[Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)

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 hmmm did not think about that...but guess that would be true ...hell it =
will move up in the ranking and everyone one else down....aren't stats =
just so subjective....

 but that not why....I just do not want the influx of people this =
weekend trashing my caches..just hope I got them hidden in time



Libby
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)


  Libby you just did that so Wyle can get credit for reaching 500 =
Arizona Finds again.

  Team Sand Dollar
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    Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 6:45 PM
    Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)


     Just so you are not taken by surprise tomorrow when you look at =
your stats.. I have made a lot of my caches member only today..... so if =
you have some on your to-do list do not delete the waypoint since they =
will not be there=20

    I will make them public again when this blows over


    Libby

    We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
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      From: Bob Renner=20
      To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
      Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:10 AM
      Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)


      I found the newspaper article very one sided and blown
      way out of proportion.  I think it was written with
      the intent of grabbing attention and selling papers
      and not with the intent of providing true and accurate
      information.

      It did not mention if any of the archeologic sites
      were open to the public such as Libby's Casa Grande
      Ruins cache or Ken's A Sign From The Past IV cache at
      Sears-Kay ruins near Seven Springs.  If those are any
      of the 18 caches at or near archeologic sites, then
      the article is blatently misleading.=20

      There was no mention of the Cache-In, Trash-Out
      program and the good it has done at many cache sites.

      One other thing that wasn't mentioned is the fact that
      there are numerous other sources of information about
      archeological sites that can be used by those intent
      on plundering.  A quick search found the following
      books available at Amazon.com that most likely mention
      remote sites.

      1. Ancient Treasures of the Southwest: A Guide to
      Archeological Sites and Museums in Arizona, Southern
      Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah, by Franklin Folsom,
      Mary Elting Folsom (Contributor), Rachel Folsom
      (Illustrator)

      2. Ancient Ruins of the Southwest: An Archaeological
      Guide by David Grant Noble (Photographer), Brad Melton
      (Editor)

      3. The Archaeology of Ancient Arizona by James
      Jefferson Reid, Stephanie Whittlesey, Jefferson Reid

      And finally, there are companies that provide tours of
      Arizona's backcountry and point out such sites. =20

      http://www.pinkjeep.com/
      "History enthusiasts will be awed by the opportunity
      to visit Authentic Native American Ruin sites, a very
      unique Sedona tour."


      http://www.archaeologicadventures.com/=20
      "We offer our guests the unique opportunity to probe
      the mysteries of the past, to touch history and feel
      it come alive while participating in a hands-on
      working field program to map and record unexplored
      archaeological sites."

      Bob Renner

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;hmmm did not think about =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Libby you just did that so Wyle can =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team Sand Dollar</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;Just so you are not taken by =
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    tomorrow when you look at your stats.. I have made a lot of my =
caches member=20
    only today..... so if you have some on your to-do list do not delete =
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    waypoint since they will not be there </FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will make them public again when =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Libby</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV><BR></DIV>I found the newspaper article very one sided and=20
      blown<BR>way out of proportion.&nbsp; I think it was written =
with<BR>the=20
      intent of grabbing attention and selling papers<BR>and not with =
the intent=20
      of providing true and accurate<BR>information.<BR><BR>It did not =
mention=20
      if any of the archeologic sites<BR>were open to the public such as =
Libby's=20
      Casa Grande<BR>Ruins cache or Ken's A Sign From The Past IV cache=20
      at<BR>Sears-Kay ruins near Seven Springs.&nbsp; If those are =
any<BR>of the=20
      18 caches at or near archeologic sites, then<BR>the article is =
blatently=20
      misleading. <BR><BR>There was no mention of the Cache-In,=20
      Trash-Out<BR>program and the good it has done at many cache=20
      sites.<BR><BR>One other thing that wasn't mentioned is the fact=20
      that<BR>there are numerous other sources of information=20
      about<BR>archeological sites that can be used by those =
intent<BR>on=20
      plundering.&nbsp; A quick search found the following<BR>books =
available at=20
      Amazon.com that most likely mention<BR>remote sites.<BR><BR>1. =
Ancient=20
      Treasures of the Southwest: A Guide to<BR>Archeological Sites and =
Museums=20
      in Arizona, Southern<BR>Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah, by =
Franklin=20
      Folsom,<BR>Mary Elting Folsom (Contributor), Rachel=20
      Folsom<BR>(Illustrator)<BR><BR>2. Ancient Ruins of the Southwest: =
An=20
      Archaeological<BR>Guide by David Grant Noble (Photographer), Brad=20
      Melton<BR>(Editor)<BR><BR>3. The Archaeology of Ancient Arizona by =

      James<BR>Jefferson Reid, Stephanie Whittlesey, Jefferson =
Reid<BR><BR>And=20
      finally, there are companies that provide tours of<BR>Arizona's=20
      backcountry and point out such sites.&nbsp; <BR><BR><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.pinkjeep.com/">http://www.pinkjeep.com/</A><BR>"Histor=
y=20
      enthusiasts will be awed by the opportunity<BR>to visit Authentic =
Native=20
      American Ruin sites, a very<BR>unique Sedona tour."<BR><BR><BR><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.archaeologicadventures.com/">http://www.archaeologicad=
ventures.com/</A>=20
      <BR>"We offer our guests the unique opportunity to probe<BR>the =
mysteries=20
      of the past, to touch history and feel<BR>it come alive while=20
      participating in a hands-on<BR>working field program to map and =
record=20
      unexplored<BR>archaeological sites."<BR><BR>Bob=20
      =
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