[Az-Geocaching] to CHICKS with TRUCKS - and all
MARK STOUT
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You go chicks,
I myself just got into this "HOBBY" and signed up for this mailing list =
because I thought I might pick up some tips or new caches going out, but =
instead find myself already soured by the simple fact that there are =
those out there that feel they have the right to self-appoint themselves =
or administer "their" rules on something that most are doing for fun and =
relaxation. I myself look for caches while I'm out riding my bike and =
the more that are out there, the more I have to choose from. To hell =
with those that think that they are some how ordained to be the =
Geo-cache kings and can proclaim what goes out there in a cache (as long =
as if abides by the law). I applaud you C w/ T, you have embraced the =
true essence of what this is all about - FUN!!!!!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: trisha@brasher.com=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] to CHICKS with TRUCKS - and all
Dear Chicks with Trucks, and list serv: I am not criticizing you, C w/ =
T....I like "easier" caches for medical reasons too. I just want to =
point out something to those who have been on this list for awhile, as =
it seems to either be a change in Jeremy (cache-approval dept) or a =
double standard: (C w/ T: this happened before you were on the list, I =
think, so please bear with me) How many remember when Lincoln was =
"admonished" a few months back, directly by Jeremy in an email (that =
Lincoln posted to the list) for having "too many caches, too close =
together"? His caches were, in reality, not that close together due to =
the often difficult terrain up in the Prescott Nat'l Forest, which is =
not readily apparent to someone looking at a map program in Oregon or =
wherever Jeremy lives. Lincoln was specifically asked by Jeremy to =
remove some of his caches and, if I can speak for you, Ken, it was not a =
nice feeling. Just wondered if maybe Jeremy changed his tune and decided =
to approve any and all?? I apologize in advance if someone else has =
already posted this in the past couple days, I haven't read all of my =
inbox. In general, my opinion is: stick to common sense. It is a game, =
but if any particular area gets over-saturated, that means alot of =
foot/vehicle traffic which could lead to being noticed in a bad way, and =
possibly bans by various governing authorities. I'm not speaking of any =
Team or any cache in particular. Let's just keep our wits about this =
issue and think responsibly. (A general comment, not saying anybody is =
witless or irresponsible) Peace, Trisha "Lightning" Prescott On Sun, 22 =
September 2002, PixceeDust@aol.com wrote:=20
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This is going to be our one and only post that you will ever see from =
us on this site. We are in this for fun, not politics and debates. =20
There are several points we would like to make:=20
1. Most importantly, this is a game!=20
2. If our caches meet the requirements set by geocaching.com that is =
ALL that matters.=20
3. We do not do this for stats. We don't now, nor will we ever. =20
4. We see this as a game of "hide and seek". We will continue to =
hide and to seek. If those numbers are a close ratio, we don't care.=20
5. We will continue to hide as many caches as we want and where we =
want so long as geocaching.com continues to approve them.=20
6. We maintain ALL our caches and will only place them in locations =
we are willing to go back to for the purpose of maintainence.=20
7. If for ANY reason you don't care for our caches, DON'T GO TO THEM. =
For a BRIEF explaination of why we place them where we do (not that it =
is ANYONES business), none of us are into long hikes for different =
reasons. Some simply don't like to hike and another has medical =
restrictions. For those reasons, we prefer easy walks and drive-bys. =
We appreciate other easy caches and we know there are other people out =
there with diabilities, limitations, young children, etc who do =
appreciate us hiding easy ones. We are not offended or upset that we =
can't or don't want to go to a top of a mountain to find a cache. We =
simply don't do it and certainly do not critisize anyone for placing =
them there. We expect the same respect from others. If we want your =
opinion, we will ask for it. If you find a REAL problem with one of our =
caches (such as damage, a filled up log book, a missing cache or =
something similar) then of course, let us know.=20
We thank everyone who has given us support through this ordeal and =
look forward to running into you on cache hunt.=20
-Chicks with Trucks=20
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make a brand new start,
Anyone can start from now and
make a brand new ending."
