



  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of William
Noll
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:51 AM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


      Gas prices in the Phoenix area (and apparently in other states, also)
have increased due to market forces (supply and demand) we are being told.
Fair enough. But in theory, a shortage here due to a pipeline break should
mean a glut somewhere else... Like Tucson... If prices there are not down to
about 50 cents / gallon, then the gas station owners' argument falls flat.
So what are Tucson gas prices? Price gouging may not be illegal, but price
fixing and collusion in competitive markets is. Unfortunately, neither our
Governor, nor Attorney General, have the spine to make the necessary phone
calls to break the bureacratic red tape (and foot-dragging) to get the
supply running again. And when it's over, then what? Will she have the
courage to go against her Environmentalist supporters and make positive
changes to the fuel delivery system in this state? Oh yea, this was
off-topic!

  Bill

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Hartkopf, Chuck
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:05 AM
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


    Lets bring back the alternative fuel credit!    We all need Hummers to
go caching :-)

    No problems (yet) in Tucson...

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bought the cheap stuff at Chevron for 1.69 =
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<P><FONT size=3D2>Andy<BR><BR></FONT></P>
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  az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>William Noll<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:51=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
  No gas to geocache!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gas prices in the Phoenix area =
(and=20
  apparently in other states, also) have increased&nbsp;due =
to&nbsp;market=20
  forces (supply and demand) we are being told. Fair enough. But in =
theory, a=20
  shortage here due to a&nbsp;pipeline break should mean a glut =
somewhere=20
  else... Like Tucson... If prices there are not down to about 50 cents =
/=20
  gallon, then the gas station owners' argument falls flat. So what are =
Tucson=20
  gas prices? Price gouging may not be illegal, but price fixing and =
collusion=20
  in competitive markets is. Unfortunately, neither our Governor, nor =
Attorney=20
  General, have the spine to make the necessary phone calls to break the =

  bureacratic red tape (and foot-dragging) to get the supply running =
again. And=20
  when it's over, then what? Will she have the courage to go against her =

  Environmentalist supporters and make positive changes to the&nbsp;fuel =

  delivery system in this state? Oh yea, this was =
off-topic!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3DCHartkopf@roperscientific.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:CHartkopf@roperscientific.com">Hartkopf, Chuck</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, =
2003 9:05=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
No gas to=20
    geocache!</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Lets bring back the alternative fuel credit!&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;We all=20
    need Hummers to go caching :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>No=20
    problems (yet) in Tucson...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTM=
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 17:13:47 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:13:47 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <007001c36672$123146b0$88552aa2@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIKEMADLAA.andy@britishideas.com>

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Sorry, I meant 1.69.9 I fell into the trap of the deceptive .9c
trick....shame on me...

Andy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of William
Noll
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:51 AM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


      Gas prices in the Phoenix area (and apparently in other states, also)
have increased due to market forces (supply and demand) we are being told.
Fair enough. But in theory, a shortage here due to a pipeline break should
mean a glut somewhere else... Like Tucson... If prices there are not down to
about 50 cents / gallon, then the gas station owners' argument falls flat.
So what are Tucson gas prices? Price gouging may not be illegal, but price
fixing and collusion in competitive markets is. Unfortunately, neither our
Governor, nor Attorney General, have the spine to make the necessary phone
calls to break the bureacratic red tape (and foot-dragging) to get the
supply running again. And when it's over, then what? Will she have the
courage to go against her Environmentalist supporters and make positive
changes to the fuel delivery system in this state? Oh yea, this was
off-topic!

  Bill

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Hartkopf, Chuck
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:05 AM
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


    Lets bring back the alternative fuel credit!    We all need Hummers to
go caching :-)

    No problems (yet) in Tucson...

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on=20
me...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>William Noll<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:51=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
  No gas to geocache!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gas prices in the Phoenix area =
(and=20
  apparently in other states, also) have increased&nbsp;due =
to&nbsp;market=20
  forces (supply and demand) we are being told. Fair enough. But in =
theory, a=20
  shortage here due to a&nbsp;pipeline break should mean a glut =
somewhere=20
  else... Like Tucson... If prices there are not down to about 50 cents =
/=20
  gallon, then the gas station owners' argument falls flat. So what are =
Tucson=20
  gas prices? Price gouging may not be illegal, but price fixing and =
collusion=20
  in competitive markets is. Unfortunately, neither our Governor, nor =
Attorney=20
  General, have the spine to make the necessary phone calls to break the =

  bureacratic red tape (and foot-dragging) to get the supply running =
again. And=20
  when it's over, then what? Will she have the courage to go against her =

  Environmentalist supporters and make positive changes to the&nbsp;fuel =

  delivery system in this state? Oh yea, this was =
off-topic!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3DCHartkopf@roperscientific.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:CHartkopf@roperscientific.com">Hartkopf, Chuck</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, =
2003 9:05=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
No gas to=20
    geocache!</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Lets bring back the alternative fuel credit!&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;We all=20
    need Hummers to go caching :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D309180216-19082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>No=20
    problems (yet) in Tucson...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTM=
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 17:15:51 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jim Scotti)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:15:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <007001c36672$123146b0$88552aa2@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0308190959360.27024-100000@arjuna.lpl.arizona.edu>

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, William Noll wrote:

>     Gas prices in the Phoenix area (and apparently in other states, also)
> have increased due to market forces (supply and demand) we are being
> told. Fair enough. But in theory, a shortage here due to a pipeline break
> should mean a glut somewhere else... Like Tucson... If prices there are
> not down to about 50 cents / gallon, then the gas station owners'
> argument falls flat. So what are Tucson gas prices? Price gouging may not
> be illegal, but price fixing and collusion in competitive markets is.
> Unfortunately, neither our Governor, nor Attorney General, have the spine
> to make the necessary phone calls to break the bureacratic red tape (and
> foot-dragging) to get the supply running again. And when it's over, then
> what? Will she have the courage to go against her Environmentalist
> supporters and make positive changes to the fuel delivery system in this
> state? Oh yea, this was off-topic!
> 
> Bill

Well, while our gas prices down here in Tucson are not approaching $4 a
gallon like I saw on the news last night about Phoenix, they are running
close to $1.70, up from close to $1.50 before the gas pipeline break.  Most
of that jump happened within about 2 or 3 days just after the pipeline break
story broke - coincidence?  The shortage may be having a small affect here in
Tucson since apparently, our gas terminals are being saturated by tankers
from the Phoenix area - tankers distributing gas locally are competing with
those transporting it up to Phoenix and so there is some difficulty meeting
the demand.  I have not seen any stations that did not have gas, however.

I also heard a guest on one of the morning radio shows while driving in to
work talking about the Phoenix situation.  Supposedly, 70% of the gas
delivered in Phoenix comes from California, and the remainder comes through
Tucson via the pipeline, presumably.  So, that leads to the question of why
there appears to be such a shortage - there should be at least 70% of the
supply intact with considerable of the remaining 30% being supplied via
tanker instead of pipeline from Tucson.  Something smells fishy around
here....  I've heard stories on this listserve about passing 4 or 5 closed
stations before finding one with a long line - are you having the same
trouble adding this equation up as I am?

And the required geocaching part of this otherwise off-topic post: It's not
the gas situation that has kept me from going geocaching, just too many other
things going on around here!  Did anyone see the repeat of Enterprise last
week?  Some of the crew were descending into a cave on an alien planet
chasing some alien scientists that needed to be found and removed from the
planet before the bad guys of the week closed the planet to them and during
the descent, one of the crew finds a little tupperware-like container with
some rock samples in it.  My son thought I was nuts (as usual) as I exclaimed
"Hey, a geocache!"

Jim.

Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                 http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/    


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 17:47:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:47:31 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: messed up stats
Message-ID: <3F4262B3.6090000@mchsi.com>

Jason,
  Let me be the first to say THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! 
THANK YOU!
My universe has now been restored to order. :-)

-- Sprocket

>Message: 7
>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:20:42 -0700
>From: Jason Poulter <polt@snaptek.com>
>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>
>Stats should look a little bit more accurate now!!!!
>
>Jason
>Snaptek
>
>
>Gale Draper wrote:
>  
>
>>> This is my list (posted now for the third time). I "have" 159 with 36 out of state, when I should have 194 with 1 out of state thanks to a member's only cache.
>>> 
>>



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 17:43:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:43:02 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re: stats corrected
References: <bc.3c5b6886.2c738c76@aol.com>
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Jason you rock!

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: CacheUsOut@aol.com=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 7:21 AM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re: stats corrected


  YEAH!

  Thanks Jason!

  CacheUsOut - Doug 
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jason you rock!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 18:59:47 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Pat Thompson)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:59:47 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #1371 - 6 msgs
References: <200308191905.MAA27155@ns2.sequoia.net>
Message-ID: <3F4273A3.6000808@cox.net>


Thanks, Jason, for taking the time to get the stats straight. All the best,
Team Seeking
Pat & Jan Thompson


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 19:34:32 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:34:32 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
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I was on my way home from some errands when I passed the Chevron at =
Crismon/Broadway.  3 MCSO deputies and Rural Metro were on the scene =
where an Oldsmobile (I think) and a Chevy Tahoe collided, sending the =
car into the retention basin just outside the station.  If I were to =
venture a guess (which I will), I'd say these 2 morons were competing to =
get into the station before the other to get gas.

Bwahahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!!


Serves them right.  I think at least for now the shortage appears to be =
to some degree under control, as I only passed 1 station this morning =
without gas, but people were still lined up at all but one for fuel.  =
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Brian
Team A.I.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 21:15:47 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Eric Bay)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:15:47 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
Message-ID: <BAY1-F149YSl1q4gtop0000a78f@hotmail.com>

I was driving home from lunch not too long ago and the one gas station open 
around my house (NW corner of McClintock and Elliot) had a 45+ line up to 
it, 45 is what I counted without counting the people at the pump.  It shows 
how dependent our society is on oil.  It also makes me wonder why people 
can't just use an alternative method of travel.  When traveling to a grocery 
store, or a friends house, or a movie store down the street, it would be 
very little hassle to bike or skate, but NOOOOO, "I need my car!!!".  
Granite I know that some people need to commute to work long distances at 
weird times of the day, but most places we need to go can be found within a 
couple miles of our house.  People are spoiled, big time, the gas situation 
could really be nothing if people would do their two bits to help.  Thats my 
opinion anyway, I'll get off my soap box now, hey, its time to skate to some 
close by geocaches. Huzzah!!

~Crazyebay

>From: "Brian Casteel" <bcasteel@cox.net>
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: "AZ Geocaching" <az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com>
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:34:32 -0700
>
>I was on my way home from some errands when I passed the Chevron at 
>Crismon/Broadway.  3 MCSO deputies and Rural Metro were on the scene where 
>an Oldsmobile (I think) and a Chevy Tahoe collided, sending the car into 
>the retention basin just outside the station.  If I were to venture a guess 
>(which I will), I'd say these 2 morons were competing to get into the 
>station before the other to get gas.
>
>Bwahahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!!
>
>
>Serves them right.  I think at least for now the shortage appears to be to 
>some degree under control, as I only passed 1 station this morning without 
>gas, but people were still lined up at all but one for fuel.  We'll see 
>what happens later today when I ship my defective hard drive back for RMA.
>
>Brian
>Team A.I.

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 21:20:01 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:20:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0308190959360.27024-100000@arjuna.lpl.arizona.edu>
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I needed gas so last night at 11 pm, I waited half an hour in line and paid $1.99 per gallon. Everyone was well behaved. I don't know what it is like today, but yesterday afternoon only 1 in 12 gas stations in my area had gas. Last night only 1 in 10 had gas.
The news showed one independent on the west side charging $4.97 per gallon before he closed down due to personal safety concerns. (Sheesh, you think?)
 
We have an unofficial contest between Mike and I to see who can find the geocache or the coordinates in tv or films that we watch. Virtual geocaching seems to be all we can do for now (and not because of gas). Looking forward to the event cache this weekend. I'll have 3 TBs with me.

Jim Scotti <jscotti@pirlserver.lpl.Arizona.EDU> wrote:
 
Well, while our gas prices down here in Tucson are not approaching $4 a
gallon like I saw on the news last night about Phoenix, they are 
running
close to $1.70, up from close to $1.50 before the gas pipeline break.  
Most
of that jump happened within about 2 or 3 days just after the pipeline 
break
story broke - coincidence?  The shortage may be having a small affect 
here in
Tucson since apparently, our gas terminals are being saturated by 
tankers
from the Phoenix area - tankers distributing gas locally are competing 
with
those transporting it up to Phoenix and so there is some difficulty 
meeting
the demand.  I have not seen any stations that did not have gas, 
however.

I also heard a guest on one of the morning radio shows while driving in 
to
work talking about the Phoenix situation.  Supposedly, 70% of the gas
delivered in Phoenix comes from California, and the remainder comes 
through
Tucson via the pipeline, presumably.  So, that leads to the question of 
why
there appears to be such a shortage - there should be at least 70% of 
the
supply intact with considerable of the remaining 30% being supplied via
tanker instead of pipeline from Tucson.  Something smells fishy around
here....  I've heard stories on this listserve about passing 4 or 5 
closed
stations before finding one with a long line - are you having the same
trouble adding this equation up as I am?

And the required geocaching part of this otherwise off-topic post: It's 
not
the gas situation that has kept me from going geocaching, just too many 
other
things going on around here!  Did anyone see the repeat of Enterprise 
last
week?  Some of the crew were descending into a cave on an alien planet
chasing some alien scientists that needed to be found and removed from 
the
planet before the bad guys of the week closed the planet to them and 
during
the descent, one of the crew finds a little tupperware-like container 
with
some rock samples in it.  My son thought I was nuts (as usual) as I 
exclaimed
"Hey, a geocache!"




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<DIV>I needed gas so last night at 11 pm, I waited half an hour in line and paid $1.99 per gallon. Everyone was well behaved. I don't know what it is like today, but yesterday afternoon only 1 in 12 gas stations in my area had gas. Last night only 1 in 10 had gas.</DIV>
<DIV>The news showed one independent on the west side charging $4.97 per gallon before he closed down due to personal safety concerns. (Sheesh, you think?)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>We have an unofficial contest between Mike and I to see who can find the geocache or the coordinates&nbsp;in tv or films that we watch. Virtual geocaching seems to be all we can do for now (and not because of gas). Looking forward to the event cache this weekend. I'll have 3 TBs with me.<BR><BR><B><I>Jim Scotti &lt;jscotti@pirlserver.lpl.Arizona.EDU&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Well, while our gas prices down here in Tucson are not approaching $4 a<BR>gallon like I saw on the news last night about Phoenix, they are <BR>running<BR>close to $1.70, up from close to $1.50 before the gas pipeline break.&nbsp; <BR>Most<BR>of that jump happened within about 2 or 3 days just after the pipeline <BR>break<BR>story broke - coincidence?&nbsp; The shortage may be having a small affect <BR>here in<BR>Tucson since apparently, our gas terminals are being saturated by <BR>tankers<BR>from the Phoenix area - tankers distributing gas locally are competing <BR>with<BR>those transporting it up to Phoenix and so there is some difficulty <BR>meeting<BR>the demand.&nbsp; I have not seen any stations that did not have gas, <BR>however.<BR><BR>I also heard a guest on one of the morning radio shows while driving in <BR>to<BR>work talking about the Phoenix situation.&nbsp; Supposedly, 70% of the gas<BR>delivered in Phoenix comes from California, and the remainder comes
 <BR>through<BR>Tucson via the pipeline, presumably.&nbsp; So, that leads to the question of <BR>why<BR>there appears to be such a shortage - there should be at least 70% of <BR>the<BR>supply intact with considerable of the remaining 30% being supplied via<BR>tanker instead of pipeline from Tucson.&nbsp; Something smells fishy around<BR>here....&nbsp; I've heard stories on this listserve about passing 4 or 5 <BR>closed<BR>stations before finding one with a long line - are you having the same<BR>trouble adding this equation up as I am?<BR><BR>And the required geocaching part of this otherwise off-topic post: It's <BR>not<BR>the gas situation that has kept me from going geocaching, just too many <BR>other<BR>things going on around here!&nbsp; Did anyone see the repeat of Enterprise <BR>last<BR>week?&nbsp; Some of the crew were descending into a cave on an alien planet<BR>chasing some alien scientists that needed to be found and removed from <BR>the<BR>planet before the bad guys of the
 week closed the planet to them and <BR>during<BR>the descent, one of the crew finds a little tupperware-like container <BR>with<BR>some rock samples in it.&nbsp; My son thought I was nuts (as usual) as I <BR>exclaimed<BR>"Hey, a geocache!"<BR><BR></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 21:23:00 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] messed up stats
In-Reply-To: <3F41C1BA.70809@snaptek.com>
Message-ID: <20030819212300.73409.qmail@web14808.mail.yahoo.com>

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If I didn't mention it yesterday, thank you very much for fixing it. The azgeocaching.com website makes Arizona geocaching all the more enjoyable.

Jason Poulter <polt@snaptek.com> wrote:
 
Stats should look a little bit more accurate now!!!!

Jason
Snaptek




Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>If I didn't mention it yesterday, thank you very much for fixing it. The azgeocaching.com website makes Arizona geocaching all the more enjoyable.<BR><BR><B><I>Jason Poulter &lt;polt@snaptek.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Stats should look a little bit more accurate now!!!!<BR><BR>Jason<BR>Snaptek<BR><BR></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 21:23:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:23:42 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
References: <BAY1-F149YSl1q4gtop0000a78f@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <007101c36698$29f85ab0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

Yep, I'm in total agreement with you.  If I need to go to the grocery/video
store, I'll hop on the mtn bike and cruise up there.  If need be, I'll ride
up to Checker for stuff for my truck later, even though trying to cross
Apache Trail/Ellsworth on bike is akin to vehicular suicide.  :)  But I
wouldn't ride to work (32 miles one-way), I have to draw the line somewhere.

Brian
Team A.I.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Bay" <ebay1_03@hotmail.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!


> I was driving home from lunch not too long ago and the one gas station
open
> around my house (NW corner of McClintock and Elliot) had a 45+ line up to
> it, 45 is what I counted without counting the people at the pump.  It
shows
> how dependent our society is on oil.  It also makes me wonder why people
> can't just use an alternative method of travel.  When traveling to a
grocery
> store, or a friends house, or a movie store down the street, it would be
> very little hassle to bike or skate, but NOOOOO, "I need my car!!!".
> Granite I know that some people need to commute to work long distances at
> weird times of the day, but most places we need to go can be found within
a
> couple miles of our house.  People are spoiled, big time, the gas
situation
> could really be nothing if people would do their two bits to help.  Thats
my
> opinion anyway, I'll get off my soap box now, hey, its time to skate to
some
> close by geocaches. Huzzah!!
>
> ~Crazyebay
>
> >From: "Brian Casteel" <bcasteel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >To: "AZ Geocaching" <az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com>
> >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
> >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:34:32 -0700
> >
> >I was on my way home from some errands when I passed the Chevron at
> >Crismon/Broadway.  3 MCSO deputies and Rural Metro were on the scene
where
> >an Oldsmobile (I think) and a Chevy Tahoe collided, sending the car into

> >the retention basin just outside the station.  If I were to venture a
guess
> >(which I will), I'd say these 2 morons were competing to get into the
> >station before the other to get gas.
> >
> >Bwahahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >Serves them right.  I think at least for now the shortage appears to be
to
> >some degree under control, as I only passed 1 station this morning
without
> >gas, but people were still lined up at all but one for fuel.  We'll see
> >what happens later today when I ship my defective hard drive back for
RMA.
> >
> >Brian
> >Team A.I.
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 21:30:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Matlak, Bryan W)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:30:31 -0500
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
Message-ID: <BD8CAB0429A8154D963A6D737409AE7D45814F@USMV-EXCH3.na.uis.unisys.com>

Seeing this is Arizona and all I think we should go back to riding horses. I
would love to ride my horse down the middle of Chandler Blvd and tie it up
outside my office. :)

Bryan 
Horse&Rider

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Bay [mailto:ebay1_03@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:16 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!


I was driving home from lunch not too long ago and the one gas station open 
around my house (NW corner of McClintock and Elliot) had a 45+ line up to 
it, 45 is what I counted without counting the people at the pump.  It shows 
how dependent our society is on oil.  It also makes me wonder why people 
can't just use an alternative method of travel.  When traveling to a grocery

store, or a friends house, or a movie store down the street, it would be 
very little hassle to bike or skate, but NOOOOO, "I need my car!!!".  
Granite I know that some people need to commute to work long distances at 
weird times of the day, but most places we need to go can be found within a 
couple miles of our house.  People are spoiled, big time, the gas situation 
could really be nothing if people would do their two bits to help.  Thats my

opinion anyway, I'll get off my soap box now, hey, its time to skate to some

close by geocaches. Huzzah!!

~Crazyebay

>From: "Brian Casteel" <bcasteel@cox.net>
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: "AZ Geocaching" <az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com>
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:34:32 -0700
>
>I was on my way home from some errands when I passed the Chevron at 
>Crismon/Broadway.  3 MCSO deputies and Rural Metro were on the scene where 
>an Oldsmobile (I think) and a Chevy Tahoe collided, sending the car into 
>the retention basin just outside the station.  If I were to venture a guess

>(which I will), I'd say these 2 morons were competing to get into the 
>station before the other to get gas.
>
>Bwahahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!!
>
>
>Serves them right.  I think at least for now the shortage appears to be to 
>some degree under control, as I only passed 1 station this morning without 
>gas, but people were still lined up at all but one for fuel.  We'll see 
>what happens later today when I ship my defective hard drive back for RMA.
>
>Brian
>Team A.I.

