[Az-Geocaching] Question about a survey answer

[Bell, Robert]

When I feel I've given it enough time and have basically
given up, I'll post a no find log.  If the cache is gone and 
I didn't find it, I post a note (can't find or not find 
what's not there!) I used to remove the no find and replace 
with a find once I went back, but I don't do that anymore.  
Luckily I haven't had any no finds on caches that were actually 
there in quite a while.   

Once I started hiding caches I realized no finds helped the 
cache owner determine the cache status a lot more easily. In
fact, a lack of no finds on the stats list makes me suspicious that
that person isn't logging theirs!

my $.02

Rob
Team CHUMP

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Sever [mailto:justinsever@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 15:13
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Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Question about a survey answer


Here is how I distinguish between posting a no-find and a note.   

I post a note if I don't give it a through search or don't actually make
it to the cache location (people in the area, or some other
circumstance).  If I actually look for the cache and can't find it, then
I post a no-find.   I always post something though, each and every cache
that I go to, wither I'm able to search for it or not.  

-Frobro Goose

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[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
Brent Milner
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:46 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Question about a survey answer


Hi Scott,

That is an interesting question. I must admit that I would rather not
have a "no find" on my record if I can help it. I like seeing that 100%
ratio in the team stats for finds vs. no-finds.

I didn't really think about it much until you posed the question. I
guess I just assumed that a no-find would be a failure on my part. I can
see what you're saying. There's nothing wrong with posting a no-find,
and in many cases it helps the cache owner and others who may be
searching for it. By posting a no-find, it may alert the cache owner
that the cache is gone. It may also prevent others from wasting their
time looking for a missing cache.

The very worst it can do is to humble you temporarily. The world needs
more humble people anyway. :)

Thanks for opening my eyes to this point. I will not be so biased
towards my own "success" in the future if I cannot find a cache.

- FroBro Q-Tip


-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Scott
Wood
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:20 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question about a survey answer


I have been reading the survey responses and many of them are quite
interesting.  One question has come up though.

It seems that there are 2 normal answers to the question about how many
times you look before posting a no-find log.  It seems that the answers
are either 1 or 3.  I understand the 1, but don't really understand 3.
You don't wait until you find a cache 3 times before you log it as a
found cache, so why wait until 3 if you can't find it when you go
hunting?

This goes hand in hand with a question that I asked a number of months
ago about no-find logs.  Many people won't post no-find logs but will
post a note saying that they couldn't find the cache.  Why is this?  Do
you look at not being able to find the cache as some sort of failure?

Thanks for posting the survey, it has been very interesting to read
everyone replies.

In liberty,

Scott

wood@myblueheaven.com
www.myblueheaven.com

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