[Az-Geocaching] Re: What have we learned?

Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:42:26 -0700

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I seem to remember a post by Wyle E about the different types of public land
and the requirements to use each one.  I checked the listserv archive and it
went something like this:

By: "Larry Farquhar" 
Subject: [1022] Land Permits

These are permits I'm aware of to access OUR land in Arizona:

BLM land - no permit required. Just abide by trail and road closure signs.
14 day free camping allowed in most areas.

Indian Reservations - Each reservation has their own rules and possible
permits required for access to their land. Contact the appropriate Indian
Reservation for their specific requirements.

Arizona State Trust Land - A recreational permit is required if accessing
State Trust Land for other than hunting (hunting permit is valid) or just
passing through. An annual permit is $15 for individual, or $20 for a
family. This allows you access to most State Trust Land for recreational
use, including Camping (7 day limit), Horseback riding, Off Highway,
Photography, Picnicking, Hiking, and Bicycling. $500 (max) fine if caught
without a permit. Most areas, even those marked "No trespassing" can be
accessed with this permit. Along with the permit comes a list of areas that
are closed. Permits can be obtained by mail or in person at: Arizona State
Trust Land Department, 1616 W. Adams, Phoenix, AZ, 85007 (might try
602-542-7235). Tucson also has an office (address unknown).

Forest Service - The Bull-Dog Canyon Off-Highway Area (Tonto National
Forest) is an area that requires a permit to operate a motorized vehicle in
the area. Hiking and camping are allowed without a permit. Permits are free,
and are good for 6 months. $5000 (max) fine if caught driving in the area
without a permit. The permit provides you with the combination to the gates
for 6 months (combo is changed each month). Permits can be obtained ONLY at:
Mesa Ranger District Office, 26 N. MacDonald, Mesa, AZ 85201 (480-610-3300 -
call first, as they have weird office hours). Permits might be obtained by
mail - call them.

Barry M. Goldwater Range/Cabeza Preita National Wildlife Refuge/Area A
portion of Sonoran Desert National Monument - A permit is required for ANY
access (foot or vehicle) to this area, also known as "El Camino Del Diablo"
(see cache GC294C
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10572). The permit is
free and good from July through June. See cache GC294C for further details
and where permits can be obtained.

There might be other permits available, but these are the ones I'm aware of
and have obtained the last 3.

Anybody know of others?

Larry Farquhar
Team "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pinnell [mailto:rpinnell909@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:26 PM
To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: What have we learned?

>I would like to see some
>helpful guidelines to geocaching in arizona, complete with phonenumbers
>and locations to buy permits, what specific things the different land
>management entities would like us to do and not do.

This would be great for us newbies.

Team Gizmo

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<DIV>I seem 
to remember a post by Wyle E about the different types of public land and the 
requirements to use each one.&nbsp; I checked the listserv&nbsp;archive and it 
went something like this:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>By: "Larry Farquhar" Subject: 
[1022] Land Permits These are permits I'm aware of to access OUR 
land in Arizona: BLM land - no permit required. Just abide by trail and 
road closure signs. 14 day free camping allowed in most areas. Indian 
Reservations - Each reservation has their own rules and possible permits 
required for access to their land. Contact the appropriate Indian Reservation 
for their specific requirements. Arizona State Trust Land - A 
recreational permit is required if accessing State Trust Land for other than 
hunting (hunting permit is valid) or just passing through. An annual permit 
is $15 for individual, or $20 for a family. This allows you access to most 
State Trust Land for recreational use, including Camping (7 day limit), 
Horseback riding, Off Highway, Photography, Picnicking, Hiking, and 
Bicycling. $500 (max) fine if caught without a permit. Most areas, even those 
marked "No trespassing" can be accessed with this permit. Along with the 
permit comes a list of areas that are closed. Permits can be obtained by mail 
or in person at: Arizona State Trust Land Department, 1616 W. Adams, Phoenix, AZ, 85007 (might 
try 602-542-7235). Tucson also has an office (address unknown). Forest 
Service - The Bull-Dog Canyon Off-Highway Area (Tonto National Forest) is an 
area that requires a permit to operate a motorized vehicle in the area. 
Hiking and camping are allowed without a permit. Permits are free, and are 
good for 6 months. $5000 (max) fine if caught driving in the area without a 
permit. The permit provides you with the combination to the gates for 6 
months (combo is changed each month). Permits can be obtained ONLY at: Mesa 
Ranger District Office, 26 N. MacDonald, Mesa, AZ 85201 (480-610-3300 - call 
first, as they have weird office hours). Permits might be obtained by mail - 
call them. Barry M. Goldwater Range/Cabeza Preita National Wildlife 
Refuge/Area A portion of Sonoran Desert National Monument - A permit is 
required for ANY access (foot or vehicle) to this area, also known as "El 
Camino Del Diablo" (see cache 
GC294C http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10572). The permit 
is free and good from July through June. See cache GC294C for further 
details and where permits can be obtained. There might be other 
permits available, but these are the ones I'm aware of and have obtained the 
last 3. Anybody know of others? Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle 
E" www.azjeeper.com </DIV>
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 <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: Richard Pinnell 
 [mailto:rpinnell909@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:26 
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 [Az-Geocaching] Re: What have we learned? </DIV>
 <DIV>&gt;I would like to see some &gt;helpful 
 guidelines to geocaching in arizona, complete with phonenumbers &gt;and 
 locations to buy permits, what specific things the different 
 land &gt;management entities would like us to do and not 
 do. </DIV>
 <DIV>This would be great for us newbies.</DIV>
 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV>Team Gizmo</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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