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 21:37:11 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:37:11 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
References: <20030819212001.19151.qmail@web14802.mail.yahoo.com>
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Just about an hour ago the episode of Jag was on where Harm goes down in =
bad weather.  They rambled off lat/long but before I could get back into =
the living room, I missed too much of it.  Was going to look it up and =
see if the coords actually fell within the area they stated the aircraft =
went down in.  Hrmph.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!


  I needed gas so last night at 11 pm, I waited half an hour in line and =
paid $1.99 per gallon. Everyone was well behaved. I don't know what it =
is like today, but yesterday afternoon only 1 in 12 gas stations in my =
area had gas. Last night only 1 in 10 had gas.
  The news showed one independent on the west side charging $4.97 per =
gallon before he closed down due to personal safety concerns. (Sheesh, =
you think?)

  We have an unofficial contest between Mike and I to see who can find =
the geocache or the coordinates in tv or films that we watch. Virtual =
geocaching seems to be all we can do for now (and not because of gas). =
Looking forward to the event cache this weekend. I'll have 3 TBs with =
me.

  Jim Scotti <jscotti@pirlserver.lpl.Arizona.EDU> wrote:

  Well, while our gas prices down here in Tucson are not approaching $4 =
a
  gallon like I saw on the news last night about Phoenix, they are=20
  running
  close to $1.70, up from close to $1.50 before the gas pipeline break.  =

  Most
  of that jump happened within about 2 or 3 days just after the pipeline =

  break
  story broke - coincidence?  The shortage may be having a small affect=20
  here in
  Tucson since apparently, our gas terminals are being saturated by=20
  tankers
  from the Phoenix area - tankers distributing gas locally are competing =

  with
  those transporting it up to Phoenix and so there is some difficulty=20
  meeting
  the demand.  I have not seen any stations that did not have gas,=20
  however.

  I also heard a guest on one of the morning radio shows while driving =
in=20
  to
  work talking about the Phoenix situation.  Supposedly, 70% of the gas
  delivered in Phoenix comes from California, and the remainder comes=20
  through
  Tucson via the pipeline, presumably.  So, that leads to the question =
of=20
  why
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  stations before finding one with a long line - are you having the same
  trouble adding this equation up as I am?

  And the required geocaching part of this otherwise off-topic post: =
It's=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, 2003 =
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gas to=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I needed gas so last night at 11 pm, I waited half an hour in =
line and=20
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is like=20
  today, but yesterday afternoon only 1 in 12 gas stations in my area =
had gas.=20
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  <DIV>The news showed one independent on the west side charging $4.97 =
per=20
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you=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>We have an unofficial contest between Mike and I to see who can =
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  geocaching seems to be all we can do for now (and not because of gas). =
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having=20
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required=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 21:38:07 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jim Scotti)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:38:07 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
In-Reply-To: <007101c36698$29f85ab0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0308191431140.27024-100000@arjuna.lpl.arizona.edu>

That's really the problem isn't it?  We all live in our western lifestyles
where we live many miles from where we work.  It's one thing to hop on a bike
and go a mile or two to Safeway, but when you work 10 or more miles from
home, you gotta burn the gas to get there.  Our cities have spread out so
that it is almost expected that you live in the 'burbs and work in town.

While I love my SUV, I really think maybe my next car will be a Toyota Prius
or some other energy efficient car.  But these small cars like the Prius just
don't carry families very well yet.  Putting even one teenager in the
backseat of a small car like that is not very fun.  And then there's the
cargo issue.  And I love taking those unimproved dirt roads out to geocaches
too....

Jim.


On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Brian Casteel wrote:

> Yep, I'm in total agreement with you.  If I need to go to the grocery/video
> store, I'll hop on the mtn bike and cruise up there.  If need be, I'll ride
> up to Checker for stuff for my truck later, even though trying to cross
> Apache Trail/Ellsworth on bike is akin to vehicular suicide.  :)  But I
> wouldn't ride to work (32 miles one-way), I have to draw the line somewhere.
> 
> Brian
> Team A.I.
> 
> 

Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                 http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/    


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 22:18:06 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:18:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
Message-ID: <20030819151807.26587.h011.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

I remember that episode when it originally aired and I believe I did a
quick mental check that, yes, the coords were in the right area.
(I would hope the military advisors on a show like that wouldn't make
such an obvious mistake!)

Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott


On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:37:11 -0700, "Brian Casteel" wrote:








Just about an hour ago the episode of Jag was on 
where Harm goes down in bad weather.  They rambled off lat/long but
before 
I could get back into the living room, I missed too much of it.  Was
going 
to look it up and see if the coords actually fell within the area they
stated 
the aircraft went down in.  Hrmph.
 
Brian
Team A.I.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Gale Draper 
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:20 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to 
  geocache!
  
  I needed gas so last night at 11 pm, I waited half an hour in line
and 
  paid $1.99 per gallon. Everyone was well behaved. I don't know what
it is like 
  today, but yesterday afternoon only 1 in 12 gas stations in my area
had gas. 
  Last night only 1 in 10 had gas.
  The news showed one independent on the west side charging $4.97 per 
  gallon before he closed down due to personal safety concerns.
(Sheesh, you 
  think?)
   
  We have an unofficial contest between Mike and I to see who can find
the 
  geocache or the coordinates in tv or films that we watch. Virtual 
  geocaching seems to be all we can do for now (and not because of
gas). Looking 
  forward to the event cache this weekend. I'll have 3 TBs with 
  me.Jim Scotti <jscotti@pirlserver.lpl.Arizona.EDU> 
  wrote:
   
  Well, while our gas prices down here in Tucson are not approaching
$4 
  agallon like I saw on the news last night about Phoenix, they are 
  runningclose to $1.70, up from close to $1.50 before the gas
pipeline 
  break.  Mostof that jump happened within about 2 or 3 days just 
  after the pipeline breakstory broke - coincidence?  The shortage 
  may be having a small affect here inTucson since apparently, our gas 
  terminals are being saturated by tankersfrom the Phoenix area - 
  tankers distributing gas locally are competing withthose
transporting 
  it up to Phoenix and so there is some difficulty meetingthe 
  demand.  I have not seen any stations that did not have gas, 
  however.I also heard a guest on one of the morning radio shows 
  while driving in towork talking about the Phoenix situation.  
  Supposedly, 70% of the gasdelivered in Phoenix comes from
California, and 
  the remainder comes throughTucson via the pipeline, presumably.  
  So, that leads to the question of whythere appears to be such a 
  shortage - there should be at least 70% of thesupply intact with 
  considerable of the remaining 30% being supplied viatanker instead
of 
  pipeline from Tucson.  Something smells fishy aroundhere....  
  I've heard stories on this listserve about passing 4 or 5 
  closedstations before finding one with a long line - are you having 
  the sametrouble adding this equation up as I am?And the required 
  geocaching part of this otherwise off-topic post: It's notthe gas 
  situation that has kept me from going geocaching, just too many 
  otherthings going on around here!  Did anyone see the repeat of 
  Enterprise lastweek?  Some of the crew were descending into a 
  cave on an alien planetchasing some alien scientists that needed to
be 
  found and removed from theplanet before the bad guys ! of the week 
  closed the planet to them and duringthe descent, one of the crew
finds 
  a little tupperware-like container withsome rock samples in it.  
  My son thought I was nuts (as usual) as I exclaimed"Hey, a 
  geocache!"
  
  
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 22:21:12 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 15:21:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash! and Star Trek
Message-ID: <20030819152113.28307.h011.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Last year I downsized from a full-size Isuzu Trooper 4x4 (bad gas
mileage) to a Subaru Forester...all wheel drive, smaller, great gas
mileage. I miss the extra room but I sure like the dependability,
performance, handling, gas economy and safety.

And Jim, I love that episode of ST.... in fact, I thought the same
thing...a themed geocache of rocks! Geez, I gotta get some different
hobbies.

Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott


On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:38:07 -0700 (MST), Jim Scotti wrote:

> 
> That's really the problem isn't it?  We all live in our western
> lifestyles
> where we live many miles from where we work.  It's one thing to hop
on
> a bike
> and go a mile or two to Safeway, but when you work 10 or more miles
> from
> home, you gotta burn the gas to get there.  Our cities have spread
out
> so
> that it is almost expected that you live in the 'burbs and work in
> town.
> 
> While I love my SUV, I really think maybe my next car will be a
Toyota
> Prius
> or some other energy efficient car.  But these small cars like the
> Prius just
> don't carry families very well yet.  Putting even one teenager in the
> backseat of a small car like that is not very fun.  And then there's
> the
> cargo issue.  And I love taking those unimproved dirt roads out to
> geocaches
> too....
> 
> Jim.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Brian Casteel wrote:
> 
> > Yep, I'm in total agreement with you.  If I need to go to the
> grocery/video
> > store, I'll hop on the mtn bike and cruise up there.  If need be,
> I'll ride
> > up to Checker for stuff for my truck later, even though trying to
> cross
> > Apache Trail/Ellsworth on bike is akin to vehicular suicide.  :) 
> But I
> > wouldn't ride to work (32 miles one-way), I have to draw the line
> somewhere.
> > 
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Jim Scotti
> Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                
> http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/    
> 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 23:15:17 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:15:17 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Letter to the Editor
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Every once in awhile, something strikes a nerve and I have a moment of =
enlightened thought, which I put in the form of an e-mail and fire off =
to The Tribune to give a voice to my words.  Here's the latest =
incarnation of my thought process, so tell me what you think.

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So a pipeline ruptures and is shutdown for 'safety' concerns.  =
Meanwhile, this pipeline that supplies (latest random figure) 30% of the =
fuel to Phoenix creates a lack of fuel at a percentage of fuel pumps FAR =
exceeding the 30% deficit we are experiencing by this pipeline =
situation.  Just as we saw when the war with Iraq began, price gouging =
was realized at a number of stations around the Valley.  Channel 15 =
interviews a gas station owner live where he tries to push off the =
justification of his $4.00/gallon prices by criticizing the fact that =
the very station is interviewing him can charge what they feel for a =
commercial spot during any show on-air, and he should have the ability =
to charge whatever he wants for his fuel.  Another also shown on TV shut =
his station down amid safety concerns (should we be surprised?) for =
robbing customers with an astronomical $4.97/gallon.  Where is all this =
leading?  Price gouging, and the lack of laws against it.  Already this =
year, we've seen 2 situations which have spiked fuel prices to =
unnecessary highs, and unscrupulous business owners taking advantage of =
customers to line their pockets with a flood of ill-gotten gain.

My question to the legislators of this state is this:  Which of you is =
going to step to the plate and propose legislation (and follow it to =
signing) that will outlaw such practices and instigate a more fair =
system of pricing for consumers on fuel?  I'm thinking that Jeff =
Groscost should lend his time to someone to assist in this endeavour.

What has transpired this past week with all these fuel delivery problems =
is something that never should have been allowed to happen.  There needs =
to be regulation at the pumps if only in the form of anti-gouging laws.  =
At least then a ceiling would be set, but I would expect there to be a =
number of hoops and a system of checks and balances that would make it =
difficult for owners to raise their prices to that ceiling without =
concrete justification.  Come on legislators, let's see what you can do =
about protecting the consumer, who are coincidentally, also your =
constituents.

Brian
Team A.I.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 00:27:29 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (William Noll)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:27:29 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Letter to the Editor
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As a successful Letter-to-the-Editor writer, I can tell you that unless =
you're doing a 'My Turn' segment, it's a bit too long. Newspapers like =
them short and sweet, usually with a rhetorical bent. If it appears as =
though you know more than the editor (or the writers) about the subject, =
they won't print it unless you are someone very important. And worse, a =
really well written letter is often 'edited' for 'length or clarity', =
often missing the writers original point. Think like an 8th grader, =
that's the reading level the paper is written for. And don't be =
technical, Journalism majors and Liberal Arts college grads have a real =
problem with big words!

Bill

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Brian Casteel=20
  To: AZ Geocaching=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:15 PM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Letter to the Editor


  Every once in awhile, something strikes a nerve and I have a moment of =
enlightened thought, which I put in the form of an e-mail and fire off =
to The Tribune to give a voice to my words.  Here's the latest =
incarnation of my thought process, so tell me what you think.

  =
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  So a pipeline ruptures and is shutdown for 'safety' concerns.  =
Meanwhile, this pipeline that supplies (latest random figure) 30% of the =
fuel to Phoenix creates a lack of fuel at a percentage of fuel pumps FAR =
exceeding the 30% deficit we are experiencing by this pipeline =
situation.  Just as we saw when the war with Iraq began, price gouging =
was realized at a number of stations around the Valley.  Channel 15 =
interviews a gas station owner live where he tries to push off the =
justification of his $4.00/gallon prices by criticizing the fact that =
the very station is interviewing him can charge what they feel for a =
commercial spot during any show on-air, and he should have the ability =
to charge whatever he wants for his fuel.  Another also shown on TV shut =
his station down amid safety concerns (should we be surprised?) for =
robbing customers with an astronomical $4.97/gallon.  Where is all this =
leading?  Price gouging, and the lack of laws against it.  Already this =
year, we've seen 2 situations which have spiked fuel prices to =
unnecessary highs, and unscrupulous business owners taking advantage of =
customers to line their pockets with a flood of ill-gotten gain.

  My question to the legislators of this state is this:  Which of you is =
going to step to the plate and propose legislation (and follow it to =
signing) that will outlaw such practices and instigate a more fair =
system of pricing for consumers on fuel?  I'm thinking that Jeff =
Groscost should lend his time to someone to assist in this endeavour.

  What has transpired this past week with all these fuel delivery =
problems is something that never should have been allowed to happen.  =
There needs to be regulation at the pumps if only in the form of =
anti-gouging laws.  At least then a ceiling would be set, but I would =
expect there to be a number of hoops and a system of checks and balances =
that would make it difficult for owners to raise their prices to that =
ceiling without concrete justification.  Come on legislators, let's see =
what you can do about protecting the consumer, who are coincidentally, =
also your constituents.

  Brian
  Team A.I.
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words!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dbcasteel@cox.net href=3D"mailto:bcasteel@cox.net">Brian =
Casteel</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Daz-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">AZ =
Geocaching</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, 2003 =
4:15=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Letter =
to the=20
  Editor</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Every once in awhile, something =
strikes a nerve=20
  and I have a moment of enlightened thought, which I put in the form of =
an=20
  e-mail and fire off to The Tribune to give a voice to my words.&nbsp; =
Here's=20
  the latest incarnation of my thought process, so tell me what you=20
  think.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>----------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------------</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So a pipeline ruptures and is =
shutdown for=20
  'safety' concerns.&nbsp; Meanwhile,&nbsp;this pipeline that supplies =
(latest=20
  random figure) 30% of the fuel to Phoenix creates a lack of fuel at a=20
  percentage of fuel pumps FAR exceeding the 30% deficit we are =
experiencing by=20
  this pipeline situation.&nbsp; Just as we saw when the war with Iraq =
began,=20
  price gouging was realized at a number of stations around the =
Valley.&nbsp;=20
  Channel 15 interviews a gas station owner live where he tries to push =
off the=20
  justification of his $4.00/gallon prices by criticizing the fact that =
the very=20
  station&nbsp;is interviewing him can charge what they feel for a =
commercial=20
  spot during any show on-air, and he should have the ability to charge =
whatever=20
  he wants for his fuel.&nbsp; Another also shown on TV shut his station =
down=20
  amid safety concerns (should we be surprised?) for robbing customers =
with an=20
  astronomical $4.97/gallon.&nbsp; Where is all this leading?&nbsp; =
Price=20
  gouging, and the lack of laws against it.&nbsp; Already this year, =
we've seen=20
  2 situations which have spiked fuel prices to unnecessary highs, and=20
  unscrupulous business owners taking advantage of customers to line =
their=20
  pockets with a flood of ill-gotten gain.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My question to the legislators of =
this state is=20
  this:&nbsp; Which of you is going to step to the plate and propose =
legislation=20
  (and follow it to signing) that will outlaw such practices and =
instigate a=20
  more fair system of pricing for consumers on fuel?&nbsp; I'm thinking =
that=20
  Jeff Groscost should lend his time to someone to assist in this=20
  endeavour.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What has transpired this past week =
with all these=20
  fuel delivery problems is something that never should have been =
allowed to=20
  happen.&nbsp; There needs to be regulation at the pumps if only in the =
form of=20
  anti-gouging laws.&nbsp; At least then a ceiling would be set, but I =
would=20
  expect there to be a number of hoops and a system of checks and =
balances that=20
  would make it difficult for owners to raise their prices to that =
ceiling=20
  without concrete justification.&nbsp; Come on legislators, let's see =
what you=20
  can do about protecting the consumer, who are coincidentally, =
also&nbsp;your=20
  constituents.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 00:38:41 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:38:41 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Letter to the Editor
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I too am successful in my writing and having it printed.  More than 20 =
submissions to date that I can recall.  Depending on the topic, I've had =
some edited, others as long as this were left in its entirety.  I've =
learned 'how' to write for publishing, and I'm fairly confident this =
will make it to print.  If I lean too far to one side, they usually =
censor it in the form of non-publishing.  We shall see, as it should be =
a week or so (possibly less) that it should show up.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: William Noll=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Letter to the Editor


  As a successful Letter-to-the-Editor writer, I can tell you that =
unless you're doing a 'My Turn' segment, it's a bit too long. Newspapers =
like them short and sweet, usually with a rhetorical bent. If it appears =
as though you know more than the editor (or the writers) about the =
subject, they won't print it unless you are someone very important. And =
worse, a really well written letter is often 'edited' for 'length or =
clarity', often missing the writers original point. Think like an 8th =
grader, that's the reading level the paper is written for. And don't be =
technical, Journalism majors and Liberal Arts college grads have a real =
problem with big words!

  Bill

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Brian Casteel=20
    To: AZ Geocaching=20
    Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:15 PM
    Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Letter to the Editor


    Every once in awhile, something strikes a nerve and I have a moment =
of enlightened thought, which I put in the form of an e-mail and fire =
off to The Tribune to give a voice to my words.  Here's the latest =
incarnation of my thought process, so tell me what you think.

    =
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
------------

    So a pipeline ruptures and is shutdown for 'safety' concerns.  =
Meanwhile, this pipeline that supplies (latest random figure) 30% of the =
fuel to Phoenix creates a lack of fuel at a percentage of fuel pumps FAR =
exceeding the 30% deficit we are experiencing by this pipeline =
situation.  Just as we saw when the war with Iraq began, price gouging =
was realized at a number of stations around the Valley.  Channel 15 =
interviews a gas station owner live where he tries to push off the =
justification of his $4.00/gallon prices by criticizing the fact that =
the very station is interviewing him can charge what they feel for a =
commercial spot during any show on-air, and he should have the ability =
to charge whatever he wants for his fuel.  Another also shown on TV shut =
his station down amid safety concerns (should we be surprised?) for =
robbing customers with an astronomical $4.97/gallon.  Where is all this =
leading?  Price gouging, and the lack of laws against it.  Already this =
year, we've seen 2 situations which have spiked fuel prices to =
unnecessary highs, and unscrupulous business owners taking advantage of =
customers to line their pockets with a flood of ill-gotten gain.

    My question to the legislators of this state is this:  Which of you =
is going to step to the plate and propose legislation (and follow it to =
signing) that will outlaw such practices and instigate a more fair =
system of pricing for consumers on fuel?  I'm thinking that Jeff =
Groscost should lend his time to someone to assist in this endeavour.

    What has transpired this past week with all these fuel delivery =
problems is something that never should have been allowed to happen.  =
There needs to be regulation at the pumps if only in the form of =
anti-gouging laws.  At least then a ceiling would be set, but I would =
expect there to be a number of hoops and a system of checks and balances =
that would make it difficult for owners to raise their prices to that =
ceiling without concrete justification.  Come on legislators, let's see =
what you can do about protecting the consumer, who are coincidentally, =
also your constituents.