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You go chicks,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I myself just got into this =
"HOBBY" and signed=20
up for this mailing list because I thought I might pick up some tips or =
new=20
caches going out, but instead find myself already soured by the simple =
fact that=20
there are those out there that feel they have the right to self-appoint=20
themselves or administer "their" rules on something that=20
<U><STRONG>most</STRONG></U> are doing for fun and relaxation. I =
myself=20
look for caches while I'm out riding my bike and the more that are out =
there,=20
the more I have to choose from. To hell with those that think that =
they=20
are some how ordained to be the Geo-cache kings and can proclaim what =
goes out=20
there in a cache (as long as if abides by the law). I applaud you =
C w/ T,=20
you have embraced the true essence of what this is all about -=20
FUN!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dtrisha@brasher.com=20
href=3D"mailto:trisha@brasher.com">trisha@brasher.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 23, =
2002 3:35=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] to =
CHICKS=20
with TRUCKS - and all</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Chicks with Trucks, and list serv: I am not =
criticizing=20
you, C w/ T....I like "easier" caches for medical reasons too. I just =
want to=20
point out something to those who have been on this list for awhile, as =
it=20
seems to either be a change in Jeremy (cache-approval dept) or a =
double=20
standard: (C w/ T: this happened before you were on the list, I think, =
so=20
please bear with me) How many remember when Lincoln was "admonished" a =
few=20
months back, directly by Jeremy in an email (that Lincoln posted to =
the list)=20
for having "too many caches, too close together"? His caches were, in =
reality,=20
not that close together due to the often difficult terrain up in the =
Prescott=20
Nat'l Forest, which is not readily apparent to someone looking at a =
map=20
program in Oregon or wherever Jeremy lives. Lincoln was specifically =
asked by=20
Jeremy to remove some of his caches and, if I can speak for you, Ken, =
it was=20
not a nice feeling. Just wondered if maybe Jeremy changed his tune and =
decided=20
to approve any and all?? I apologize in advance if someone else has =
already=20
posted this in the past couple days, I haven't read all of my inbox. =
In=20
general, my opinion is: stick to common sense. It is a game, but if =
any=20
particular area gets over-saturated, that means alot of foot/vehicle =
traffic=20
which could lead to being noticed in a bad way, and possibly bans by =
various=20
governing authorities. I'm not speaking of any Team or any cache in=20
particular. Let's just keep our wits about this issue and think =
responsibly.=20
(A general comment, not saying anybody is witless or irresponsible) =
Peace,=20
Trisha "Lightning" Prescott On Sun, 22 September 2002, =
PixceeDust@aol.com=20
wrote: <BR>
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<P><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#ff00ff=20
size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT">This is going to be our one and only post =
that you will=20
ever see from us on this site. We are in this for fun, not =
politics and=20
debates. <BR><BR>There are several points we would like to =
make:=20
<BR><BR>1. <B>Most importantly, this is a game! </B><BR>2. If our =
caches meet=20
the requirements set by geocaching.com that is ALL that matters. =
<BR>3.=20
We do not do this for stats. We don't now, nor will we =
ever.=20
<BR>4. We see this as a game of "hide and seek". We =
will=20
continue to hide and to seek. If those numbers are a close =
ratio, we=20
don't care. <BR>5. We will continue to hide as many caches as we =
want=20
and where we want so long as geocaching.com continues to approve them. =
<BR>6.=20
We maintain ALL our caches and will only place them in locations =
we are=20
willing to go back to for the purpose of maintainence. <BR>7. If =
for ANY=20
reason you don't care for our caches, DON'T GO TO THEM. <BR><BR>For a =
BRIEF=20
explaination of why we place them where we do (not that it is ANYONES=20
business), none of us are into long hikes for different reasons. =
Some=20
simply don't like to hike and another has medical restrictions. =
For=20
those reasons, we prefer easy walks and drive-bys. We appreciate =
other=20
easy caches and we know there are other people out there with =
diabilities,=20
limitations, young children, etc who do appreciate us hiding easy =
ones.=20
We are not offended or upset that we can't or don't want to go =
to a top=20
of a mountain to find a cache. We simply don't do it and =
certainly do=20
not critisize anyone for placing them there. We expect the same =
respect=20
from others. If we want your opinion, we will ask for it. =
If you=20
find a REAL problem with one of our caches (such as damage, a filled =
up log=20
book, a missing cache or something similar) then of course, let us =
know.=20
<BR><BR>We thank everyone who has given us support through this ordeal =
and=20
look forward to running into you on cache hunt. <BR><BR>-Chicks with=20
Trucks</FONT>=20
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make a brand new start,
Anyone can start from now and
make a brand new ending."
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