[Az-Geocaching] It's not as bad as we have been told

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I need the State Trust land permit info, too....forgot to write it
down last time and deleted the email DUH....can't you do it by mail?
Or, how close to Prescott?
Thanks in advance
Trisha "Lightning"


On Tue, 20 August 2002, "Ken" wrote:

> 
> I have a question about the land permits? How does one supposed to
> know if
> they are on State trust land if it is not posted? I know around the
> Phoenix
> area there are several sites that are clearly marked with signs and
> fencing
> that clearly define the property as State trust land. When riding out
> to
> plant "A Sign From the Past III"  I saw no such signs
prohibiting
> entry, or
> any other indication that the land around Lake Pleasant is trust
land.
> 
> In order to be charged with trespassing the following critera must be
> met:
> 
> 13-1502. Criminal trespass in the third degree; classification
> A. A person commits criminal trespass in the third degree by:
> 
> 1. Knowingly entering or remaining unlawfully on any real property
> after a
> reasonable request to leave by the owner or any other person having
> lawful
> control over such property, or reasonable notice prohibiting entry.
> 
> Now that I have reason to know that this area is State trust land I
> guess I
> will have to go get my permit before I can go back to check the site.
> I know
> that this has been posted before but could someone tell me where to
go
> to
> get the permit or if it can be done by mail? Hopefully the only place
> won't
> be in downtown Phoenix. As a gesture of good faith maby it could be
> posted
> on the website along with the other geocaching resources.
> 
> Brian could you send me Brads phone number so I could make
> arraingments to
> pick up the cache?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> WhereRWee?
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Cluff" <brian@snaptek.com>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:40 PM
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] It's not as bad as we have been told
> 
> 
> > I just got off the from with a guy named Brad that is
affiliated with
> > the State trust land managment.  He is currently in possession
of the
> > "Sign from the past III" cache that was taken.
> > The conversation that we had was very positive and he really
likes
> the
> > idea of geocaching and actually wants to promote it, to the
point
> that
> > he wished that he could donate money to geocaching.
> > The only thing that he asks is that everyone gets a permit
before
> > entering the last (which we should already know) that they we
don't
> put
> > caches on archeology sites.  If caches are put on any
archeolory site
> > they will be confiscated and the owner will have a month to
pick it
> up.
> > He personally isn't pointing a finger at geocaching for any
damage to
> > the above site, since he doesn't know for sure that we did or
would
> do
> > any damage to any site.... (very cool!)
> > For caches that might be put on an archeology site that we
don't even
> > know that it's an archeology site they will check things out
and if
> it's
> > just near a site and we aren't causeing any damage they will
probably
> > just leave it there, since it could be better to keep the site a
> secret
> > than to let us know it exists by taking the cache.
> > All in all, it sounds like the news paper blew things waaaaaay
out of
> > proportion and gave us a bad name in doing so.
> >
> > Anyway, I just wanted to let people know of the situation in
reality.
> > Plus he asked me to pass on their rules that they would like us
to
> > observe... so pretty much what it amounts to is caches as usual
> minus a
> > couple of caches that point out some history, but all in all
good
> news.
> >
> > Brian Cluff
> > Team Snaptek
> >
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