    Brian
    Team A.I.
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having it=20
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Depending on the topic, I've had some edited, others as long as this =
were left=20
in its entirety.&nbsp; I've learned 'how' to write for publishing, and =
I'm=20
fairly confident this will make it to print.&nbsp; If I lean too far to =
one=20
side, they usually censor it in the form of non-publishing.&nbsp; We =
shall see,=20
as it should be a week or so (possibly less) that it should show=20
up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dwnoll@cybertrails.com =
href=3D"mailto:wnoll@cybertrails.com">William=20
  Noll</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, 2003 =
5:27=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Letter to=20
  the Editor</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>As a successful Letter-to-the-Editor writer, I can =
tell you=20
  that unless you're doing a 'My Turn' segment, it's a bit too long. =
Newspapers=20
  like them short and sweet, usually with a rhetorical bent. If it =
appears as=20
  though you know more than the editor (or the writers) about the =
subject, they=20
  won't print it unless you are someone very important. And worse, a =
really well=20
  written letter is often 'edited' for 'length or clarity', often =
missing the=20
  writers original point. Think like an 8th grader, =
that's&nbsp;the&nbsp;reading=20
  level&nbsp;the paper is written for. And don't be technical, =
Journalism majors=20
  and Liberal Arts college grads have a real problem with big=20
words!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dbcasteel@cox.net href=3D"mailto:bcasteel@cox.net">Brian =
Casteel</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Daz-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">AZ =
Geocaching</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 19, =
2003 4:15=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
Letter to the=20
    Editor</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Every once in awhile, something =
strikes a nerve=20
    and I have a moment of enlightened thought, which I put in the form =
of an=20
    e-mail and fire off to The Tribune to give a voice to my =
words.&nbsp; Here's=20
    the latest incarnation of my thought process, so tell me what you=20
    think.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
    =
size=3D2>----------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------------</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So a pipeline ruptures and is =
shutdown for=20
    'safety' concerns.&nbsp; Meanwhile,&nbsp;this pipeline that supplies =
(latest=20
    random figure) 30% of the fuel to Phoenix creates a lack of fuel at =
a=20
    percentage of fuel pumps FAR exceeding the 30% deficit we are =
experiencing=20
    by this pipeline situation.&nbsp; Just as we saw when the war with =
Iraq=20
    began, price gouging was realized at a number of stations around the =

    Valley.&nbsp; Channel 15 interviews a gas station owner live where =
he tries=20
    to push off the justification of his $4.00/gallon prices by =
criticizing the=20
    fact that the very station&nbsp;is interviewing him can charge what =
they=20
    feel for a commercial spot during any show on-air, and he should =
have the=20
    ability to charge whatever he wants for his fuel.&nbsp; Another also =
shown=20
    on TV shut his station down amid safety concerns (should we be =
surprised?)=20
    for robbing customers with an astronomical $4.97/gallon.&nbsp; Where =
is all=20
    this leading?&nbsp; Price gouging, and the lack of laws against =
it.&nbsp;=20
    Already this year, we've seen 2 situations which have spiked fuel =
prices to=20
    unnecessary highs, and unscrupulous business owners taking advantage =
of=20
    customers to line their pockets with a flood of ill-gotten=20
gain.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My question to the legislators of =
this state is=20
    this:&nbsp; Which of you is going to step to the plate and propose=20
    legislation (and follow it to signing) that will outlaw such =
practices and=20
    instigate a more fair system of pricing for consumers on fuel?&nbsp; =
I'm=20
    thinking that Jeff Groscost should lend his time to someone to =
assist in=20
    this endeavour.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What has transpired this past week =
with all=20
    these fuel delivery problems is something that never should have =
been=20
    allowed to happen.&nbsp; There needs to be regulation at the pumps =
if only=20
    in the form of anti-gouging laws.&nbsp; At least then a ceiling =
would be=20
    set, but I would expect there to be a number of hoops and a system =
of checks=20
    and balances that would make it difficult for owners to raise their =
prices=20
    to that ceiling without concrete justification.&nbsp; Come on =
legislators,=20
    let's see what you can do about protecting the consumer, who are=20
    coincidentally, also&nbsp;your constituents.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 01:36:38 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Burkett)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:36:38 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash! and Star Trek
In-Reply-To: <20030819152113.28307.h011.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <IJEGJOIGCGEGCIDEFOGPGEINCJAA.wburkett@yahoo.com>

The Mighty RAV pulled an astounding 28.22 MPG on an all-day geocaching and
off-highway trip last Saturday.  And about 35 miles of that was at less than
10 MPH.



 -----Original Message-----
From: 	az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]  On Behalf Of Trisha
Sent:	Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:21 PM
To:	listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject:	Re: [Az-Geocaching] Crash! and Star Trek

Last year I downsized from a full-size Isuzu Trooper 4x4 (bad gas
mileage) to a Subaru Forester...all wheel drive, smaller, great gas
mileage. I miss the extra room but I sure like the dependability,
performance, handling, gas economy and safety.

And Jim, I love that episode of ST.... in fact, I thought the same
thing...a themed geocache of rocks! Geez, I gotta get some different
hobbies.

Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott


On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:38:07 -0700 (MST), Jim Scotti wrote:

>
> That's really the problem isn't it?  We all live in our western
> lifestyles
> where we live many miles from where we work.  It's one thing to hop
on
> a bike
> and go a mile or two to Safeway, but when you work 10 or more miles
> from
> home, you gotta burn the gas to get there.  Our cities have spread
out
> so
> that it is almost expected that you live in the 'burbs and work in
> town.
>
> While I love my SUV, I really think maybe my next car will be a
Toyota
> Prius
> or some other energy efficient car.  But these small cars like the
> Prius just
> don't carry families very well yet.  Putting even one teenager in the
> backseat of a small car like that is not very fun.  And then there's
> the
> cargo issue.  And I love taking those unimproved dirt roads out to
> geocaches
> too....
>
> Jim.
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Brian Casteel wrote:
>
> > Yep, I'm in total agreement with you.  If I need to go to the
> grocery/video
> > store, I'll hop on the mtn bike and cruise up there.  If need be,
> I'll ride
> > up to Checker for stuff for my truck later, even though trying to
> cross
> > Apache Trail/Ellsworth on bike is akin to vehicular suicide.  :)
> But I
> > wouldn't ride to work (32 miles one-way), I have to draw the line
> somewhere.
> >
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
> >
> >
>
> Jim Scotti
> Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, AZ 85721 USA
> http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 01:37:19 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Burkett)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:37:19 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Letter to the Editor
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Did anyone else notice that everything substantive the governor did today
regarding the so-called gas crisis involved asking another unit of
government to waive some rule or other.  The private sector is asking
government to solve this problem?  I don’t think so, Janet.



-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian
Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:15 PM
To: AZ Geocaching
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Letter to the Editor

Every once in awhile, something strikes a nerve and I have a moment of
enlightened thought, which I put in the form of an e-mail and fire off to
The Tribune to give a voice to my words.  Here's the latest incarnation of
my thought process, so tell me what you think.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------

So a pipeline ruptures and is shutdown for 'safety' concerns.  Meanwhile,
this pipeline that supplies (latest random figure) 30% of the fuel to
Phoenix creates a lack of fuel at a percentage of fuel pumps FAR exceeding
the 30% deficit we are experiencing by this pipeline situation.  Just as we
saw when the war with Iraq began, price gouging was realized at a number of
stations around the Valley.  Channel 15 interviews a gas station owner live
where he tries to push off the justification of his $4.00/gallon prices by
criticizing the fact that the very station is interviewing him can charge
what they feel for a commercial spot during any show on-air, and he should
have the ability to charge whatever he wants for his fuel.  Another also
shown on TV shut his station down amid safety concerns (should we be
surprised?) for robbing customers with an astronomical $4.97/gallon.  Where
is all this leading?  Price gouging, and the lack of laws against it.
Already this year, we've seen 2 situations which have spiked fuel prices to
unnecessary highs, and unscrupulous business owners taking advantage of
customers to line their pockets with a flood of ill-gotten gain.

My question to the legislators of this state is this:  Which of you is going
to step to the plate and propose legislation (and follow it to signing) that
will outlaw such practices and instigate a more fair system of pricing for
consumers on fuel?  I'm thinking that Jeff Groscost should lend his time to
someone to assist in this endeavour.

What has transpired this past week with all these fuel delivery problems is
something that never should have been allowed to happen.  There needs to be
regulation at the pumps if only in the form of anti-gouging laws.  At least
then a ceiling would be set, but I would expect there to be a number of
hoops and a system of checks and balances that would make it difficult for
owners to raise their prices to that ceiling without concrete justification.
Come on legislators, let's see what you can do about protecting the
consumer, who are coincidentally, also your constituents.

Brian
Team A.I.

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d anyone
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the
so-called gas crisis involved asking another unit of government to waive =
some
rule or other.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The =
private sector
is asking government to solve this problem?<span style=3D"mso-spacerun:
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Janet.</span></font></span><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brian Casteel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 19, =
2003
4:15 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> AZ Geocaching<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Az-Geocaching] =
Letter to
the Editor</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Every once in awhile, something =
strikes a
nerve and I have a moment of enlightened thought, which I put in the =
form of an
e-mail and fire off to The Tribune to give a voice to my words.&nbsp; =
Here's
the latest incarnation of my thought process, so tell me what you =
think.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>So a pipeline ruptures and is =
shutdown
for 'safety' concerns.&nbsp; Meanwhile,&nbsp;this pipeline that supplies
(latest random figure) 30% of the fuel to Phoenix creates a lack of fuel =
at a
percentage of fuel pumps FAR exceeding the 30% deficit we are =
experiencing by
this pipeline situation.&nbsp; Just as we saw when the war with Iraq =
began,
price gouging was realized at a number of stations around the =
Valley.&nbsp;
Channel 15 interviews a gas station owner live where he tries to push =
off the
justification of his $4.00/gallon prices by criticizing the fact that =
the very
station&nbsp;is interviewing him can charge what they feel for a =
commercial spot
during any show on-air, and he should have the ability to charge =
whatever he
wants for his fuel.&nbsp; Another also shown on TV shut his station down =
amid
safety concerns (should we be surprised?) for robbing customers with an
astronomical $4.97/gallon.&nbsp; Where is all this leading?&nbsp; Price
gouging, and the lack of laws against it.&nbsp; Already this year, we've =
seen 2
situations which have spiked fuel prices to unnecessary highs, and =
unscrupulous
business owners taking advantage of customers to line their pockets with =
a
flood of ill-gotten gain.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>My question to the legislators of =
this
state is this:&nbsp; Which of you is going to step to the plate and =
propose
legislation (and follow it to signing) that will outlaw such practices =
and
instigate a more fair system of pricing for consumers on fuel?&nbsp; I'm
thinking that Jeff Groscost should lend his time to someone to assist in =
this
endeavour.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>What has transpired this past week =
with
all these fuel delivery problems is something that never should have =
been
allowed to happen.&nbsp; There needs to be regulation at the pumps if =
only in
the form of anti-gouging laws.&nbsp; At least then a ceiling would be =
set, but
I would expect there to be a number of hoops and a system of checks and
balances that would make it difficult for owners to raise their prices =
to that
ceiling without concrete justification.&nbsp; Come on legislators, let's =
see
what you can do about protecting the consumer, who are coincidentally,
also&nbsp;your constituents.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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Roman"><span
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/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Brian</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 18 20:37:46 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Randy Kinkel)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:37:46 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] No gas to geocache!
References: <20030818201348.9353.qmail@web14806.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3F41391A.E2731DB8@riomail.maricopa.edu>

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It's pretty bad out there... on my way to work this morning, I passed
six stations on Broadway in Tempe, and only one had gas. It was one pump
only, with a limit.  I didn't see what the price was.  I'm one of the
people who didn't panic and fill up, and now I'm in trouble!  I only
have a quarter tank left!  looks like I'll be taking the bus next week.

"Mozartman"


Gale Draper wrote:

> The news says it will be about 2 weeks before this is resolved and
> supplies return to normal. I can understand if a pipeline is broken,
> but it is fixed and waiting for the feds to approve it. The approval
> process could take 2 weeks. The governor is having a news/press
> conference at 3 pm. She's back in the valley. Personally I don't think
> she realizes how bad it is. Mike called and said the one gas station
> he saw with gas has 4 Chandler cops directing traffic and keeping
> order. There were at least 50 cars in a long line down the road. I
> spent some time calling our politicians to let them know (politely)
> that I am concerned. Hopefully it will spur the governor/feds to
> correct this as soon as possible. Maybe now is a good time to work on
> the puzzle part of puzzle caches.
> BBUDCAM@aol.com wrote:
>
>      Budcam & Mary cancelled an Elk scouting trip to unit 10
>      (Williams to Seligman, I-40 to the canyon) because of the
>      gas SHORTAGE. We also skipped out on caching. This was the
>      first weekend in a long time we didnt even look for one.
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It's pretty bad out there... on my way to work this morning, I passed six
stations on Broadway in Tempe, and only one had gas. It was one pump only,
with a limit.&nbsp; I didn't see what the price was.&nbsp; I'm one of the
people who didn't panic and fill up, and now I'm in trouble!&nbsp; I only
have a quarter tank left!&nbsp; looks like I'll be taking the bus next
week.
<p>"Mozartman"
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Gale Draper wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>The news says it will be about 2 weeks before this
is resolved and supplies return to normal. I can understand if a pipeline
is broken, but it is fixed and waiting for the feds to approve it. The
approval process could take 2 weeks.&nbsp;The governor is having a news/press
conference at 3 pm. She's back in the valley. Personally I don't think
she realizes how bad it is. Mike called and said the one gas station he
saw with gas has 4 Chandler cops directing traffic and keeping order. There
were at least 50 cars in a long line down the road. I spent some time calling
our politicians to let them know (politely) that I am concerned. Hopefully
it will spur the governor/feds to correct this as soon as possible.&nbsp;Maybe
now is a good time to work on the puzzle part of puzzle caches.&nbsp;
<br><b><i>BBUDCAM@aol.com</i></b> wrote:
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">Budcam
&amp; Mary cancelled an Elk scouting trip to unit 10 (Williams to Seligman,
I-40 to the canyon) because of the gas SHORTAGE. We also skipped out on
caching. This was the first weekend in a long time we didnt even look for
one.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 14:24:32 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:24:32 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re:No gas to geocache!
Message-ID: <20030819142429.BBBJ20997.fed1mtao07.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

I had a little adventure of my own this morning at work.  I left for break with one of the ladies I work with to help her, since her husband didn't want to replace the gas he used in her car.  She was running pretty low, so I told her I would follow her to one of the stations near by that we were told my co-workers had gas.  On the way we passed an Exxon that had a really long line.  I thought I'd try my luck at a station further that the friend at work told us about.  When we got there we found it dry.  As we headed bacy to the Exxon, by the time we back to it, it was empty, and everyone had cleared out.  We got near the intersection of Alma School and Warner, and I told her to park and I would scout around for her, since I had a half a tank.  I drove up a ways and back with no luck.  I came back to tell her to go back to work, and I would keep looking.  As we got to the intersection of Alma School and Warner, a truck had just arrived at the Texaco and I managed to get the second slot with her in a close third in line.  If necessary, I would have moved out of the way for her, but it turns out that the line moved so fast that we were both at pumps at the same time.

While we were waiting for the truck to finish... the attendant wouldn't release the pumps until the truck finished unloading... I called work and passed the word that there was gas at the station up the road.

I started pumping my gas around 3:15AM.  After work, I drove by to see a really long line... this was at 5:15AM.

(And just in case you are wondering, I work at the breeding grounds for the Yellow Jeeps.)


And for a Tip Of The Day... from my grandfather who owned a gas distributorship.

Don't pump your gas at the fastest setting.  Set the handle holder to the slowest setting.  You'll 'fit' more gas in your tank.  

Good luck

Jake - Team A.I.


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 05:40:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RopingThe Wind)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:40:02 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
Message-ID: <BAY8-F74qyhO053eV4o0000fa61@hotmail.com>

I have a friend who rides his bicycle to work every day (Mon-Fri). He lives 
in Chandler Heights (& Power Rd) and works at Motorola near the airport in 
Phoenix. 70 miles round trip. He is in his late 40's and is a diabetic. Of 
course, he is an ultra endurance cyclist too.  ;)

Scott
Team Ropingthewind

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 19 04:09:53 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (GeoCacheCards.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:09:53 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] NO GAS
References: <000e01c365ff$6534a280$38fb6844@jjvy4ph6wukvwf>
Message-ID: <006501c36607$be4e1ba0$77aa6d44@ph.cox.net>

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I drove around today until I found a fuel tanker.  I could tell it was =
full because it was riding low on the axels.  It pulled into the Circle =
K on Baseline (and Val Vista, I believe...) and I was right on his =
heels.  There were already folks waiting (must have had a tip like =
Sixpack did!) we had to wait about 45 minutes for the tanker to do his =
business, but then we were good to go.  By the time I left, there were =
cars lining up down Val Vista as far as I could see...  What a mess huh? =
 Well, at least we have our electricity!  =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: SIXPACK=20
  To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:10 PM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] NO GAS


  Most stations get their fuel in the wee hours of the morning,,,Here's =
what I did...I called a Diamod Shamrock and asked for the ETA of the =
next delivery..they were eager to share the info and then I called back =
at the time they gace me and theu had fuel!!..I only waited in line for =
10 minutes (at 4:30 am)
              Good luck!


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href=3D"mailto:pfrazier2@cox.net">SIXPACK</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Daz-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching@lis=
tserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 18, 2003 =
8:10=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] NO =
GAS</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most stations get their fuel in the =
wee hours of=20
  the morning,,,Here's what I did...I called a Diamod Shamrock and asked =
for the=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 06:05:01 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:05:01 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!
References: <BAY8-F74qyhO053eV4o0000fa61@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <01b601c366e0$fe41abd0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

That's pretty amazing.  I, for one, don't have a death wish, and couldn't
see riding a bike (in my case, a mtn bike) 32 miles to 21st Ave/Encanto, let
alone in this heat.  :)

Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RopingThe Wind" <arizcowboy@hotmail.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Crash!


> I have a friend who rides his bicycle to work every day (Mon-Fri). He
lives
> in Chandler Heights (& Power Rd) and works at Motorola near the airport in
> Phoenix. 70 miles round trip. He is in his late 40's and is a diabetic. Of
> course, he is an ultra endurance cyclist too.  ;)
>
> Scott
> Team Ropingthewind
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 06:09:24 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:09:24 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] NO GAS
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You had to wait until it was finished pumping?  When I stopped at an =
Am/Pm to get gas right after the truck pulled up, I could pump =
immediately, and this was at 1:15am after getting home from work/gym.  I =
have a few days before I'll need another tank (3 if I stretch it), and =
I'll just hit another station then like I did before and shouldn't have =
an issue.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: GeoCacheCards.com=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] NO GAS


  I drove around today until I found a fuel tanker.  I could tell it was =
full because it was riding low on the axels.  It pulled into the Circle =
K on Baseline (and Val Vista, I believe...) and I was right on his =
heels.  There were already folks waiting (must have had a tip like =
Sixpack did!) we had to wait about 45 minutes for the tanker to do his =
business, but then we were good to go.  By the time I left, there were =
cars lining up down Val Vista as far as I could see...  What a mess huh? =
 Well, at least we have our electricity!  =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: SIXPACK=20
    To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:10 PM
    Subject: [Az-Geocaching] NO GAS


    Most stations get their fuel in the wee hours of the =
morning,,,Here's what I did...I called a Diamod Shamrock and asked for =
the ETA of the next delivery..they were eager to share the info and then =
I called back at the time they gace me and theu had fuel!!..I only =
waited in line for 10 minutes (at 4:30 am)
                Good luck!

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dsales@geocachecards.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:sales@geocachecards.com">GeoCacheCards.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] NO =
GAS</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I drove around today until I found a =
fuel=20
  tanker.&nbsp; I could tell it was full because it was riding low on =
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  go.&nbsp; By the time I left, there were cars lining up down Val Vista =
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    <A title=3Dpfrazier2@cox.net =
href=3D"mailto:pfrazier2@cox.net">SIXPACK</A>=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Daz-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching@lis=
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    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 18, 2003 =
8:10=20
    PM</DIV>
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GAS</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most stations get their fuel in the =
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asked=20
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waited in=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 06:25:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:25:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] NO GAS
In-Reply-To: <006501c36607$be4e1ba0$77aa6d44@ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20030820062502.88410.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com>

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I thought I'd share a funny story.
 
Mike needed to fill his truck with gas this morning. He knew a Chevron near us would have gas this morning so off he went about an hour befoe they said they'd have gas. There was a line already. The gas station attendent repeatedly announced on the PA system that there was a $20 limit. Finally one SUV pulled up and Mike heard the PA harshly announce "The grey SUV at Pump 7 you are going over the $20 limit. Stop pumping now."
 
Nothing like a little public humiliation first thing in the morning. The SUV owner was lucky he wasn't lynched by the crowd.
 
It looks like the shortage may ease by Monday at the latest if all goes right and there are no more breaks in the line. Otherwise, maybe event carpool marathon caching trips are in order.



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>I thought I'd share a funny story.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Mike needed to fill his truck with gas this morning. He knew a Chevron near us would have gas this morning so off he went about an hour befoe they said they'd have gas. There was a line already. The gas station attendent repeatedly&nbsp;announced on the PA system that there was a $20 limit. Finally one SUV pulled up and Mike heard the PA harshly announce "The grey SUV at Pump 7 you are going over the $20 limit. Stop pumping now."</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nothing like a little public humiliation first thing in the morning.&nbsp;The SUV owner was&nbsp;lucky he wasn't lynched by the crowd.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It looks like the shortage may ease by Monday at the latest if all goes right and there are no more breaks in the line. Otherwise, maybe event carpool marathon caching trips are in order.<BR></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 07:59:24 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another cache pirate may go national
Message-ID: <20030820075924.98537.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com>

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This link to the geocaching forums 
 
http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4016058331&m=26360987&r=20960987#20960987 
 
talks about a cache pirate in the Washington area. He has set up a website and plans to have official plunder hunts of geocaching.com caches. He is encouraging people to plunder any cache he chooses for his prizes. Hopefully this will fade before it starts, but one never knows.
 
Word of warning: If you read the "ship logs" on his website DO NOT click on the website with "goat" in the domain name. That cretin has spammed other sites I've gone to with filthy pictures. 


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<DIV>This link to the geocaching forums </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&amp;s=5726007311&amp;f=4016058331&amp;m=26360987&amp;r=20960987#20960987">http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&amp;s=5726007311&amp;f=4016058331&amp;m=26360987&amp;r=20960987#20960987</A>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>talks about a cache pirate in the Washington area. He has set up a website and plans to have official plunder hunts of geocaching.com caches. He is encouraging people to plunder any cache he chooses for his prizes. Hopefully this will fade before it starts, but one never knows.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Word of warning: If you read the "ship logs" on his website DO NOT click on the website with "goat" in the domain name. That&nbsp;cretin has spammed other sites I've gone to with filthy pictures. </DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 08:26:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:26:56 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another cache pirate may go national
References: <20030820075924.98537.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com>
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I'm guessing it's the infamous www.goatse.cx site.  If someone's jerk =
enough to deserve the very worst, they get that link.  :)  Of course, it =
can easily be disguised to look NOT like that link at all.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gale Draper=20
  To: list=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:59 AM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another cache pirate may go national


  This link to the geocaching forums=20

  =
http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D4016058331=
&m=3D26360987&r=3D20960987#20960987=20

  talks about a cache pirate in the Washington area. He has set up a =
website and plans to have official plunder hunts of geocaching.com =
caches. He is encouraging people to plunder any cache he chooses for his =
prizes. Hopefully this will fade before it starts, but one never knows.

  Word of warning: If you read the "ship logs" on his website DO NOT =
click on the website with "goat" in the domain name. That cretin has =
spammed other sites I've gone to with filthy pictures.=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dsonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com">Gale Draper</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 20, =
2003 12:59=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
Another cache=20
  pirate may go national</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>This link to the geocaching forums </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&am=
p;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D26360987&amp;r=3D20960987#20960987">http://ubbx.=
groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&amp;f=3D4016058331&amp=
;m=3D26360987&amp;r=3D20960987#20960987</A>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>talks about a cache pirate in the Washington area. He has set up =
a=20
  website and plans to have official plunder hunts of geocaching.com =
caches. He=20
  is encouraging people to plunder any cache he chooses for his prizes.=20
  Hopefully this will fade before it starts, but one never knows.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Word of warning: If you read the "ship logs" on his website DO =
NOT click=20
  on the website with "goat" in the domain name. That&nbsp;cretin has =
spammed=20
  other sites I've gone to with filthy pictures. </DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 14:45:15 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Akerman)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital cameras
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I have more than a half a tank of gas left in my SUV, but I decided to ride my bike to work today to save the fuel for the weekend.  I have enough fuel to drive to the Prescott area, so I intend to go geocaching in the Prescott area on Saturday and will fill up with fuel in Prescott Valley or Prescott.  A friend who lives in the Prescott area reports that as of today, there is fuel at all the stations near his home and there are no lines.  He is not a geocacher, so I would also like to request replies on the fuel situation in Prescott from Prescottians like Lincoln and Trisha.
 
I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop with wireless Internet access.  Therefore, I can bring this computer with me while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, and enter my cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.  I would also like to use my computer for downloading digital photos.  Does anyone have any recommendations about the best laptop computer to buy?  What requirements, such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive space, should I get?
 
Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.  The one I have is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first place.  I am thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't want to spend a lot of money.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a high-quality, affordable digital camera?
 
Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)

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<DIV>I have more than a half a tank of gas left in my SUV, but&nbsp;I decided to ride my bike to work today to save the fuel for the weekend.&nbsp; I have enough fuel to drive to the Prescott area, so I intend to go geocaching in the Prescott area on Saturday and will fill up with fuel in Prescott Valley or Prescott.&nbsp; A friend who lives in the Prescott area reports that as of today, there is fuel at all the stations near his home and there are no lines.&nbsp; He is not a geocacher, so I would also like to request replies on the fuel situation in Prescott from Prescottians like Lincoln and Trisha.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop with wireless Internet access.&nbsp; Therefore, I can bring this computer with me while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, and enter my cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.&nbsp; I would also like to use my computer for downloading digital photos.&nbsp; Does anyone have any recommendations&nbsp;about the best laptop computer to buy?&nbsp; What requirements, such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive space, should I get?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.&nbsp; The one I have is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first place.&nbsp; I am thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't want to spend a lot of money.&nbsp; Does anyone have a recommendation for a high-quality, affordable digital camera?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Ken Akerman</STRONG> (a.k.a. <STRONG><EM>Highpointer</EM></STRONG>)</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 15:02:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (shan in az)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:02:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] recommendation: digital camera
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Message-ID: <20030820150204.6550.qmail@web20507.mail.yahoo.com>

As for the camera: 
I recently bought a Sony CyberShot DSC-P52 and I find
that it takes really great pictures and is easy to lug
around.  I have a couple of memory sticks for mine,
but I've never run out of space.  It shoots mpegs too,
which is nice, if you're into that sort of thing.  As
for "affordable", well, I suppose that depends on what
you mean by the word.  I got mine for just under $300.
 I hope this helps.  

shan


> don't want to spend a lot of money.  Does anyone
> have a recommendation for a high-quality, affordable
> digital camera?


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 15:19:52 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:19:52 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital cameras
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My opinion is that unless you are creating 3D graphics, playing the latest
3D games or editing movies, or something like that, then any modern laptop
will probably be fine.

For wireless, I originally bought a Linkysys wireless router (the slower
11Mbps) along with a linksys PCMCIA card (it was a bundle in one box) and it
was awful. Constantly dropping connections, missing data. I returned it and
bought a Netgear wireless router and PCMCIA card and it works like a dream!

Andy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Ken
Akerman
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:45 AM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop
computers and digital cameras


  I have more than a half a tank of gas left in my SUV, but I decided to
ride my bike to work today to save the fuel for the weekend.  I have enough
fuel to drive to the Prescott area, so I intend to go geocaching in the
Prescott area on Saturday and will fill up with fuel in Prescott Valley or
Prescott.  A friend who lives in the Prescott area reports that as of today,
there is fuel at all the stations near his home and there are no lines.  He
is not a geocacher, so I would also like to request replies on the fuel
situation in Prescott from Prescottians like Lincoln and Trisha.

  I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop with
wireless Internet access.  Therefore, I can bring this computer with me
while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, and enter my
cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.  I would also like to
use my computer for downloading digital photos.  Does anyone have any
recommendations about the best laptop computer to buy?  What requirements,
such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive space, should I get?

  Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.  The one I have
is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first place.  I am
thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't want to spend a lot
of money.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a high-quality, affordable
digital camera?

  Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)

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Trisha.</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 15:21:36 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:21:36 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital cameras
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Oh, I should add to that that it is best to buy the wireless router and
PCMCIA card from the same manufacturer. Otherwise if you have a problem, the
PCMCIA card manufacturer might blame the wireless router and vice versa.

Andy

--
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aayre@esacademy.com  www.esacademy.com
PGP encrypted Email accepted

  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Ken
Akerman
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:45 AM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop
computers and digital cameras


  I have more than a half a tank of gas left in my SUV, but I decided to
ride my bike to work today to save the fuel for the weekend.  I have enough
fuel to drive to the Prescott area, so I intend to go geocaching in the
Prescott area on Saturday and will fill up with fuel in Prescott Valley or
Prescott.  A friend who lives in the Prescott area reports that as of today,
there is fuel at all the stations near his home and there are no lines.  He
is not a geocacher, so I would also like to request replies on the fuel
situation in Prescott from Prescottians like Lincoln and Trisha.

  I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop with
wireless Internet access.  Therefore, I can bring this computer with me
while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, and enter my
cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.  I would also like to
use my computer for downloading digital photos.  Does anyone have any
recommendations about the best laptop computer to buy?  What requirements,
such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive space, should I get?

  Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.  The one I have
is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first place.  I am
thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't want to spend a lot
of money.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a high-quality, affordable
digital camera?

  Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)

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Trisha.</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 15:40:50 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:40:50 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital cameras
References: <20030820144515.20292.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
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With notebook computers, get the fastest P4 processor you can afford, =
512 megs RAM, and a CDRW/DVD.  Bigger is better in hard drives, so look =
for 40 gig minimum.  Keep in mind that most of the wireless Internet =
companies will start charging you a per minute charge as soon as you =
roam to analog, so check the plan carefully.

With digital cameras, the two main factors are megapixals and the lens.  =
The more megapixals the better the pictures will be and the more you can =
blow them up.  I would suggest at least 4 megapixals.  Camera salesmen =
will talk about optical zoom and digital zoom.  Forget digital zoom, =
because you can do the same thing later on the computer.  Look at =
optical zoom only.  Also, in my experience, the camera companies do =
better lenses than the electronic companies now looking for a piece of =
the digital camera market.  Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Minolta, and some =
others have been making cameras for a long time.  You won't go wrong if =
you stick with them.  By the way, I teach digital photography (and =
computer science) at the college here, so I have experience with a lot =
of different cameras.  I also teach astronomy, so if you decide you want =
to hook up your digital camera to a telescope, let me know.

Bill in Willcox

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ken Akerman=20

  I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop with =
wireless Internet access.  Therefore, I can bring this computer with me =
while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, and enter =
my cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.  I would also =
like to use my computer for downloading digital photos.  Does anyone =
have any recommendations about the best laptop computer to buy?  What =
requirements, such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive space, =
should I get?

  Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.  The one I =
have is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first place.  =
I am thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't want to =
spend a lot of money.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a =
high-quality, affordable digital camera?
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two main=20
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better the=20
pictures will be and the more you can blow them up.&nbsp; I would =
suggest at=20
least 4 megapixals.&nbsp; Camera salesmen will talk about optical zoom =
and=20
digital zoom.&nbsp; Forget digital zoom, because you can do the same =
thing later=20
on the computer.&nbsp; Look at optical zoom only.&nbsp; Also, in my =
experience,=20
the camera companies do better lenses than the electronic companies now =
looking=20
for a piece of the digital camera market.&nbsp; Canon, Nikon, Olympus, =
Minolta,=20
and some others have been making cameras for a long time.&nbsp; You =
won't go=20
wrong if you stick with them.&nbsp; By the way, I teach digital =
photography (and=20
computer science) at the college here, so I have experience with a lot =
of=20
different cameras.&nbsp; I also teach astronomy, so if you decide you =
want to=20
hook up your digital camera to a telescope, let me know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Bill in =
Willcox</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dken@highpointer.com href=3D"mailto:ken@highpointer.com">Ken =
Akerman</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop =
with=20
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with me=20
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enter my=20
  cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.&nbsp; I would =
also like=20
  to use my computer for downloading digital photos.&nbsp; Does anyone =
have any=20
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  requirements, such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive space, =
should I=20
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.&nbsp; =
The one I=20
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place.&nbsp;=20
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spend a=20
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 15:58:27 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Henson)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:58:27 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital cameras
In-Reply-To: <20030820144515.20292.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <231063BD-D327-11D7-ADD6-000393A13A32@cableone.net>

>  A friend who lives in the Prescott area reports that as of today, 
> there is fuel at all the stations near his home and there are no 
> lines.  He is not a geocacher, so I would also like to request replies 
> on the fuel situation in Prescott from Prescottians like Lincoln and 
> Trisha.


Prices continue to climb, but there are no lines....except at Costco.

~ Ken


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 16:42:27 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jim Scotti)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:42:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] recommendations for laptop computers and digital
 cameras
In-Reply-To: <20030820144515.20292.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0308200917010.27690-100000@arjuna.lpl.arizona.edu>

Hey Ken,
    I have a Fuji FinePix 2650 that I love.  It takes excellent pictures and
is small enough to carry easily.  It has 2 megapixels resolution.  It's not
great for low light level pictures, but does most of what I need well.  The
camera I really have my eyes on is the Canon 1DS which uses the standard EOS
lenses and has a detector that is the same size as a 35mm frame.  It's got 11
megapixels.  Unfortunately, it costs about $8000 - without any lenses!  Ok,
at least I can dream right?  The Canon 10D is my fallback camera when I
strike the jackpot - it costs less than $1500.....  I guess I may be dreaming
for a long time.  BTW, you can find the FinePix 2650 for about $200 or maybe
a little less if you shop around or look on the internet.  I've also used a
Fuji FinePix S602Zoom which is a great camera for about $600 that has a lot
of manual controls on it as well as automatic functions.  I'd check out one
of the digital camera webpages and look at the reviews you'll find there.  
The one I saw a couple days ago allowed you to sort by price or by company
and probably a few other ways.  (I think I found that particular review page
starting at the default www.netscape.com webpage....).

Good luck!

Jim.

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Ken Akerman wrote:

>  Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.  The one I have
> is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first place.  I am
> thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't want to spend a
> lot of money.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a high-quality,
> affordable digital camera?
>  
> Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)
> 

Jim Scotti
Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721 USA                 http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/    


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 17:29:32 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:29:32 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] recommendations for laptop computers and digital cameras
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0308200917010.27690-100000@arjuna.lpl.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <02fc01c36740$a0546840$319c4094@BILLPC>

Several of my students have used Fuji cameras, and they were excellent.  You can see some of
their photos at:

http://www.oursites.com/willard/
or
http://www.oursites.com/nick/

Both of these students used Fuji cameras.

The Canon G3 is also a sweet camera in the $800 to $900 range.

Bill in Willcox

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Scotti" <jscotti@pirlserver.lpl.Arizona.EDU>

> Hey Ken,
>     I have a Fuji FinePix 2650 that I love.  It takes excellent pictures and
> is small enough to carry easily.  It has 2 megapixels resolution.  It's not
> great for low light level pictures, but does most of what I need well.  The
> camera I really have my eyes on is the Canon 1DS which uses the standard EOS
> lenses and has a detector that is the same size as a 35mm frame.  It's got 11
> megapixels.  Unfortunately, it costs about $8000 - without any lenses!  Ok,
> at least I can dream right?  The Canon 10D is my fallback camera when I
> strike the jackpot - it costs less than $1500.....  I guess I may be dreaming
> for a long time.  BTW, you can find the FinePix 2650 for about $200 or maybe
> a little less if you shop around or look on the internet.  I've also used a
> Fuji FinePix S602Zoom which is a great camera for about $600 that has a lot
> of manual controls on it as well as automatic functions.



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 17:52:29 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian LaFrance)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:52:29 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital cameras
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Be careful getting a laptop with a fast processor that is not built on the
Centrino technology.  I have been reading lately that many new laptops with
processors over 1.0 GHz get extremely hot.  There have even been several
reports of fires caused by overheating processors.  My laptop has a 1.0 GHz
processor in it and it usually gets too hot to sit on my lap after a couple
of hours of being on.  It has to fans to vent the heat, but they just cannot
keep up with the heat.  You also want to check on how loud the vent fans are
on any notebook you look at.  There's nothing like sitting around trying to
work in silence with a screaming fan in front of you.

As far as digital cameras go, I am on my second Kodak digital and have had
no problems with either.  I have several friends that are also very
satisfied with their Kodak cameras.  As Bill states, the optical zoom and
resolution are what you want to focus on.  Several cameras promote special
features that you'll never use.  Another item that you want to look into is
the type of media the photos are saved on.  Compact Flash seems to be the
least expensive right now and is very dependable.  IMHO, stay away from Sony
products that use Memory Stik media.  These Memory Stiks are only compatible
with Sony devices.  All of my electronic devices take compact flash cards,
so I can swap them across units easily.  Once you decide on a model, shop
around.  Ebay is a good place to look for digital cameras.  Just make sure
that the camera has a US warranty.  Alot of camera shops out of NY that sell
dirt cheap cameras are selling imports that are not warranted.

-Brian
  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Bill
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:41 AM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for
laptop computers and digital cameras


  With notebook computers, get the fastest P4 processor you can afford, 512
megs RAM, and a CDRW/DVD.  Bigger is better in hard drives, so look for 40
gig minimum.  Keep in mind that most of the wireless Internet companies will
start charging you a per minute charge as soon as you roam to analog, so
check the plan carefully.

  With digital cameras, the two main factors are megapixals and the lens.
The more megapixals the better the pictures will be and the more you can
blow them up.  I would suggest at least 4 megapixals.  Camera salesmen will
talk about optical zoom and digital zoom.  Forget digital zoom, because you
can do the same thing later on the computer.  Look at optical zoom only.
Also, in my experience, the camera companies do better lenses than the
electronic companies now looking for a piece of the digital camera market.
Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Minolta, and some others have been making cameras for
a long time.  You won't go wrong if you stick with them.  By the way, I
teach digital photography (and computer science) at the college here, so I
have experience with a lot of different cameras.  I also teach astronomy, so
if you decide you want to hook up your digital camera to a telescope, let me
know.

  Bill in Willcox

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Ken Akerman

    I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop with
wireless Internet access.  Therefore, I can bring this computer with me
while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, and enter my
cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.  I would also like to
use my computer for downloading digital photos.  Does anyone have any
recommendations about the best laptop computer to buy?  What requirements,
such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive space, should I get?

    Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.  The one I have
is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first place.  I am
thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't want to spend a lot
of money.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a high-quality, affordable
digital camera?

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around=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D884283517-20082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>As far=20
as digital cameras go, I am on my second Kodak digital and have had no =
problems=20
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satisfied with=20
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type of=20
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expensive right now and is very dependable.&nbsp; IMHO, stay away from =
Sony=20
products that use Memory Stik media.&nbsp; These Memory Stiks are only=20
compatible with Sony devices.&nbsp; All of my electronic devices take =
compact=20
flash cards, so I can swap them across units easily.&nbsp; Once you =
decide on a=20
model, shop around.&nbsp; Ebay is a good place to look for digital=20
cameras.&nbsp; Just make sure that the camera has a US warranty.&nbsp; =
Alot of=20
camera shops out of NY that sell dirt cheap cameras are selling imports =
that are=20
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size=3D2>-Brian</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Bill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:41 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Gasoline in=20
  Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital=20
  cameras<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>With notebook =
computers, get the=20
  fastest P4 processor you can afford, 512 megs RAM, and a =
CDRW/DVD.&nbsp;=20
  Bigger is better in hard drives, so look for 40 gig minimum.&nbsp; =
Keep in=20
  mind that most of the wireless Internet companies will start charging =
you a=20
  per minute charge as soon as you roam to analog, so check the plan=20
  carefully.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>With digital cameras, =
the two main=20
  factors are megapixals and the lens.&nbsp; The more megapixals the =
better the=20
  pictures will be and the more you can blow them up.&nbsp; I would =
suggest at=20
  least 4 megapixals.&nbsp; Camera salesmen will talk about optical zoom =
and=20
  digital zoom.&nbsp; Forget digital zoom, because you can do the same =
thing=20
  later on the computer.&nbsp; Look at optical zoom only.&nbsp; Also, in =
my=20
  experience, the camera companies do better lenses than the electronic=20
  companies now looking for a piece of the digital camera market.&nbsp; =
Canon,=20
  Nikon, Olympus, Minolta, and some others have been making cameras for =
a long=20
  time.&nbsp; You won't go wrong if you stick with them.&nbsp; By the =
way, I=20
  teach digital photography (and computer science) at the college here, =
so I=20
  have experience with a lot of different cameras.&nbsp; I also teach =
astronomy,=20
  so if you decide you want to hook up your digital camera to a =
telescope, let=20
  me know.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Bill in =
Willcox</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dken@highpointer.com =
href=3D"mailto:ken@highpointer.com">Ken=20
    Akerman</A> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a =
laptop with=20
    wireless Internet access.&nbsp; Therefore, I can bring this computer =
with me=20
    while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, and =
enter my=20
    cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.&nbsp; I would =
also=20
    like to use my computer for downloading digital photos.&nbsp; Does =
anyone=20
    have any recommendations&nbsp;about the best laptop computer to =
buy?&nbsp;=20
    What requirements, such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive =
space,=20
    should I get?</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.&nbsp; =
The one=20
    I have is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first=20
    place.&nbsp; I am thinking of upgrading to something better, but I =
don't=20
    want to spend a lot of money.&nbsp; Does anyone have a =
recommendation for a=20
    high-quality, affordable digital=20
camera?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 18:39:33 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:39:33 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital cameras
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ah yes.  The infamous grey market cameras.

Brian
Team A.I.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Brian LaFrance=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:52 AM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for =
laptop computers and digital cameras


  Be careful getting a laptop with a fast processor that is not built on =
the Centrino technology.  I have been reading lately that many new =
laptops with processors over 1.0 GHz get extremely hot.  There have even =
been several reports of fires caused by overheating processors.  My =
laptop has a 1.0 GHz processor in it and it usually gets too hot to sit =
on my lap after a couple of hours of being on.  It has to fans to vent =
the heat, but they just cannot keep up with the heat.  You also want to =
check on how loud the vent fans are on any notebook you look at.  =
There's nothing like sitting around trying to work in silence with a =
screaming fan in front of you. =20

  As far as digital cameras go, I am on my second Kodak digital and have =
had no problems with either.  I have several friends that are also very =
satisfied with their Kodak cameras.  As Bill states, the optical zoom =
and resolution are what you want to focus on.  Several cameras promote =
special features that you'll never use.  Another item that you want to =
look into is the type of media the photos are saved on.  Compact Flash =
seems to be the least expensive right now and is very dependable.  IMHO, =
stay away from Sony products that use Memory Stik media.  These Memory =
Stiks are only compatible with Sony devices.  All of my electronic =
devices take compact flash cards, so I can swap them across units =
easily.  Once you decide on a model, shop around.  Ebay is a good place =
to look for digital cameras.  Just make sure that the camera has a US =
warranty.  Alot of camera shops out of NY that sell dirt cheap cameras =
are selling imports that are not warranted. =20

  -Brian
    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Bill
    Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:41 AM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations =
for laptop computers and digital cameras


    With notebook computers, get the fastest P4 processor you can =
afford, 512 megs RAM, and a CDRW/DVD.  Bigger is better in hard drives, =
so look for 40 gig minimum.  Keep in mind that most of the wireless =
Internet companies will start charging you a per minute charge as soon =
as you roam to analog, so check the plan carefully.

    With digital cameras, the two main factors are megapixals and the =
lens.  The more megapixals the better the pictures will be and the more =
you can blow them up.  I would suggest at least 4 megapixals.  Camera =
salesmen will talk about optical zoom and digital zoom.  Forget digital =
zoom, because you can do the same thing later on the computer.  Look at =
optical zoom only.  Also, in my experience, the camera companies do =
better lenses than the electronic companies now looking for a piece of =
the digital camera market.  Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Minolta, and some =
others have been making cameras for a long time.  You won't go wrong if =
you stick with them.  By the way, I teach digital photography (and =
computer science) at the college here, so I have experience with a lot =
of different cameras.  I also teach astronomy, so if you decide you want =
to hook up your digital camera to a telescope, let me know.

    Bill in Willcox

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Ken Akerman=20

      I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop =
with wireless Internet access.  Therefore, I can bring this computer =
with me while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, =
and enter my cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.  I =
would also like to use my computer for downloading digital photos.  Does =
anyone have any recommendations about the best laptop computer to buy?  =
What requirements, such as memory, processor speed, and hard drive =
space, should I get?

      Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.  The one =
I have is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first =
place.  I am thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't want =
to spend a lot of money.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a =
high-quality, affordable digital camera?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ah yes.&nbsp; The infamous grey market=20
cameras.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dbrian@brianlafrance.com =
href=3D"mailto:brian@brianlafrance.com">Brian=20
  LaFrance</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 20, =
2003 10:52=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Gasoline in=20
  Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital =
cameras</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D884283517-20082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Be=20
  careful getting a laptop with a fast processor that is not built on =
the=20
  Centrino technology.&nbsp; I have been reading lately that many new =
laptops=20
  with processors over 1.0 GHz get extremely hot.&nbsp; There have even =
been=20
  several reports of fires caused by overheating processors.&nbsp; My =
laptop has=20
  a 1.0 GHz processor in it and it usually gets too hot to sit on my lap =
after a=20
  couple of hours of being on.&nbsp; It has to fans to vent the heat, =
but they=20
  just cannot keep up with the heat.&nbsp; You also want to check on how =
loud=20
  the vent fans are on any notebook you look at.&nbsp; There's nothing =
like=20
  sitting around trying to work in silence with a screaming fan in front =
of=20
  you.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D884283517-20082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D884283517-20082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>As=20
  far as digital cameras go, I am on my second Kodak digital and have =
had no=20
  problems with either.&nbsp; I have several friends that are =
also&nbsp;very=20
  satisfied with their Kodak cameras.&nbsp; As Bill states, the optical =
zoom and=20
  resolution are what you want to focus on.&nbsp; Several cameras =
promote=20
  special features that you'll never use.&nbsp; Another item that you =
want to=20
  look into is the type of media the photos are saved on.&nbsp; Compact =
Flash=20
  seems to be the least expensive right now and is very =
dependable.&nbsp; IMHO,=20
  stay away from Sony products that use Memory Stik media.&nbsp; These =
Memory=20
  Stiks are only compatible with Sony devices.&nbsp; All of my =
electronic=20
  devices take compact flash cards, so I can swap them across units=20
  easily.&nbsp; Once you decide on a model, shop around.&nbsp; Ebay is a =
good=20
  place to look for digital cameras.&nbsp; Just make sure that the =
camera has a=20
  US warranty.&nbsp; Alot of camera shops out of NY that sell dirt cheap =
cameras=20
  are selling imports that are not warranted.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D884283517-20082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D884283517-20082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>-Brian</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
    [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf =
Of=20
    </B>Bill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:41 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Gasoline in=20
    Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers and digital=20
    cameras<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>With notebook =
computers, get the=20
    fastest P4 processor you can afford, 512 megs RAM, and a =
CDRW/DVD.&nbsp;=20
    Bigger is better in hard drives, so look for 40 gig minimum.&nbsp; =
Keep in=20
    mind that most of the wireless Internet companies will start =
charging you a=20
    per minute charge as soon as you roam to analog, so check the plan=20
    carefully.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>With digital cameras, =
the two=20
    main factors are megapixals and the lens.&nbsp; The more megapixals =
the=20
    better the pictures will be and the more you can blow them up.&nbsp; =
I would=20
    suggest at least 4 megapixals.&nbsp; Camera salesmen will talk about =
optical=20
    zoom and digital zoom.&nbsp; Forget digital zoom, because you can do =
the=20
    same thing later on the computer.&nbsp; Look at optical zoom =
only.&nbsp;=20
    Also, in my experience, the camera companies do better lenses than =
the=20
    electronic companies now looking for a piece of the digital camera=20
    market.&nbsp; Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Minolta, and some others have =
been=20
    making cameras for a long time.&nbsp; You won't go wrong if you =
stick with=20
    them.&nbsp; By the way, I teach digital photography (and computer =
science)=20
    at the college here, so I have experience with a lot of different=20
    cameras.&nbsp; I also teach astronomy, so if you decide you want to =
hook up=20
    your digital camera to a telescope, let me know.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Bill in =
Willcox</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dken@highpointer.com =
href=3D"mailto:ken@highpointer.com">Ken=20
      Akerman</A> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a =
laptop=20
      with wireless Internet access.&nbsp; Therefore, I can bring this =
computer=20
      with me while traveling, look for caches in the places where I =
visit, and=20
      enter my cache findings and travel bug movements a lot =
faster.&nbsp; I=20
      would also like to use my computer for downloading digital =
photos.&nbsp;=20
      Does anyone have any recommendations&nbsp;about the best laptop =
computer=20
      to buy?&nbsp; What requirements, such as memory, processor speed, =
and hard=20
      drive space, should I get?</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Also, I am also considering replacing my digital =
camera.&nbsp; The=20
      one I have is not working well, and I never liked it much in the =
first=20
      place.&nbsp; I am thinking of upgrading to something better, but I =
don't=20
      want to spend a lot of money.&nbsp; Does anyone have a =
recommendation for=20
      a high-quality, affordable digital=20
camera?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 21:43:05 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:43:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott
Message-ID: <20030820144306.28655.h005.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

, so I would also like to request replies  on the fuel situation in
Prescott from Prescottians like Lincoln and  Trisha.
> 
> 
> Prices continue to climb, but there are no lines....except at Costco.
> 
> ~ Ken



Ditto, the station near my house in the middle of Prescott Valley has
gas at 1.79 (reg) and no lines.
However, I did hear that Chino Valley, 20 min north of Prescott, was
running out of gas, so the "ripple effect", esp. with the pipeline
still down, may make it worse. I will report any info I get.
Trisha 'Lightning'
Prescott
> 
> 

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 20 22:26:05 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:26:05 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott
Message-ID: <6FBA9B8A.26A812E3.0013DAD2@aol.com>

Mary and I want to go to williams/seligman area this weekend. Is there a problem getting gas in Flag/Williams/Seligman area. I figure we'll bring a drop tank and fill it in Flag , so when we get back to town we don't have to fill up for a few days.

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 03:13:22 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Burkett)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:13:22 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints
In-Reply-To: <6FBA9B8A.26A812E3.0013DAD2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <IJEGJOIGCGEGCIDEFOGPIEJDCJAA.wburkett@yahoo.com>

We're headed to southern Utah soon on vacation and would like to find some
caches along the way.  Now, if we were traveling in Arizona, I'd just
download the latest MapSource file of caches from AzGeocaching.com, open the
file and see what caches are near where we're going to be.

Does anybody know of a similar resource for Utah?  Or is there some way to
easily download cache waypoints for a section of the state through
geocaching.com?  I'll be darned if I can figure out how.



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 04:15:25 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Eric Bay)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:15:25 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints
Message-ID: <BAY1-F74IfpT8vWyu9k000244d8@hotmail.com>

I was looking around and I found this site that has a similar map to the one 
I've seen on our own arizona page.  The address is  
http://www.brillig.com/geocaching/utah.shtml

When you put your mouse over a dot it gives you the name of the cache and a 
simple click brings you to the oh so familiar geocaching page.  Anyway, I 
hope this helps you out.  At a quick glance, I didn't see anything that 
compares to what we have via azgeocaching.com, we are truly privileged to 
have Team Snaptek providing such a service.  I think I might look around 
some more and see what I can find. Happy hunting.

Eric
~Crazyebay


>From: "Bill Burkett" <wburkett@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints
>Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:13:22 -0700
>
>We're headed to southern Utah soon on vacation and would like to find some
>caches along the way.  Now, if we were traveling in Arizona, I'd just
>download the latest MapSource file of caches from AzGeocaching.com, open 
>the
>file and see what caches are near where we're going to be.
>
>Does anybody know of a similar resource for Utah?  Or is there some way to
>easily download cache waypoints for a section of the state through
>geocaching.com?  I'll be darned if I can figure out how.
>
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 05:14:26 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Mark Heitowit)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:14:26 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints
References: <IJEGJOIGCGEGCIDEFOGPIEJDCJAA.wburkett@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3F445531.B30AC8A8@usa.net>

Only if you are a premium/charter member. You can use the Pocket Query
Generator. It is not as good as AzGeocaching, but better than searching out each
one.

Bill Burkett wrote:

> We're headed to southern Utah soon on vacation and would like to find some
> caches along the way.  Now, if we were traveling in Arizona, I'd just
> download the latest MapSource file of caches from AzGeocaching.com, open the
> file and see what caches are near where we're going to be.
>
> Does anybody know of a similar resource for Utah?  Or is there some way to
> easily download cache waypoints for a section of the state through
> geocaching.com?  I'll be darned if I can figure out how.
>
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> http://www.azgeocaching.com


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 05:24:20 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Virgil Silhanek)
Date: 20 Aug 2003 22:24:20 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for
 laptop computers and digital cameras
In-Reply-To: <20030820144515.20292.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030820144515.20292.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1061443460.11677.15.camel@ip68-3-80-44.ph.ph.cox.net>

I've used a few different models of Kodak digital cameras.  They have a
really solid product that can be found at good prices.  Their ~$300
range cameras are what I would recommend for an inexpensive, but good
quality digital camera.

Virgil

On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 07:45, Ken Akerman wrote:
> I have more than a half a tank of gas left in my SUV, but I decided to
> ride my bike to work today to save the fuel for the weekend.  I have
> enough fuel to drive to the Prescott area, so I intend to go
> geocaching in the Prescott area on Saturday and will fill up with fuel
> in Prescott Valley or Prescott.  A friend who lives in the Prescott
> area reports that as of today, there is fuel at all the stations near
> his home and there are no lines.  He is not a geocacher, so I would
> also like to request replies on the fuel situation in Prescott from
> Prescottians like Lincoln and Trisha.
>  
> I need a new home computer, and I am thinking of getting a laptop with
> wireless Internet access.  Therefore, I can bring this computer with
> me while traveling, look for caches in the places where I visit, and
> enter my cache findings and travel bug movements a lot faster.  I
> would also like to use my computer for downloading digital photos. 
> Does anyone have any recommendations about the best laptop computer to
> buy?  What requirements, such as memory, processor speed, and hard
> drive space, should I get?
>  
> Also, I am also considering replacing my digital camera.  The one I
> have is not working well, and I never liked it much in the first
> place.  I am thinking of upgrading to something better, but I don't
> want to spend a lot of money.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a
> high-quality, affordable digital camera?
>  
> Ken Akerman (a.k.a. Highpointer)


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 07:45:07 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RopingThe Wind)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:45:07 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Gasoline in Prescott; recommendations for laptop computers
 and digital cameras
Message-ID: <BAY8-F72dVe5HXC9xub00041f2b@hotmail.com>

Earlier this summer, I got hooked up with wireless internet on my PDA. I 
have a Palm M130 with color screen, the internet looks pretty decent.  I 
found a couple of full featured web browsers online. One is from IPanel 
Wireless. Another is a text only browser fron Eudora. The first one I 
mentioned is cool. I see web pages on my PDA just like I would view them on 
my desktop screen (with some slight wrapping as the PDA screen is small). I 
purchased a cable from TheSupplyNet.com. This is the only place I was able 
to find a cable for my Palm M130 to my specific model cell phone. Finally, I 
have internet access thru my Verizon cell phone plan. It is included with my 
Nationwide plan. I dont pay any additional. It just uses my minutes. I have 
unlimited nights and weekends, so I only access the internet on my PDA 
during those hours. I also dont roam. I can access the internet virtually 
anywhere!

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 14:51:26 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Burkett)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:51:26 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints
In-Reply-To: <3F445531.B30AC8A8@usa.net>
Message-ID: <IJEGJOIGCGEGCIDEFOGPOEJECJAA.wburkett@yahoo.com>

That was my conclusion, too, Mark.  Thanks!

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]  On Behalf Of Mark
Heitowit
Sent:	Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:14 PM
To:	listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject:	Re: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints

Only if you are a premium/charter member. You can use the Pocket Query
Generator. It is not as good as AzGeocaching, but better than searching out
each
one.

Bill Burkett wrote:

> We're headed to southern Utah soon on vacation and would like to find some
> caches along the way.  Now, if we were traveling in Arizona, I'd just
> download the latest MapSource file of caches from AzGeocaching.com, open
the
> file and see what caches are near where we're going to be.
>
> Does anybody know of a similar resource for Utah?  Or is there some way to
> easily download cache waypoints for a section of the state through
> geocaching.com?  I'll be darned if I can figure out how.
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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> To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>
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> http://www.azgeocaching.com

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 14:49:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Randy Kinkel)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:49:02 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] top ten GOOD things about the gas crisis  (joke)
Message-ID: <000501c367f3$5dcaee00$6401a8c0@ph.cox.net>

10. gets people thinking about conservation.

9.   people are looking at alternative modes of transportation.

8.   makes us appreciate what we normally have.

7.  "fun" video of angry guy at station on 7th ave gets played
over and over.

6.   lots of time to catch up on your reading while in line for
gas.

5.  Traffic is lighter on Valley freeways.

4.  creates easy topic of conversation with strangers.

3.  hopefully measures will be implemented so this problem
doesn't happen again.

2. two words: TANK FARM!


and the top Thing that's good about the gas crisis is...

1.  gas stations that have gas can now be logged as "event"
caches!  (took 20 gallons, left 50 bucks.)  HA!

have a good day, cachers!

"Mozartman"


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 14:55:09 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Burkett)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:55:09 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F74IfpT8vWyu9k000244d8@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <IJEGJOIGCGEGCIDEFOGPGEJFCJAA.wburkett@yahoo.com>

Ah, beautiful!  You're right about it not being up to the level we've come
to enjoy from azgeocaching.com, but it's a start.  Thanks, Eric!

And I see the page is already on azgeocaching as a link.  Those Snaptek guys
are right on top of it all!


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]  On Behalf Of Eric
Bay
Sent:	Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:15 PM
To:	listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject:	Re: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints

I was looking around and I found this site that has a similar map to the one
I've seen on our own arizona page.  The address is
http://www.brillig.com/geocaching/utah.shtml

When you put your mouse over a dot it gives you the name of the cache and a
simple click brings you to the oh so familiar geocaching page.  Anyway, I
hope this helps you out.  At a quick glance, I didn't see anything that
compares to what we have via azgeocaching.com, we are truly privileged to
have Team Snaptek providing such a service.  I think I might look around
some more and see what I can find. Happy hunting.

Eric
~Crazyebay


>From: "Bill Burkett" <wburkett@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Finding Utah Cache Waypoints
>Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:13:22 -0700
>
>We're headed to southern Utah soon on vacation and would like to find some
>caches along the way.  Now, if we were traveling in Arizona, I'd just
>download the latest MapSource file of caches from AzGeocaching.com, open
>the
>file and see what caches are near where we're going to be.
>
>Does anybody know of a similar resource for Utah?  Or is there some way to
>easily download cache waypoints for a section of the state through
>geocaching.com?  I'll be darned if I can figure out how.
>
>
>____________________________________________________________
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>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
>
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>http://www.azgeocaching.com

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 21 23:40:40 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (GREGG OBUCH)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:40:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Continuing Stat Saga
Message-ID: <20030821234040.37665.qmail@web80212.mail.yahoo.com>

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The stats have looked a lot better the last couple of days as far as getting the Arizona caches actually counted as Arizona caches.  The Snaptec guys are to be commended!  However...here are two that are still being counted as OOS:  GCGBVD and GCGM01.
 
Gregg of MO & GO


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 19:37:03 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:37:03 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 19:56:28 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:56:28 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
References: <009001c368e4$c4715620$6130bf3f@fishkiller>
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site!  Congratulations Fred!  When do we get to meet the Ms.?

Rand
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From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Tomlinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:55:19 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
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I thought I told you to keep your Fred away from my Frederica.  I hope he's
planning on marrying her now.  LOL

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 20:59:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:59:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Interesting "Multi-Location Virtual"
Message-ID: <20030822135942.22197.h011.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Hey all,
There is an interesting "virtual" (really, kinda a combo virtual and
locationless....?) called A Pair of Quintupulets GC338E. I enjoy these
kind that deal with lat/long coords.
Prescott cachers, I already snagged the 34 33.333 112 33.333 spot, in
Highland Pines! But there should be a few other good ones up here, and
a bunch in Phoenix and other areas.
Over 300 have logged this one from all over the world!
have fun,
Trisha 'Lightning'
Prescott

My pics aren't up yet but I got some good ones of the pine forest,
view of Prescott (including a T-storm downpour) 

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 21:05:56 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:05:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
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I believe there is a cache near a church that should be able to perform the ceremony.

Bill Tomlinson <billtomlinson@qwest.net> wrote:I thought I told you to keep your Fred away from my Frederica.  I hope he's planning on marrying her now.  LOL

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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:37 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???


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Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>I believe there is a cache near a church that should be able to perform the ceremony.<BR><BR><B><I>Bill Tomlinson &lt;billtomlinson@qwest.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN class=824235420-22082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I thought I told you to keep your Fred away from my Frederica.&nbsp; I hope he's planning on marrying her now.&nbsp; LOL</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Regan L Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 22, 2003 12:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=4">http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=4</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 21:11:05 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:11:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
Message-ID: <20030822141106.26687.h011.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Who...or what...is FRED?


On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:55:19 -0700, "Bill Tomlinson" wrote:




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I 
thought I told you to keep your Fred away from my Frederica.  I hope
he's 
planning on marrying her now.  LOL

  
  -----Original Message-----From: 
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  Regan L SmithSent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:37 
  PMTo: listserv@azgeocaching.comSubject: [Az-Geocaching] 
  Is it me or has FRED been busy???
  http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=4
   
   

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 21:24:58 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:24:58 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Continuing stats saga...
Message-ID: <3F468A2A.6060000@mchsi.com>

Another one that is _still_ missing from my Arizona finds is :

Desert Giant    GCG95J

-- Sprocket

>From: GREGG OBUCH <gobuch@prodigy.net>
>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Continuing Stat Saga
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>
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>The stats have looked a lot better the last couple of days as far as getting the Arizona caches actually counted as Arizona caches.  The Snaptec guys are to be commended!  However...here are two that are still being counted as OOS:  GCGBVD and GCGM01.
> 
>Gregg of MO & GO
>



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 21:31:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Continuing stats saga...
In-Reply-To: <3F468A2A.6060000@mchsi.com>
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That's odd. It's missing from mine too, yet the number count is correct. (How did that happen?)

Scott Sparks <scottsparks1@mchsi.com> wrote:Another one that is _still_ missing from my Arizona finds is :

Desert Giant GCG95J

-- Sprocket

>From: GREGG OBUCH 
>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Continuing Stat Saga
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>
>--0-1480490454-1061509240=:34990
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>The stats have looked a lot better the last couple of days as far as getting the Arizona caches actually counted as Arizona caches. The Snaptec guys are to be commended! However...here are two that are still being counted as OOS: GCGBVD and GCGM01.
> 
>Gregg of MO & GO
>


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Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>That's odd. It's missing from mine too, yet the number count is correct. (How did that happen?)<BR><BR><B><I>Scott Sparks &lt;scottsparks1@mchsi.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Another one that is _still_ missing from my Arizona finds is :<BR><BR>Desert Giant GCG95J<BR><BR>-- Sprocket<BR><BR>&gt;From: GREGG OBUCH <GOBUCH@PRODIGY.NET><BR>&gt;To: listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt;Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Continuing Stat Saga<BR>&gt;Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;--0-1480490454-1061509240=:34990<BR>&gt;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;The stats have looked a lot better the last couple of days as far as getting the Arizona caches actually counted as Arizona caches. The Snaptec guys are to be commended! However...here are two that are still being counted as OOS: GCGBVD and GCGM01.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;Gregg of MO &amp; GO<BR>&gt;<BR><BR><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe
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<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 21:39:31 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (jr davis)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:39:31 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Continuing stats saga...
References: <3F468A2A.6060000@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <001501c368f5$df65c1d0$0100a8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>

Stats  look a lot better but my AZ stats is missing 2 they are
GCG95J &GC9C1A
Thanks snaptec guy  for the hard work
AJ.JR


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Sparks" <scottsparks1@mchsi.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Continuing stats saga...


> Another one that is _still_ missing from my Arizona finds is :
>
> Desert Giant    GCG95J
>
> -- Sprocket
>
> >From: GREGG OBUCH <gobuch@prodigy.net>
> >To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Continuing Stat Saga
> >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >
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> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >The stats have looked a lot better the last couple of days as far as
getting the Arizona caches actually counted as Arizona caches.  The Snaptec
guys are to be commended!  However...here are two that are still being
counted as OOS:  GCGBVD and GCGM01.
> >
> >Gregg of MO & GO
> >
>
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 21:47:38 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:47:38 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
References: <20030822141106.26687.h011.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>
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Trisha,

I think it's obvious!  Fred is Frederica's boyfriend!

Go to Regan's Groundspeak product link below to see a photo of their =
children! =20

Rand
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Trisha=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???


  Who...or what...is FRED?

  =
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  On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:55:19 -0700, "Bill Tomlinson" wrote:

  Message:

  I thought I told you to keep your Fred away from my Frederica. I hope
  he's planning on marrying her now. LOL

   =20
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    az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
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    Is it me or has FRED been busy???

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From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:07:58 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
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Trisha,

You can learn more about Fred by going to GCG995 (where he got a job!).
You can also find out about Fred's other adventures by going to GCE378 =
(Where he took a break) and GCCD3F (When he visited Dana Ranch).   =20

Rand
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???


  Trisha,

  I think it's obvious!  Fred is Frederica's boyfriend!

  Go to Regan's Groundspeak product link below to see a photo of their =
children! =20

  Rand
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Trisha=20
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:11 PM
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???


    Who...or what...is FRED?

    =
*************************************************************************=
**********

    On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:55:19 -0700, "Bill Tomlinson" wrote:

    Message:

    I thought I told you to keep your Fred away from my Frederica. I =
hope
    he's planning on marrying her now. LOL

     =20
      -----Original Message-----From:=20
      az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
      [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf =
Of=20
      Regan L Smith Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:37=20
      PMTo: listserv@azgeocaching.comSubject: [Az-Geocaching]

      Is it me or has FRED been busy???

      http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=3D4
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<DIV>Rand</DIV>
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  =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 22, 2003 =
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  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Is =
it me or=20
  has FRED been busy???</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>Trisha,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I think it's obvious!&nbsp; Fred is Frederica's boyfriend!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Go to Regan's <STRONG>Groundspeak product</STRONG>&nbsp;link =
below to see=20
  a photo of their children!&nbsp; <IMG title=3D"Winking smiley =
emoticon"=20
  style=3D"FLOAT: none; MARGIN: 0px; POSITION: static" tabIndex=3D-1=20
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  <DIV>Rand</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:trisha@brasher.com">Trisha</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
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    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Is it me=20
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG>Who...or what...is FRED?</STRONG></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 22:49:13 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:49:13 EDT
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re: pair of quints
Message-ID: <f6.2f76dcef.2c77f7e9@aol.com>

I already snagged the one at N 33° 22.222 W 111° 44.444
This pair of quints is near the corner of Seahorn Court and Egret Court in 
Gilbert.

CacheUsOut

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 22 23:07:08 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Pat Thompson)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:07:08 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Ccache stats.
Message-ID: <3F46A21C.9040108@cox.net>

Our thanks to Jason and Team Snaptek who remedied a world of ills in
their latest stat's page corrections. We note that  GCGCE6
should be an Arizona cache and then our stats will be accurate.
We have no out-of-state caches.
Thanks again
Team Seeking
Pat & Jan Thompson


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 23 01:40:52 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:40:52 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
References: <20030822141106.26687.h011.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net> <BAY4-DAV16yA7uOrfKt0002399d@hotmail.com>
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umm not Frederica  Pebbles hubby and yes they eloped to avoid the =
shotgun wedding :)=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: RAND HARDIN=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???


  Trisha,

  I think it's obvious!  Fred is Frederica's boyfriend!

  Go to Regan's Groundspeak product link below to see a photo of their =
children! =20

  Rand
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Trisha=20
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:11 PM
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???


    Who...or what...is FRED?

    =
*************************************************************************=
**********

    On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:55:19 -0700, "Bill Tomlinson" wrote:

    Message:

    I thought I told you to keep your Fred away from my Frederica. I =
hope
    he's planning on marrying her now. LOL

     =20
      -----Original Message-----From:=20
      az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
      [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf =
Of=20
      Regan L Smith Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:37=20
      PMTo: listserv@azgeocaching.comSubject: [Az-Geocaching]

      Is it me or has FRED been busy???

      http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=3D4
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV>Trisha,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I think it's obvious!&nbsp; Fred is Frederica's boyfriend!</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Go to Regan's <STRONG>Groundspeak product</STRONG>&nbsp;link =
below to see=20
  a photo of their children!&nbsp; <IMG title=3D"Winking smiley =
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  style=3D"FLOAT: none; MARGIN: 0px; POSITION: static" tabIndex=3D-1=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 22, 2003 =
2:11=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Is it me=20
    or has FRED been busy???</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG>Who...or what...is FRED?</STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    =
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***************<BR></DIV>
    <DIV><U>On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:55:19 -0700, "Bill Tomlinson"=20
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you to=20
    keep your Fred away from my Frederica. I hope<BR>he's planning on =
marrying=20
    her now. LOL<BR><BR>&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; -----Original =
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    <BR>&nbsp; <A=20
    =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 23 02:54:54 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:54:54 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
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Not you.  FRED is in secret, a rabbit.
> 
> From: "Regan L Smith" <buggers@mindspring.com>
> Date: 2003/08/22 Fri PM 03:37:03 EDT
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
> 
> http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=4
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 23 03:03:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:03:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
In-Reply-To: <20030823025452.FHOH4315.fed1mtao07.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20030823030304.37153.qmail@web14806.mail.yahoo.com>

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Is that Animal Pals Fred?

bcasteel@cox.net wrote:Not you. FRED is in secret, a rabbit.
> 
> From: "Regan L Smith" 
> Date: 2003/08/22 Fri PM 03:37:03 EDT
> To: 

> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???
> 
> http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=4
> 
> 
> 
http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=4
 
 



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>Is that Animal Pals Fred?<BR><BR><B><I>bcasteel@cox.net</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Not you. FRED is in secret, a rabbit.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: "Regan L Smith" <BUGGERS@MINDSPRING.COM><BR>&gt; Date: 2003/08/22 Fri PM 03:37:03 EDT<BR>&gt; To: <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM><BR>&gt; Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Is it me or has FRED been busy???<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; http://shop.groundspeak.com/productList.cfm?categoryID=4<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</FONT></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 23 04:25:10 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (GREGG OBUCH)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:25:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re: pair of quints
In-Reply-To: <f6.2f76dcef.2c77f7e9@aol.com>
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The one we did was N 32º 11.111  W 110º 44.444.   Which places you in the middle of a prickly pear patch east of Tucson.
 
MO & GO
 

CacheUsOut@aol.com wrote:
I already snagged the one at N 33° 22.222 W 111° 44.444
This pair of quints is near the corner of Seahorn Court and Egret Court in 
Gilbert.

CacheUsOut
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<DIV>The one we did was N 32º 11.111&nbsp; W 110º 44.444.&nbsp;&nbsp; Which places you in the middle of a prickly pear patch east of Tucson.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>MO &amp; GO</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;<BR><BR><B><I>CacheUsOut@aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">I already snagged the one at N 33° 22.222 W 111° 44.444<BR>This pair of quints is near the corner of Seahorn Court and Egret Court in <BR>Gilbert.<BR><BR>CacheUsOut<BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 23 05:52:08 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:52:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hey Prescott Area Cachers...
Message-ID: <20030822225208.27580.h010.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Does anybody have a telescope, so we can have a MARS party and make it
an event cache? 
Or does anybody know if any group or club is having a MARS viewing
gathering in the area?

Ken? Dave? Kevin? Darin? Anybody know?

Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 23 15:38:10 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Darin & Dani)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:38:10 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hey Prescott Area Cachers...
References: <20030822225208.27580.h010.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c3698c$9228ef40$d71d13d8@commspeed.net>

Hey Trisha,

Sorry, don't have one anymore.  It is about time for a Prescott gathering
however.  It would be fun to get together with you all again.  We should do
something before winter comes.  I know some of us have limited budgets,
including ourselves, but maybe a pizza or breakfast cache somewhere?  There
did used to be an astronomy club in Prescott years ago.  Do not know if it
still is in existence?  Ken?

Darin.
Team DDJT + Sassie the Wonder Dog.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Trisha" <trisha@brasher.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 10:52 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hey Prescott Area Cachers...


> Does anybody have a telescope, so we can have a MARS party and make it
> an event cache?
> Or does anybody know if any group or club is having a MARS viewing
> gathering in the area?
>
> Ken? Dave? Kevin? Darin? Anybody know?
>
> Trisha "Lightning"
> Prescott
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 06:02:36 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:02:36 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 1st Annual Halloween Radioactive (GCGPW6)
Message-ID: <006501c36a05$518e8020$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

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After Breakfast Cache #3 today, Tamo, Aus Dem Kasten, CopyCache and =
myself met at the location of the October event cache to discuss plans =
and introduce the area to a few of those wesssssssssiders who rarely =
venture to THAT side of the world.

During our discussion, the issue of food came up.  Hopefully to ensure =
that we don't end up with seven kinds of Dorito's and a 4oz can of dip, =
the following idea was discussed:

Charging $2 per adult and $1 for children 3-12 to off-set the cost of =
food (we provide).  Any funds left over would be placed in the final =
stage of the 1313 Dead End Drive cache as an additional prize for the =
FTF team.  Depending on how well this is received, and how many attend, =
there could be a decent amount for the FTF!  Of course, no estimates =
will be available, as we will not have a solid figure of revenue until =
the event.

Please let me know what you think of this idea, and whether or not we =
should just got back to an alphabet/food type system. =20

Brian
Team A.I.


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 06:09:01 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:09:01 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Aha!  It's fixed!
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Weird.  When I was at work earlier, I couldn't send to the listserv.  =
Got some weird error about how it didn't know who =
listserv@azgeocaching.com was.  Maybe it was down temporarily and =
working now?  Anyone else have submission problems?

Brian
Team A.I.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 07:36:08 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:36:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Brian's e-mails
Message-ID: <20030824073608.37714.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com>

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I tried posting repsonses earlier....
 
Then tried pasting and responding and couldn't even paste.....
 
Food idea sounds good Brian. Saves me the trouble of bringing food.
 
I had trouble with the list serv about a month ago when I asked you to post something for me since I couldn't get on. I kept getting a fatal error/unrecognizable address message for 2 days.


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<DIV>I tried posting repsonses earlier....</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Food idea sounds good Brian. Saves me the trouble of bringing food.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I had trouble with the list serv about a month ago when I asked you to post something for me since I couldn't get on. I kept getting a fatal error/unrecognizable address message for 2 days.</DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 06:21:29 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:21:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Aha!  It's fixed!
In-Reply-To: <008301c36a06$36f108e0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
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I had problems like that a month ago or so. That's when I sent you something and asked you to post it to the listserv. I kept getting "terminal/fatal error" messages. Something about not recognizing the address.
 
The food idea sounds fine to Mike and I. A few dollars for food, and I don't have to worry about what to bring.


Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:
Weird.  When I was at work earlier, I couldn't send to the listserv.  Got some weird error about how it didn't know who listserv@azgeocaching.com was.  Maybe it was down temporarily and working now?  Anyone else have submission problems?
 
Brian
Team A.I.



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<DIV>I had problems like that a month ago or so. That's when I sent you something and asked you to post it to the listserv. I kept getting "terminal/fatal error" messages. Something about not recognizing the address.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The food idea sounds fine to Mike and I. A few dollars for food, and I don't have to worry about what to bring.<BR><BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Weird.&nbsp; When I was at work earlier, I couldn't send to the listserv.&nbsp; Got some weird error about how it didn't know who <A href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> was.&nbsp; Maybe it was down temporarily and working now?&nbsp; Anyone else have submission problems?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 10:31:09 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 6:31:09 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re: pair of quints
Message-ID: <20030824103107.RHXP4315.fed1mtao07.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Back on the Forth of July, I snagged N 34° 11.111 W 109° 44.444.  It is pretty close to were I go for my summer getaways.  

I forgot I had taken the picture, until the posts on the listserv reminded me.  

It was kinda weird, my grandfather couldn't figure out why I stopped the truck, hiked up the hill about 300 feet to take a picture of my hand.  

What really stinks is... the Los Burros Cache is about a 2 miles on the other side of the camp.  Everytime I've gone up there, there have been too many campers there for me to get it.

Jake - Team A.I.



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 14:32:28 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:32:28 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Aha!  It's fixed!
In-Reply-To: <008301c36a06$36f108e0$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
Message-ID: <001801c36a4c$8b959280$1e01a8c0@connie>

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I had that same problem when I was trying to reply to you regarding the wow
thread. I sent it out in the evening, it bounced back that same evening. The
next day I replied my message to someone else, and it went through.
Thought it was just me, since I don't post that often.
Connie
Team "Wyle E"
  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian
Casteel
  Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:09 PM
  To: AZ Geocaching
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Aha! It's fixed!


  Weird.  When I was at work earlier, I couldn't send to the listserv.  Got
some weird error about how it didn't know who listserv@azgeocaching.com was.
Maybe it was down temporarily and working now?  Anyone else have submission
problems?

  Brian
  Team A.I.

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size=3D2>Connie</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 15:55:23 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Steven Stringham)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:55:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 1st Annual Halloween Radioactive (GCGPW6)
In-Reply-To: <006501c36a05$518e8020$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
References: <006501c36a05$518e8020$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
Message-ID: <2514.172.30.1.10.1061740523.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>

Sounds like an exceedingly reasonable amount of cache (I mean Cash). Great
idea.

I'm all for it.

> After Breakfast Cache #3 today, Tamo, Aus Dem Kasten, CopyCache and myself
> met at the location of the October event cache to discuss plans and
> introduce the area to a few of those wesssssssssiders who rarely venture
> to THAT side of the world.
>
> During our discussion, the issue of food came up.  Hopefully to ensure
> that we don't end up with seven kinds of Dorito's and a 4oz can of dip,
> the following idea was discussed:
>
> Charging $2 per adult and $1 for children 3-12 to off-set the cost of food
> (we provide).  Any funds left over would be placed in the final stage of
> the 1313 Dead End Drive cache as an additional prize for the FTF team.
> Depending on how well this is received, and how many attend, there could
> be a decent amount for the FTF!  Of course, no estimates will be
> available, as we will not have a solid figure of revenue until the event.
>
> Please let me know what you think of this idea, and whether or not we
> should just got back to an alphabet/food type system.
>
> Brian
> Team A.I.



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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 17:34:13 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Steven Stringham)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:34:13 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott locations - fire danger
Message-ID: <3244.172.30.1.10.1061746453.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>

I am planning on taking my scout troop up to the Prescott area for a
campout and hike in early September. So, two questions.

1) With the recent rains, what is the fire danger restriction changes?  Is
it better/ less dry?

2) Suggestions on a good 5 mile (easy) hike that my out of shape self
would enjoy with my scouts. I do not have a 4x4 vehicle, so that restricts
my locations just a bit.

And, yes, I plan on doing at least just a bit of caching in the process.

Thank you
Steven Stringham
StringCachers


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 17:33:26 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Cluff)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:33:26 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Aha!  It's fixed!
In-Reply-To: <001801c36a4c$8b959280$1e01a8c0@connie>
References: <001801c36a4c$8b959280$1e01a8c0@connie>
Message-ID: <3F48F6E6.9040108@Snaptek.com>

I think this is due to our poor little ageing server (it's about 6 years 
old now) trying to keep up with the incredible amounts of spam that 
seemed to at an all time high in the last few weeks. (the mailing list 
recently only got 1 message every couple of days stuck in the moderation 
queue, and suddently is getting 20 to 30 a day)  Add that to the $#!+ 
storm of windows viri clogging up the mailserver and I'm suprised my 
little pentium 200 can keep up with it.

The good news is that I already have a new mailserver up and running 
with 10 times the speed and 200 times the storage, but the bad news is 
that it's the beginning of the school year and I probably won't have the 
  time to move all the services over right away.
One thing you can do to make your mail go through... when 
listserv@azgeocaching.com fails, send the mail to 
az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com  sending your mail to that 
address will bypass one server and send it directly to the listserv 
machine which doesn't seem to be getting beat up as bad and will most 
likely accept your mail every time.

Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek

connie.farquhar@cox.net wrote:
> I had that same problem when I was trying to reply to you regarding the wow
> thread. I sent it out in the evening, it bounced back that same evening. The
> next day I replied my message to someone else, and it went through.
> Thought it was just me, since I don't post that often.



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 20:36:14 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Darin & Dani)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:36:14 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott locations - fire danger
References: <3244.172.30.1.10.1061746453.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>
Message-ID: <000d01c36a7f$5ef7e100$d71d13d8@commspeed.net>

Hey Steve,

Probably your best bet for ease and location would be the Peavine trail.  As
a bonus there are also two caches along its length that can be retrieved.
Check out 1 of 7 (GC36B4) and Post it to the Peavine (GCG5FF).  Trisha could
give a better answer on the forest restrictions.  Hope you have a good time.

Darin.
Team DDJT + Sassie the Wonder dog.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Stringham" <sstringh@stringham-family.org>
To: "AZ Geocaching" <az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott locations - fire danger


> I am planning on taking my scout troop up to the Prescott area for a
> campout and hike in early September. So, two questions.
>
> 1) With the recent rains, what is the fire danger restriction changes?  Is
> it better/ less dry?
>
> 2) Suggestions on a good 5 mile (easy) hike that my out of shape self
> would enjoy with my scouts. I do not have a 4x4 vehicle, so that restricts
> my locations just a bit.
>
> And, yes, I plan on doing at least just a bit of caching in the process.
>
> Thank you
> Steven Stringham
> StringCachers
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> http://stringham-family.org/
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 21:39:25 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:39:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] possible sig item for Team Wyle E?
Message-ID: <20030824213925.22302.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com>

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Please check out this sig item http://www.wengren.com/geocaching/SignImg.html for JeeperDad. (lower left of page)
 
 


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 23:26:13 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:26:13 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott locations - fire danger
Message-ID: <20030824162614.29132.h014.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

As far as I know, all fire restrictions are lifted. Camping in the
urban/interface region is regulated (only in designated campsites)
I'd call the FS ahead of time just in case 928-443-8000.
Peavine Trail is nice and easy, but not really a backpack experience.
Ken (Lincoln) may know of a better backpacking trail (an EASY ONE,
Ken!! :-). If all you need is a day hike, Peavine is great, scenic
(waterfowl), etc. Access off Prescott Lakes Pkwy and 89 near the
Humane Society.
Have fun!
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott


On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:34:13 -0700 (MST), "Steven Stringham" wrote:

> 
> I am planning on taking my scout troop up to the Prescott area for a
> campout and hike in early September. So, two questions.
> 
> 1) With the recent rains, what is the fire danger restriction
changes?
>  Is
> it better/ less dry?
> 
> 2) Suggestions on a good 5 mile (easy) hike that my out of shape self
> would enjoy with my scouts. I do not have a 4x4 vehicle, so that
> restricts
> my locations just a bit.
> 
> And, yes, I plan on doing at least just a bit of caching in the
> process.
> 
> Thank you
> Steven Stringham
> StringCachers
> 
> 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 24 23:48:42 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Henson)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:48:42 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott locations - fire danger
In-Reply-To: <20030824162614.29132.h014.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>
Message-ID: <7DD6860E-D68D-11D7-99F9-000393A13A32@cableone.net>

Steven,

Have a look at:

http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/prescott/

Next go to Recreation and then on to Trails.  There are a lot to choose 
from.

Fire info is also available on that web site.

~ Ken


On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 04:26 PM, Trisha wrote:

> As far as I know, all fire restrictions are lifted. Camping in the
> urban/interface region is regulated (only in designated campsites)
> I'd call the FS ahead of time just in case 928-443-8000.
> Peavine Trail is nice and easy, but not really a backpack experience.
> Ken (Lincoln) may know of a better backpacking trail (an EASY ONE,
> Ken!! :-). If all you need is a day hike, Peavine is great, scenic
> (waterfowl), etc. Access off Prescott Lakes Pkwy and 89 near the
> Humane Society.
> Have fun!
> Trisha "Lightning"
> Prescott
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:34:13 -0700 (MST), "Steven Stringham" wrote:
>
>>
>> I am planning on taking my scout troop up to the Prescott area for a
>> campout and hike in early September. So, two questions.
>>
>> 1) With the recent rains, what is the fire danger restriction
> changes?
>>  Is
>> it better/ less dry?
>>
>> 2) Suggestions on a good 5 mile (easy) hike that my out of shape self
>> would enjoy with my scouts. I do not have a 4x4 vehicle, so that
>> restricts
>> my locations just a bit.
>>
>> And, yes, I plan on doing at least just a bit of caching in the
>> process.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Steven Stringham
>> StringCachers
>>
>>


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 25 03:14:50 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Scott Sparks)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:14:50 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: 1st Annual Halloween Radioactive
Message-ID: <3F497F2A.8050308@mchsi.com>

I am opposed to the "fee for food" idea. I agree the proposed amount is 
very minimal but, when you've got 5 or 6 members on your team, it adds 
up.  In principle, I'm opposed to any cache (or event cache) that 
requires a fee.  It tends to exclude those who are on  fixed or limited 
entertainment budgets. And what about people that just want to cache and 
visit and aren't interested in eating?  Do they have to pay? And if they 
don't, are they allowed to find the cache? And if they are FTF, do they 
have a right to the surplus monies?  I would much rather people just 
bring what food they can.  Maybe you could post a note to (or put in the 
description of)  the cache page what food is needed and how much. 
 People planning on attending can pick something from the list and post 
a note saying they'll bring it.  

I'm also uneasy with the idea of putting the excess funds in the cache 
for the FTF.  When money (or a prize) is involved, people tend to get 
very competitive.  Plus, FTF generally goes to whoever shows up first 
and it will become, quite simply, a race to the cache.  Not unlike the 
recent Magellan cache hunt which was a complete farce, IMHO.  I'd rather 
see the excess funds, if there are any, given away in a random drawing. 
At least then everyone would have an equal shot at it.

just my $.02.

-- Sprocket

>After Breakfast Cache #3 today, Tamo, Aus Dem Kasten, CopyCache and =
>myself met at the location of the October event cache to discuss plans =
>and introduce the area to a few of those wesssssssssiders who rarely =
>venture to THAT side of the world.
>
>During our discussion, the issue of food came up.  Hopefully to ensure =
>that we don't end up with seven kinds of Dorito's and a 4oz can of dip, =
>the following idea was discussed:
>
>Charging $2 per adult and $1 for children 3-12 to off-set the cost of =
>food (we provide).  Any funds left over would be placed in the final =
>stage of the 1313 Dead End Drive cache as an additional prize for the =
>FTF team.  Depending on how well this is received, and how many attend, =
>there could be a decent amount for the FTF!  Of course, no estimates =
>will be available, as we will not have a solid figure of revenue until =
>the event.
>
>Please let me know what you think of this idea, and whether or not we =
>should just got back to an alphabet/food type system. =20
>
>Brian
>Team A.I.
>



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 25 06:18:40 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RopingThe Wind)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:18:40 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: 1st Annual Halloween Radioactive
Message-ID: <BAY8-F119CThXNjXwUU0000b5f6@hotmail.com>

Bummer!  As I am up here in WA, I obviously had to miss the last geocache 
get together (breakfast cache #3).  Evilfish's Breakfast caches have been 
fun. It appears I will also miss this Halloween event cache as I will be in 
Albuquerque, NM that weekend! Drat! That's two event caches and two 'finds' 
missed! :) Of course, I am not into the numbers or nothing....  ;) LOL

Scott
Team Ropingthewind

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 25 06:36:26 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:36:26 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: 1st Annual Halloween Radioactive
References: <3F497F2A.8050308@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <003a01c36ad3$35ef6130$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>

Scott,

Thanks for the input.  I'm sure there's going to be 2 distinct camps on this
issue, which is why it was put out to the listserv.  As far as the FTF and
showing up first to grab the FTF, that would be impossible.  The cache
events are going to be scheduled, and the specific information for the
initial stage isn't going to be revealed until the moment that particular
event is to begin. There will be a cache to find/sign, but will have nothing
to do with the event scheduled, OR the proposed FTF prize/find.  The way I
see it, a 'team' of 5 or 6 would get quite expensive at another outing
(i.e., movies/mini-golf/paintball), and this is a safe, enjoyable family
event.  This just simplifies everything for all attendees.  Even as co-host,
I'm forking out the $6 for my family of 4.  Also, the cache 'contest' that
would contain the monies isn't going to be as simple as you think.  Details
are to come in weeks ahead.  A race to the cache is going to be just about
impossible.

Those who visit the cache but do not eat/drink would have no reason to pay.
That doesn't make sense.  The event is both food/drink/caching
entertainment, with events that will appeal to just about everyone.  Due to
the fact that the event is starting around dinner time, it just seemed
logical to have a meal served, and we were looking to make it no more
difficult for attendees than bringing yourself+team, your GPS and an
anticipation of having a blast.

I appreciate you input, and will keep it for consideration.  This idea is
not set in stone, but was discussed and presented to everyone planning this,
and we'll go from there.

Brian
Team A.I.

P.S. You didn't remove all 12-steps.  I showed Tamo one of them, and he
thought it was kind of nutty.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Sparks" <scottsparks1@mchsi.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: 1st Annual Halloween Radioactive


> I am opposed to the "fee for food" idea. I agree the proposed amount is
> very minimal but, when you've got 5 or 6 members on your team, it adds
> up.  In principle, I'm opposed to any cache (or event cache) that
> requires a fee.  It tends to exclude those who are on  fixed or limited
> entertainment budgets. And what about people that just want to cache and
> visit and aren't interested in eating?  Do they have to pay? And if they
> don't, are they allowed to find the cache? And if they are FTF, do they
> have a right to the surplus monies?  I would much rather people just
> bring what food they can.  Maybe you could post a note to (or put in the
> description of)  the cache page what food is needed and how much.
>  People planning on attending can pick something from the list and post
> a note saying they'll bring it.
>
> I'm also uneasy with the idea of putting the excess funds in the cache
> for the FTF.  When money (or a prize) is involved, people tend to get
> very competitive.  Plus, FTF generally goes to whoever shows up first
> and it will become, quite simply, a race to the cache.  Not unlike the
> recent Magellan cache hunt which was a complete farce, IMHO.  I'd rather
> see the excess funds, if there are any, given away in a random drawing.
> At least then everyone would have an equal shot at it.
>
> just my $.02.
>
> -- Sprocket
>
> >After Breakfast Cache #3 today, Tamo, Aus Dem Kasten, CopyCache and =
> >myself met at the location of the October event cache to discuss plans =
> >and introduce the area to a few of those wesssssssssiders who rarely =
> >venture to THAT side of the world.
> >
> >During our discussion, the issue of food came up.  Hopefully to ensure =
> >that we don't end up with seven kinds of Dorito's and a 4oz can of dip, =
> >the following idea was discussed:
> >
> >Charging $2 per adult and $1 for children 3-12 to off-set the cost of =
> >food (we provide).  Any funds left over would be placed in the final =
> >stage of the 1313 Dead End Drive cache as an additional prize for the =
> >FTF team.  Depending on how well this is received, and how many attend, =
> >there could be a decent amount for the FTF!  Of course, no estimates =
> >will be available, as we will not have a solid figure of revenue until =
> >the event.
> >
> >Please let me know what you think of this idea, and whether or not we =
> >should just got back to an alphabet/food type system. =20
> >
> >Brian
> >Team A.I.
> >
>
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 25 14:09:51 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:09:51 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] some fall out from the TB exchange
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User comments:
<B>Dizzam!</B>
if all you AZ 'cachers had logged my bug:
http://www.geocaching.com/track/track_detail.asp?ID=3D12847

it'd be the #1 geocache dollar on www.wheresgeorge.com
sounds like a fun time, but NOBODY found Travelin' George ?




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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 25 14:18:18 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:18:18 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache owners??
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of gas cache, I think that the cache owner needs to keep in mind that =
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purpose it goes to the thought of that looks like a great place for a =
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Mon Aug 25 19:32:58 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] testing again
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Just ignore this, I'm testing to see if I can get any mail through after multiple delivery failure notices.


Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Tue Aug 26 03:16:00 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Ken Henson)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:16:00 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Forest Service Lifts Restrictions
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 27 03:22:22 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Steven Stringham)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:22:22 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott locations - fire danger
In-Reply-To: <7DD6860E-D68D-11D7-99F9-000393A13A32@cableone.net>
References: <20030824162614.29132.h014.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>
 <7DD6860E-D68D-11D7-99F9-000393A13A32@cableone.net>
Message-ID: <2869.172.30.1.10.1061954542.squirrel@www.stringham-family.org>

Sorry for the delayed response.

Thanks for all the suggestions. Trisha, I did the Peavine trail with my
family a few weeks ago. It is a nice trail!

I really do appreciate all your feedback.

StringCachers

> Steven,
>
> Have a look at:
>
> http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/prescott/
>
> Next go to Recreation and then on to Trails.  There are a lot to choose
> from.
>
> Fire info is also available on that web site.
>
> ~ Ken
>
>
> On Sunday, August 24, 2003, at 04:26 PM, Trisha wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, all fire restrictions are lifted. Camping in the
>> urban/interface region is regulated (only in designated campsites)
>> I'd call the FS ahead of time just in case 928-443-8000.
>> Peavine Trail is nice and easy, but not really a backpack experience.
>> Ken (Lincoln) may know of a better backpacking trail (an EASY ONE,
>> Ken!! :-). If all you need is a day hike, Peavine is great, scenic
>> (waterfowl), etc. Access off Prescott Lakes Pkwy and 89 near the
>> Humane Society.
>> Have fun!
>> Trisha "Lightning"
>> Prescott
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:34:13 -0700 (MST), "Steven Stringham" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am planning on taking my scout troop up to the Prescott area for a
>>> campout and hike in early September. So, two questions.
>>>
>>> 1) With the recent rains, what is the fire danger restriction
>> changes?
>>>  Is
>>> it better/ less dry?
>>>
>>> 2) Suggestions on a good 5 mile (easy) hike that my out of shape self
>>> would enjoy with my scouts. I do not have a 4x4 vehicle, so that
>>> restricts
>>> my locations just a bit.
>>>
>>> And, yes, I plan on doing at least just a bit of caching in the
>>> process.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Steven Stringham
>>> StringCachers
>>>
>>>



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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 27 16:36:13 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:36:13 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats page
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Very odd.

Brian
Team A.I.
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 27 16:58:14 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Andrew Ayre)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:58:14 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats page
In-Reply-To: <004001c36cb9$5473ca50$0600a8c0@fbidaemon>
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Maybe we should create a petition to send to groundspeak/grounded
inc/whatever asking them to provide limited backdoor access to the
geocaching.com database for azgeocaching.com? I think it is silly that we
are all freely contributing data to geocaching.com, yet our own local web
site cannot get direct and reliable access to the data to provide services
and features that groundspeak/grounded inc/whatever does not want to
provide. We are not the only ones with this problem. The British version of
azgeocaching.com (geocacheuk.com) also has problems like this.

Anyone interested in this? I think I saw a web site a few months ago where
you can quickly and easily create petitions that people can "sign" online.

Brian, Jason, have you already tried asking for access to the data?
Andy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian
Casteel
  Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:36 AM
  To: AZ Geocaching
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats page


  Wow.  Something definitely happened to the stats again.  Now, everyone has
ONE in-state find, with the rest OOS, and no dates for finds in the 2003
year.

  Very odd.

  Brian
  Team A.I.

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(geocacheuk.com) also has problems like this.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 27 18:03:35 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Jason Poulter)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:03:35 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats page
In-Reply-To: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIGEAEDMAA.andy@britishideas.com>
References: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIGEAEDMAA.andy@britishideas.com>
Message-ID: <3F4CF277.4010308@snaptek.com>

i know the topic came up quite a while back, but dont think anything 
ever came of it...

but ya that would great to get access to the data ... go start up a 
petition i'll sign it


jason


Andrew Ayre wrote:

>Maybe we should create a petition to send to groundspeak/grounded
>inc/whatever asking them to provide limited backdoor access to the
>geocaching.com database for azgeocaching.com? I think it is silly that we
>are all freely contributing data to geocaching.com, yet our own local web
>site cannot get direct and reliable access to the data to provide services
>and features that groundspeak/grounded inc/whatever does not want to
>provide. We are not the only ones with this problem. The British version of
>azgeocaching.com (geocacheuk.com) also has problems like this.
>
>Anyone interested in this? I think I saw a web site a few months ago where
>you can quickly and easily create petitions that people can "sign" online.
>
>Brian, Jason, have you already tried asking for access to the data?
>Andy
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian
>Casteel
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:36 AM
>  To: AZ Geocaching
>  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats page
>
>
>  Wow.  Something definitely happened to the stats again.  Now, everyone has
>ONE in-state find, with the rest OOS, and no dates for finds in the 2003
>year.
>
>  Very odd.
>
>  Brian
>  Team A.I.
>
>  
>



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 27 18:36:51 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:36:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats page
In-Reply-To: <ADENLNCPGOLBMLAAEEJIGEAEDMAA.andy@britishideas.com>
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Someone set it up, and let the listserv know, I'll sign it.

Andrew Ayre <andy@britishideas.com> wrote:Maybe we should create a petition to send to groundspeak/grounded inc/whatever asking them to provide limited backdoor access to the geocaching.com database for azgeocaching.com? I think it is silly that we are all freely contributing data to geocaching.com, yet our own local web site cannot get direct and reliable access to the data to provide services and features that groundspeak/grounded inc/whatever does not want to provide. We are not the only ones with this problem. The British version of azgeocaching.com (geocacheuk.com) also has problems like this.
 
Anyone interested in this? I think I saw a web site a few months ago where you can quickly and easily create petitions that people can "sign" online.
 
Brian, Jason, have you already tried asking for access to the data?

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Brian Casteel
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:36 AM
To: AZ Geocaching
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats page


Wow.  Something definitely happened to the stats again.  Now, everyone has ONE in-state find, with the rest OOS, and no dates for finds in the 2003 year.  
 
Very odd.
 
Brian
Team A.I.



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  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898


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<DIV>Someone set it up, and let the listserv know, I'll sign it.<BR><BR><B><I>Andrew Ayre &lt;andy@britishideas.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=561145316-27082003>Maybe we should create a petition to send to groundspeak/grounded inc/whatever asking them to provide limited backdoor access to the geocaching.com database for azgeocaching.com? I think it&nbsp;is silly that we are all freely&nbsp;contributing data to geocaching.com, yet our own local web site cannot get direct and reliable access to the data to provide services and features that groundspeak/grounded inc/whatever does not want to provide. We are not the only ones with this problem. The British version of azgeocaching.com (geocacheuk.com) also has problems like this.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=561145316-27082003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=561145316-27082003>Anyone interested in this? I think I saw a web site a few months ago where you can quickly and easily create petitions that people can "sign" online.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=561145316-27082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Brian, Jason, have you already tried asking for access to the data?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Andy<BR></FONT></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Brian Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Stats page<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wow.&nbsp; Something definitely happened to the stats again.&nbsp; Now, everyone has ONE in-state find, with the rest OOS, and no dates for finds in the 2003 year.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very odd.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian<BR>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Wed Aug 27 20:06:17 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:06:17 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bugs
Message-ID: <002801c36cd6$ae00e040$d928b83f@fishkiller>

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 28 00:15:02 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:15:02 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page
Message-ID: <20030828001508.LKRD9938.fed1mtao03.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

I see a couple of possiblities for the stats problem...

1.  The folks at Groundspeak are planning on making what we have at AZGeocaching.com apart of the Premium Package.  So they are getting rid of the competition.

2.  AZGeocaching is looking to generate income.  If that's the case, tell me where to send my payment!!!  I think I get more 'bang for my buck' here, than my Premium account at Groundspeak.

3.  Flipper and Mikeytwoshoes hacked the site to make everyone who hasn't, want to go visit this (GCFE) cache.

4.  I no longer exsist.  In which case, this email will probably not make it to the listserv.

Team Snaptek does an excellent job providing us with this wealth of information, and also statistical breakdown of finding Altoid tins, ammo cans, tupperware boxes, and the yellow jeeps of the world.

Since it is coming up on the holiday weekend, if the guys at Team Snaptek want to have a nice relaxing vacation... I personally don't need fixed for the weekend.  Just send me a note with the coordinates of where to deliver the liquid refreshment/adult beverage of your choice for weekend vacation.

Thanks for all the hard work guys.

Jake - Team A.I.



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 28 03:09:51 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:09:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page
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We've been out all afternoon, hitting a couple of caches along the way (and breaking the 200 cache mark!) We wondered if it was possible that azgeocaching.com could be a premium member and get the stats? If so, we'll pay the membership fee for the website (as long as it is $30). About the problem about the MO caches, is it difficult to write code to omit the details for those particular waypoints on the azgeocaching.website?
 
Our thanks to azgeocaching.com for all of their hard work. 

insomniak@cox.net wrote:
I see a couple of possiblities for the stats problem...

1. The folks at Groundspeak are planning on making what we have at AZGeocaching.com apart of the Premium Package. So they are getting rid of the competition.

2. AZGeocaching is looking to generate income. If that's the case, tell me where to send my payment!!! I think I get more 'bang for my buck' here, than my Premium account at Groundspeak.

3. Flipper and Mikeytwoshoes hacked the site to make everyone who hasn't, want to go visit this (GCFE) cache.

4. I no longer exsist. In which case, this email will probably not make it to the listserv.

Team Snaptek does an excellent job providing us with this wealth of information, and also statistical breakdown of finding Altoid tins, ammo cans, tupperware boxes, and the yellow jeeps of the world.

Since it is coming up on the holiday weekend, if the guys at Team Snaptek want to have a nice relaxing vacation... I personally don't need fixed for the weekend. Just send me a note with the coordinates of where to deliver the liquid refreshment/adult beverage of your choice for weekend vacation.

Thanks for all the hard work guys.

Jake - Team A.I.


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  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>We've been out all afternoon, hitting a couple of caches along the way (and breaking the 200 cache mark!) We wondered if it was possible that azgeocaching.com could be a premium member and get the stats? If so, we'll pay the membership fee for the website (as long as it is $30). About the problem about the MO caches, is it difficult to write code to omit the details for those particular waypoints on the azgeocaching.website?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Our thanks to azgeocaching.com for all of their hard work. <BR><BR><B><I>insomniak@cox.net</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I see a couple of possiblities for the stats problem...<BR><BR>1. The folks at Groundspeak are planning on making what we have at AZGeocaching.com apart of the Premium Package. So they are getting rid of the competition.<BR><BR>2. AZGeocaching is looking to generate income. If that's the case, tell me where to send my payment!!! I think I get more 'bang for my buck' here, than my Premium account at Groundspeak.<BR><BR>3. Flipper and Mikeytwoshoes hacked the site to make everyone who hasn't, want to go visit this (GCFE) cache.<BR><BR>4. I no longer exsist. In which case, this email will probably not make it to the listserv.<BR><BR>Team Snaptek does an excellent job providing us with this wealth of information, and also statistical breakdown of finding Altoid tins, ammo cans, tupperware boxes, and the yellow jeeps of the world.<BR><BR>Since it is coming up on the holiday weekend, if the
 guys at Team Snaptek want to have a nice relaxing vacation... I personally don't need fixed for the weekend. Just send me a note with the coordinates of where to deliver the liquid refreshment/adult beverage of your choice for weekend vacation.<BR><BR>Thanks for all the hard work guys.<BR><BR>Jake - Team A.I.<BR><BR><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<BR>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<BR><BR>Arizona's Geocaching Resource<BR>http://www.azgeocaching.com</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#6633cc></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 28 04:42:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 0:42:04 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page
Message-ID: <20030828044214.TZXC15700.fed1mtao02.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

I think that Groundspeak is still making changes that the snaptek gurus are having to be reactive to, rather than proactively keeping up with their tweaks.  Besides the fact that their school systems take precedence over us stat freaks.  :)

As it stands now, my caching is severely curtailed due to fuel prices, and a $350 shop bill to get my truck running right again, so the stats aren't really anything I'm concerned with atm.  

I don't think that Groundspeak is going to come up with anything quite as cool as AZgeocaching in terms of stat tracking, but then again, I'm a creature of habit.

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: insomniak@cox.net
> Date: 2003/08/27 Wed PM 08:15:02 EDT
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page
> 
> I see a couple of possiblities for the stats problem...
> 
> 1.  The folks at Groundspeak are planning on making what we have at AZGeocaching.com apart of the Premium Package.  So they are getting rid of the competition.
> 
> 2.  AZGeocaching is looking to generate income.  If that's the case, tell me where to send my payment!!!  I think I get more 'bang for my buck' here, than my Premium account at Groundspeak.
> 
> 3.  Flipper and Mikeytwoshoes hacked the site to make everyone who hasn't, want to go visit this (GCFE) cache.
> 
> 4.  I no longer exsist.  In which case, this email will probably not make it to the listserv.
> 
> Team Snaptek does an excellent job providing us with this wealth of information, and also statistical breakdown of finding Altoid tins, ammo cans, tupperware boxes, and the yellow jeeps of the world.
> 
> Since it is coming up on the holiday weekend, if the guys at Team Snaptek want to have a nice relaxing vacation... I personally don't need fixed for the weekend.  Just send me a note with the coordinates of where to deliver the liquid refreshment/adult beverage of your choice for weekend vacation.
> 
> Thanks for all the hard work guys.
> 
> Jake - Team A.I.
> 
> 
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> 


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From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (J H/TEAM 360)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:58:50 -0700 (PDT)
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As some of you may know, I have obtained permission from the landowners up in Portland to permanently mount a Geocaching Tribute Plaque on their property, at the site of the very first geocache. The Plaque will be finished any day now. I am flying up to the area on September 6th to do this, and was wondering if anyone would be interested in getting a chance to see the Plaque before it travels up there? Perhaps an evening cache event on Friday the 5th? I am also planning to embed a decon container in the cement underneath the Plaque and would welcome any small signature items or trinkets, notes, etc, that you would like added. Please let me know, this will be the only opportunity to view it before it gets placed at the site and I would like to give all Arizona area geocachers a chance to see it now, in case you never get a chance to go up there to visit the site.
You can email me directly at: team360wwg@yahoo.com
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<DIV>As some of you may know, I have&nbsp;obtained permission from the landowners up in Portland to permanently mount a Geocaching Tribute Plaque on their property, at the site of the very first geocache. The Plaque will be finished any day now. I am flying up to the area on September 6th to do this, and was wondering if anyone would be interested in getting a chance to see the Plaque before it travels up there? Perhaps an evening cache event on Friday the 5th? I am also planning to embed a decon container in the cement underneath the Plaque and would welcome any small signature items or trinkets, notes, etc, that you would like added. Please let me know, this will be the only opportunity to view it before it gets placed at the site and I would like to give all Arizona area geocachers a chance to see it now, in case you never get a chance to go up there to visit the site.</DIV>
<DIV>You can email me directly at: <A href="mailto:team360wwg@yahoo.com">team360wwg@yahoo.com</A></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 28 18:48:04 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Brian Casteel)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:48:04 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] (no subject)
References: <20030828165850.62240.qmail@web20510.mail.yahoo.com>
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I'd love to do an event, but I'm either going to be working or at a LAN =
party the later part of the evening (from 1830 on).  Perhaps you could =
take a digicam pic of it and post online, or give us weird shift worker =
types another opportunity to see it?  I would love to sign something to =
place in the decon container, as I have no signature items as of yet.  =
BTW, how large is the plaque?

Brian
Team A.I.


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  As some of you may know, I have obtained permission from the =
landowners up in Portland to permanently mount a Geocaching Tribute =
Plaque on their property, at the site of the very first geocache. The =
Plaque will be finished any day now. I am flying up to the area on =
September 6th to do this, and was wondering if anyone would be =
interested in getting a chance to see the Plaque before it travels up =
there? Perhaps an evening cache event on Friday the 5th? I am also =
planning to embed a decon container in the cement underneath the Plaque =
and would welcome any small signature items or trinkets, notes, etc, =
that you would like added. Please let me know, this will be the only =
opportunity to view it before it gets placed at the site and I would =
like to give all Arizona area geocachers a chance to see it now, in case =
you never get a chance to go up there to visit the site.
  You can email me directly at: team360wwg@yahoo.com
  Thank you.


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Thu Aug 28 19:16:08 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (J H/TEAM 360)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:16:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] (no subject)
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The Plaque is 8x8, not including the edging...I am going to post an evening cache event for the 5th, from 4-8 p.m., and I will just be somewhere, like a Friday's, with the Plaque if anyone wants to stop on in for a pic with it or drop off an item to put in the decon container, or even sign the back of the Plaque with your team name. If you want to include an item or a note, just make sure its REALLY small, to save room for others as well.
Jeff of TEAM 360.

Brian Casteel <bcasteel@cox.net> wrote:
I'd love to do an event, but I'm either going to be working or at a LAN party the later part of the evening (from 1830 on).  Perhaps you could take a digicam pic of it and post online, or give us weird shift worker types another opportunity to see it?  I would love to sign something to place in the decon container, as I have no signature items as of yet.  BTW, how large is the plaque?
 
Brian
Team A.I.
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: J H/TEAM 360 
To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:58 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] (no subject)


As some of you may know, I have obtained permission from the landowners up in Portland to permanently mount a Geocaching Tribute Plaque on their property, at the site of the very first geocache. The Plaque will be finished any day now. I am flying up to the area on September 6th to do this, and was wondering if anyone would be interested in getting a chance to see the Plaque before it travels up there? Perhaps an evening cache event on Friday the 5th? I am also planning to embed a decon container in the cement underneath the Plaque and would welcome any small signature items or trinkets, notes, etc, that you would like added. Please let me know, this will be the only opportunity to view it before it gets placed at the site and I would like to give all Arizona area geocachers a chance to see it now, in case you never get a chance to go up there to visit the site.
You can email me directly at: team360wwg@yahoo.com
Thank you.


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<DIV>The Plaque is 8x8, not including the edging...I am going to post an evening cache event for the 5th, from 4-8 p.m., and I will just be somewhere, like a Friday's, with the Plaque if anyone wants to stop on in for a pic with it or drop off an item to put in the decon container, or even sign the back of the Plaque with your team name. If you want to include an item or a note, just make sure its REALLY small, to save room for others as well.</DIV>
<DIV>Jeff of TEAM 360.<BR><BR><B><I>Brian Casteel &lt;bcasteel@cox.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'd love to do an event, but I'm either going to be working or at a LAN party the later part of the evening (from 1830 on).&nbsp; Perhaps you could take a digicam pic of it and post online, or give us weird shift worker types another opportunity to see it?&nbsp; I would love to sign something to place in the decon container, as I have no signature items as of yet.&nbsp; BTW, how large is the plaque?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com href="mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:58 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] (no subject)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>As some of you may know, I have&nbsp;obtained permission from the landowners up in Portland to permanently mount a Geocaching Tribute Plaque on their property, at the site of the very first geocache. The Plaque will be finished any day now. I am flying up to the area on September 6th to do this, and was wondering if anyone would be interested in getting a chance to see the Plaque before it travels up there? Perhaps an evening cache event on Friday the 5th? I am also planning to embed a decon container in the cement underneath the Plaque and would welcome any small signature items or trinkets, notes, etc, that you would like added. Please let me know, this will be the only opportunity to view it before it gets placed at the site and I would like to give all Arizona area geocachers a chance to see it now, in case you never get a chance to go up there to visit the site.</DIV>
<DIV>You can email me directly at: <A href="mailto:team360wwg@yahoo.com">team360wwg@yahoo.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>Thank you.</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 29 01:02:16 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (RAND HARDIN)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:02:16 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Breakfast Cache #3 TBs
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Aug 28th, 6:00 P.M.
As of this writing there are still 18 travel bugs listed in the Breakfast=
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ent need to check their inventory to make sure that they still have them.=
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 29 03:46:25 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:46:25 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Breakfast Cache #3 TBs
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I noticed that too.  I only worried about logging what I actually took, and the 2 TBs I did physically take with me that day.  Wonder what other people are doing...

Brian
Team A.I.
> 
> From: "RAND HARDIN" <RHrdn8@msn.com>
> Date: 2003/08/28 Thu PM 09:02:16 EDT
> To: "AZ-Geocaching" <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Breakfast Cache #3 TBs
> 
> RE:  Breakfast Cache #3 (GCGDBH)   
> http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=78387  
> 
> Aug 28th, 6:00 P.M.
> As of this writing there are still 18 travel bugs listed in the Breakfast Cache #3 event cache.  Those who physically took travel bugs from the event need to check their inventory to make sure that they still have them.  There were a lot of cachers who just recorded the numbers and actually didn't physically take the bugs  (they may have removed the bugs out of the inventory of those who actually took them).
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 29 07:09:08 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:09:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] important park geocaching info.
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I came across this in the forums. This seemed too important to pass by without posting a link here.
 
http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4016058331&m=54360318


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<DIV>I came across this in the forums. This seemed too important to pass by without posting a link here.</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 29 07:13:39 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] travel bugs
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Can someone help this bug owner?
 
http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=4416058331&m=47460218


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<DIV>Can someone help this bug owner?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 29 16:19:37 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:19:37 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott visit
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Message-ID: <00b501c36e49$574ae560$1e01a8c0@connie>

Hi all,
Just wanted to let the Prescott people know that we will be up there this
weekend. Actually Larry is already up there. He and his dad have been
geocaching the last couple of days already. We will be at the courthouse
Saturday evening at the square dance in the plaza around 7pm if anyone wants
to stop and say hi.
Hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable Labor Day weekend!
--Connie
Team "Wyle E"



From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 29 16:56:01 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill Tomlinson)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:56:01 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page
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Gale & Mike,
 
A belated congrats on reaching the 200 mark!!  That's a big achievement.  
 
CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson

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Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page


We've been out all afternoon, hitting a couple of caches along the way (and
breaking the 200 cache mark!) We wondered if it was possible that
azgeocaching.com could be a premium member and get the stats? If so, we'll
pay the membership fee for the website (as long as it is $30). About the
problem about the MO caches, is it difficult to write code to omit the
details for those particular waypoints on the azgeocaching.website?
 


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 29 17:31:18 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (listserv@azgeocaching.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:31:18 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] travel bugs
Message-ID: <6F0FB8E5.60B2E16B.0013DAD2@aol.com>

I saw that bug last weekend. I am heading up to that area again this weekend. i f I drive near it i will grab him and put him somewhere else.

Cameron

From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Fri Aug 29 23:34:07 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Gale Draper)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:34:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page
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Thank you. It is a big deal to us. This Sunday is the first anniversary of our first cache find, the Pueblo Grande Event Cache. One of our most memorable caches was your Crocodile Hunter where we found our first geocoin.

Bill Tomlinson <billtomlinson@qwest.net> wrote:Gale & Mike,
 
A belated congrats on reaching the 200 mark!!  That's a big achievement.  
 
CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson

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Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:10 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page


We've been out all afternoon, hitting a couple of caches along the way (and breaking the 200 cache mark!) We wondered if it was possible that azgeocaching.com could be a premium member and get the stats? If so, we'll pay the membership fee for the website (as long as it is $30). About the problem about the MO caches, is it difficult to write code to omit the details for those particular waypoints on the azgeocaching.website?
 



Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

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<DIV>Thank you. It is a big deal to us. This Sunday is the first anniversary of our first cache find, the Pueblo Grande Event Cache. One of our most memorable caches was your Crocodile Hunter where we found our first geocoin.<BR><BR><B><I>Bill Tomlinson &lt;billtomlinson@qwest.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN class=322165416-29082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=322165416-29082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>A belated congrats on reaching the 200 mark!!&nbsp; That's a big achievement.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=322165416-29082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=322165416-29082003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Gale Draper<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:10 PM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>We've been out all afternoon, hitting a couple of caches along the way (and breaking the 200 cache mark!) We wondered if it was possible that azgeocaching.com could be a premium member and get the stats? If so, we'll pay the membership fee for the website (as long as it is $30). About the problem about the MO caches, is it difficult to write code to omit the details for those particular waypoints on the azgeocaching.website?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV><FONT color=#6633cc>Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes<BR>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<BR>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<BR>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</FONT></DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 03:18:38 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (J H/TEAM 360)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:18:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] (no subject)
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To anyone who doesn't have a life (like me) and would like to pump up their cache numbers this weekend:
I am going to travel up to Wickenberg on Sunday to go on a cache-finding frenzy. As it stands as of this posting, I will need about 20 finds to break 100 cache-finds for the month, and this will also put me over the 200 total-found mark. If anyone else wants to go along, drop me an email at team360wwg@yahoo.com. Be warned, I will be leaving the Phoenix area early (I do mean EARLY). This isn't going to be a sightseeing tour and I am not stopping at any Antiques shops. I will be hitting as many caches as quickly as I can, in and out and no stopping until I get enough of them. (I looked, there are over 50 easy ones, all close to each other and most of them under a Level 2 terrain rating). A quick lunch afterwards and back to the Valley as fast as I can.
 


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<DIV>I am going to travel up to Wickenberg on Sunday to go on a cache-finding frenzy. As it stands as of this posting, I will need about 20 finds to break 100 cache-finds for the month, and this will also put me over the 200 total-found mark. If anyone else wants to go along, drop me an email at <A href="mailto:team360wwg@yahoo.com">team360wwg@yahoo.com</A>. Be warned, I will be leaving the Phoenix area early (I do mean EARLY). This isn't going to be a sightseeing tour and I am not stopping at any Antiques shops. I will be hitting as many caches as quickly as I can, in and out and no stopping until I get enough of them. (I looked, there are over 50 easy ones, all close to each other and most of them under a Level 2 terrain rating). A quick lunch afterwards and back to the Valley as fast as I can.</DIV>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 03:49:03 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:49:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott visit
Message-ID: <20030829204903.11781.h004.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

Hi Connie, Larry....
Well, we'd love to come down to the courthouse and meet up with you,
but we will be down in Phoenix Saturday for the DBacks game! (and
taking a travel bug from Utah to the game, that is it's goal...) We
will pick up a few easier caches while we are down in the valley, too.
Take care, everybody, on this holiday weekend!
Trisha & Dan
Lightning
Prescott




On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:19:37 -0700, connie.farquhar@cox.net wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> Just wanted to let the Prescott people know that we will be up there
> this
> weekend. Actually Larry is already up there. He and his dad have been
> geocaching the last couple of days already. We will be at the
> courthouse
> Saturday evening at the square dance in the plaza around 7pm if
anyone
> wants
> to stop and say hi.
> Hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable Labor Day weekend!
> --Connie
> Team "Wyle E"
> 
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 04:06:41 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:06:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page
Message-ID: <20030829210642.18427.h004.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

CONGRATS Gale and Mike! 

I think 200 is quite the achievement (as I creep towards that mark
myself....)

Saturday's trip to the DBacks game will include the mandatory
along-the-way & after-the-game caching...we may get closer to 200
ourselves (that's 200 total, not just AZ finds)

Take care,
Trisha & Dan



On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:34:07 -0700 (PDT), Gale Draper wrote:

Thank you. It is a big deal to us. This Sunday is the first
anniversary of our first cache find, the Pueblo Grande Event Cache.
One of our most memorable caches was your Crocodile Hunter where we
found our first geocoin.Bill Tomlinson <billtomlinson@qwest.net> wrote:


Gale & Mike,
 
A belated congrats on reaching the 200 mark!!  That's a big
achievement.  
 
CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson


-----Original Message-----From:
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
Gale DraperSent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:10 PMTo:
listserv@azgeocaching.comSubject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats page
We've been out all afternoon, hitting a couple of caches along the way
(and breaking the 200 cache mark!) We wondered if it was possible that
azgeocaching.com could be a premium member and get the stats? If so,
we'll pay the membership fee for the website (as long as it is $30).
About the problem about the MO caches, is it difficult to write code
to omit the details for those particular waypoints on the
azgeocaching.website?
 Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes  On one
everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:"Something hidden. 
Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --  "Something lost
behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 04:14:23 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Trisha)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:14:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] travel bugs
Message-ID: <20030829211423.14157.h004.c000.wm@mail.brasher.com.criticalpath.net>

There are 4 of the "Racing Belgian Travel Bugs" left up in Witness
Post....Ten started, Lincoln moved 5 down to Prescott area and they
have moved on....Bbudcam, I believe, moved one recently....so anybody
getting up that way near Seligman, please feel free to move these bugs
along...west, east...whatever!
Trisha Prescott



On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:31:18 -0400, BBUDCAM@aol.com wrote:

> 
> I saw that bug last weekend. I am heading up to that area again this
> weekend. i f I drive near it i will grab him and put him somewhere
> else.
> 
> Cameron
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 07:27:09 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Randy Kinkel)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 00:27:09 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing!  Now what do I do?
Message-ID: <000501c36ec8$1ffd14a0$6401a8c0@ph.cox.net>

I need advice from  Geocaching veterans----
My cache, "It's a Duck's life" has turned up missing.  what's the
standard procedure now?  Should I replace it in the same area?
I'm hesitant to do that for fear the same thing will happen
again... maybe I should find another location within the park
that's a little more out of the way...what do YOU do in this
situation?

Mozartman


From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 12:36:32 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:36:32 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] (no subject)
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All right that does it Wickenburg trips are off limits do not post that =
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I have to work



Wait I have Sunday off but since I start work at 10 pm Saturday I won't =
get off until 6am thus the leaving early is out of the question


so back to my rant=20


I would love to go but)&*^(*^%&^$%(&%$(&%^)*^)^ timing again })*(_())() =
think gravity :)

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  To anyone who doesn't have a life (like me) and would like to pump up =
their cache numbers this weekend:
  I am going to travel up to Wickenberg on Sunday to go on a =
cache-finding frenzy. As it stands as of this posting, I will need about =
20 finds to break 100 cache-finds for the month, and this will also put =
me over the 200 total-found mark. If anyone else wants to go along, drop =
me an email at team360wwg@yahoo.com. Be warned, I will be leaving the =
Phoenix area early (I do mean EARLY). This isn't going to be a =
sightseeing tour and I am not stopping at any Antiques shops. I will be =
hitting as many caches as quickly as I can, in and out and no stopping =
until I get enough of them. (I looked, there are over 50 easy ones, all =
close to each other and most of them under a Level 2 terrain rating). A =
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From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:52:27 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing!  Now what do I do?
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replace at same location,  then if I remember correctly there was no magnet
or Velcro involved, you might consider that as well.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Kinkel" <ark45@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:27 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing! Now what do I do?


> I need advice from  Geocaching veterans----
> My cache, "It's a Duck's life" has turned up missing.  what's the
> standard procedure now?  Should I replace it in the same area?
> I'm hesitant to do that for fear the same thing will happen
> again... maybe I should find another location within the park
> that's a little more out of the way...what do YOU do in this
> situation?
>
> Mozartman
>
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:51:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Batteries
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 15:52:30 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Randy Kinkel)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:52:30 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing!  Now what do I do?
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Thanks for the advice, Gale and Regan!

there was velcro and it is still there, but not the cache itself.
from the last cacher's "found it" note, some kids at the park may
have seen him replacing the cache.  IF they are regulars at the
park, I don't want to put it back in the same place for them to
do the same thing again.  I think I'll try to find a slightly
different location. for now it's disabled.

"Mozartman"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Regan L Smith" <buggers@mindspring.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing! Now what do I do?


> replace at same location,  then if I remember correctly there
was no magnet
> or Velcro involved, you might consider that as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randy Kinkel" <ark45@cox.net>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:27 AM
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing! Now what do I do?
>
>
> > I need advice from  Geocaching veterans----
> > My cache, "It's a Duck's life" has turned up missing.  what's
the
> > standard procedure now?  Should I replace it in the same
area?
> > I'm hesitant to do that for fear the same thing will happen
> > again... maybe I should find another location within the park
> > that's a little more out of the way...what do YOU do in this
> > situation?
> >
> > Mozartman
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________
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> >
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 16:06:37 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Bill)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:06:37 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Batteries
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If you are a Costco member, the Kirtland (Costco house brand) batteries =
come in a 48 pack (12 4-packs) for $10 or $12.  I have found them to be =
every bit as good as the "major" brands, and are undoubtedly made by one =
of the major companies.  Since they only sell Kirtland and Duracell, =
Duracell would be my guess.

Bill
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  Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:51 AM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Batteries


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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sat Aug 30 15:53:44 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Randy Kinkel)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:53:44 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing!  Now what do I do?
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The bummer is, it was my first cache placed and I wanted to save
the logsheet!
Mozartman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Regan L Smith" <buggers@mindspring.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing! Now what do I do?


> replace at same location,  then if I remember correctly there
was no magnet
> or Velcro involved, you might consider that as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randy Kinkel" <ark45@cox.net>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:27 AM
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing! Now what do I do?
>
>
> > I need advice from  Geocaching veterans----
> > My cache, "It's a Duck's life" has turned up missing.  what's
the
> > standard procedure now?  Should I replace it in the same
area?
> > I'm hesitant to do that for fear the same thing will happen
> > again... maybe I should find another location within the park
> > that's a little more out of the way...what do YOU do in this
> > situation?
> >
> > Mozartman
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
> >
http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
> >
> > Arizona's Geocaching Resource
> > http://www.azgeocaching.com
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 31 14:09:18 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:09:18 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing!  Now what do I do?
References: <000501c36ec8$1ffd14a0$6401a8c0@ph.cox.net> <003301c36ef5$92137f20$52084bab@fishkiller> <000401c36f0e$b88ed6e0$6401a8c0@ph.cox.net>
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A Thought about Regulars,

I went to revisit Team Evil Fish's Nearly in Harmony, which by all means has
been raided by the regulars and I think on a regular basis they do trade
items and it pretty well sits right there, yes the container has changed
over the original but the cache sit in the same spot as when it was
placed... That being said I feel that you should just replace the cache in
the same spot...the being spotted by people in the park happens with all
caches at one time or another..
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Kinkel" <ark45@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing! Now what do I do?


> Thanks for the advice, Gale and Regan!
>
> there was velcro and it is still there, but not the cache itself.
> from the last cacher's "found it" note, some kids at the park may
> have seen him replacing the cache.  IF they are regulars at the
> park, I don't want to put it back in the same place for them to
> do the same thing again.  I think I'll try to find a slightly
> different location. for now it's disabled.
>
> "Mozartman"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Regan L Smith" <buggers@mindspring.com>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing! Now what do I do?
>
>
> > replace at same location,  then if I remember correctly there
> was no magnet
> > or Velcro involved, you might consider that as well.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Randy Kinkel" <ark45@cox.net>
> > To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:27 AM
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cache missing! Now what do I do?
> >
> >
> > > I need advice from  Geocaching veterans----
> > > My cache, "It's a Duck's life" has turned up missing.  what's
> the
> > > standard procedure now?  Should I replace it in the same
> area?
> > > I'm hesitant to do that for fear the same thing will happen
> > > again... maybe I should find another location within the park
> > > that's a little more out of the way...what do YOU do in this
> > > situation?
> > >
> > > Mozartman
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________
> > > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
> > >
> http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching
> > >
> > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource
> > > http://www.azgeocaching.com
> >
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> > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:
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> >
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> > http://www.azgeocaching.com
> >
>
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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 31 19:44:11 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Joe Brekke)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:44:11 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hogans Hotel
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who tried to sell the Condo where Bob Crane was killed on eBay.  Jist of =
the article is that they didn't have any takers.

However at the end of the article is a quite humorous little tidbit, and =
I quote:

"The Herbsts also occasionally saw sightseers wandering around outside, =
sometimes taking photos.  Still, no one ever knocked on the door or =
called."  "You know, we've never had that (happen) since we bought the =
place,"  she said.

I think I may know who some of those people were...in fact I do know =
that 1 group on July 12th was my son Brad and I.

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From listserv@azgeocaching.com  Sun Aug 31 20:05:06 2003
From: listserv@azgeocaching.com (Regan L Smith)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:05:06 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hogans Hotel
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Yes I thought the same thing but was to tired to member the quote.
Thank you for posting it :)


Team Evil Fish has a camera and not afraid to use it
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 12:44 PM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hogans Hotel


  In the East Valley Tribune today, there is an article about the couple =
who tried to sell the Condo where Bob Crane was killed on eBay.  Jist of =
the article is that they didn't have any takers.

  However at the end of the article is a quite humorous little tidbit, =
and I quote:

  "The Herbsts also occasionally saw sightseers wandering around =
outside, sometimes taking photos.  Still, no one ever knocked on the =
door or called."  "You know, we've never had that (happen) since we =
bought the place,"  she said.

  I think I may know who some of those people were...in fact I do know =
that 1 group on July 12th was my son Brad and I.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for posting it =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  Hotel</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the <EM>East Valley Tribune</EM> =
today, there=20
  is an article about the couple who tried to sell the Condo where Bob =
Crane was=20
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  takers.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However at the end of the article is =
a quite=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"The Herbsts also occasionally saw =
sightseers=20
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ever=20
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